TomServo69
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Post by TomServo69 on May 19, 2007 21:40:27 GMT -5
I know, in fact, I've owned Blonde On Blonde and Highway 61 for years. I just don't know man, the way I'm writing now, I've just gained a huge amount of respect for him lately as a writer and his vocal ability has been opened to me now cause I've realized, the things I've been writing lately have been in that vein.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on May 19, 2007 21:44:31 GMT -5
This thread has given me reason to live. Expect more.
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Post by TomServo69 on May 19, 2007 21:51:07 GMT -5
I also recently downloaded the infamous "Dylan goes electric" Newport show. The sounds a little rough to me on the electric tracks, but, the acoustic reprise towards the end holds it together. A little rough as I said on the electric tracks, but, the crowd reaction still gets to me. I can't imagine how he felt getting that sort of response from his fans and then getting usual reaction from the acoustic numbers. God, I wish I was old enough to have witnessed all of that.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on May 19, 2007 21:56:52 GMT -5
Oh man I love those electric tracks. Definitely not smooth Steely Dan type rock. It's raw and dangerous and you just feel like something is happening. TS, you might want to hear the "Royal Albert Hall" show. (The title is a misnomer, not important now) It was the "Dylan Goes Electric" UK tour that followed Newport. It has a stunning acoustic set and a raucous electric set with The Band.that's on the edge. Highly recommended.
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Post by TomServo69 on May 19, 2007 21:59:42 GMT -5
Yeah, I also love the electric tracks, it just disapoints me when I hear the crowd reaction to them. I know they weren't expecting it, it just pisses me off to hear that mixed reaction and then when he came back out for the acoustic set, everyone's fine. But, I will check out that Royal Albert Hall show. Is it on CD or DVD? Or is it like a bootleg of sorts?
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Post by Broadsword on May 19, 2007 22:00:01 GMT -5
Bob Dylan is the single most influential American artist in contemporary music. And no, I'm not going to add my usual IMHO - It's a fact. And he touched artists from all styles of music. From a kid weened on the blues in Seattle, to 4 lads from Liverpool, to a psychedelic garage band in Texas. You might want to ad Elvis also, his influence is incredible also. Its as if Elvis brought the look and the style of early Rock and Roll . Dylan gave a voice to it. What can be said that hasn't been said millions times before. He was then best song write period. My favorite albums of his is Blood on the Tracks words can not describe how good that album is. My favorite song is A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall from the great album The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on May 19, 2007 22:10:34 GMT -5
. But, I will check out that Royal Albert Hall show. Is it on CD or DVD? Or is it like a bootleg of sorts? Servo Columbia has released a series of CDs called "The Bootleg Series"and "Royal Albert Hall" (really Manchester) is one of them. The show was bootleged for years before it was officially released. In fact this show made it into MST. In Devil Doll when they are watching the Hypnotist's act Servo says "And we could have seen Dylan at Albert Hall." That tells me that Kevin (or whoever wrote the line) knew about the bootleg.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on May 19, 2007 22:16:44 GMT -5
You might want to ad Elvis also, his influence is incredible also. Its as if Elvis brought the look and the style of early Rock and Roll . Testify brother.
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Post by TomServo69 on May 19, 2007 22:22:32 GMT -5
Cool Phantom, I'll have to look for those. Thanks for the info.
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Post by Mr. Atari on May 20, 2007 0:44:18 GMT -5
You might want to ad Elvis also, his influence is incredible also. Its as if Elvis brought the look and the style of early Rock and Roll . Testify brother. Now that I can get behind. After a thorough search on iTunes, the Dylan song I mentioned that I really like is called "Wigwam", from his Self-Portrait album. Apparently, even Dylan fans don't seem to like that album very much. I'd like to be a convert like TS69. But my perusal through the iTunes library didn't do it. I even tried the "Basement Tapes", "Highway 61 Revisited", and "Bringing it all Back Home" (I've owned "The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan" and "Blonde on Blonde" in the past). In all seriousness and open-mindedness, what am I missing? I don't want to bash the guy anymore. I want to appreciate him. If anyone can show me how, I would think it would be you guys. Please help.
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Post by Shep on May 20, 2007 7:14:49 GMT -5
"Tangled Up In Blue" and "Positively 4th Street" are two of my favorite songs ever.
Also really liked Dylan's soundtrack for "Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid."
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Post by Phantom Engineer on May 20, 2007 8:19:16 GMT -5
In all seriousness and open-mindedness, what am I missing? I don't want to bash the guy anymore. I want to appreciate him. If anyone can show me how, I would think it would be you guys. Please help. My only comment on that is if you don't like his music, don't try to. No one can really tell you what you're missing, if you don't like it you just don't like it. Personally I have no interest in trying to sway you. To thine self be true!And later I'll have to rant about Self Portrait.
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Post by mightyjack on May 20, 2007 10:25:38 GMT -5
My children, my precious children. I am weeping tears of joy - This is truly the most beautiful thread ever.
You see, it's not the differences of opinion I'm trying to avoid, it's the anger and personal insults. And to see us all playing nice like this...
Well damn it, We can have nice things after all!
Thank you, I know it'll only be this one time, but I think having a spot (I'm on Gool?) to just bask in the glow isn't so bad is it?
I just got John Wesley Harding in from Amazon last night. I haven't heard this in, oh 10, 15 years, at my Uncles (My needle broke and I haven't heard one of my LPs in years)
It is still as great as I remembered it. Very mellow, Bob seems reflective.The man sure had a great string there, just one excellent record after another.
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Post by mightyjack on May 20, 2007 10:29:48 GMT -5
In all seriousness and open-mindedness, what am I missing? I don't want to bash the guy anymore. I want to appreciate him. If anyone can show me how, I would think it would be you guys. Please help. My only comment on that is if you don't like his music, don't try to. No one can really tell you what you're missing, if you don't like it you just don't like it. Personally I have no interest in trying to sway you. To thine self be true!And later I'll have to rant about Self Portrait. Yup, what phantom says. Sometimes it just doesn't click. If I told you some of the "great" artists I didn't care for, it might make you lose all respect for me. lol (Too late for that, right) But out of curiosity, what is it that doesn't work? I can understand style, not being into Folk music, I can even understand someone not digging the voice. But what about the lyrics? I know he can get silly and stretch a rhyme, but he's written some beautiful lines. "Tangled up in Blue" is such a great an example of sharp, poigniant storytelling (IMHO). It's like listening to a movie or book. You hear these folks sad love story and I find it more real and touching than most love stories I see in a Hollywood flick.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on May 20, 2007 14:10:52 GMT -5
I just got John Wesley Harding in from Amazon last night. I haven't heard this in, oh 10, 15 years, at my Uncles (My needle broke and I haven't heard one of my LPs in years) I love that album. I just wish the harmonica wasn't so shrill. He seems to be playing in the high register too much. In fact a lot of the songs are capoed and played higher up the neck. It has been suggested that it was kept sparse because the plan was for The Band to overdub the tracks. I'm not sure if that's really true.
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