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Post by Waldo Jeffers on Apr 28, 2007 16:55:36 GMT -5
I like the Band of Gypsies album the most, definately more R&B stuff. Buddy Miles had some really good song contributions on it, too.
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Post by robbikkins on Apr 29, 2007 14:17:51 GMT -5
HAHA! Master of Guitar MY A$$... ok.. so pretty much the guitarists from dragonforce COMPLETELY DOMINATE jimi hendrix.. you guys dont even know.. go listen on their myspace to the song "Through the Fire and Flames" the guitar solos make jimi's seem like little children beating a guitar with drumsticks.. sorry for all of you.. he was a great man for STARTING the rapid incline of this style of this style of music.. but he is nowhere near the best...
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Post by mightyjack on Apr 29, 2007 14:30:24 GMT -5
Nice first post. Uhh, Mr. Troll, sir, you see, this is an appreciation.
So uh, go away. Shoo, shoo!
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Post by Hugh Beaumont on Apr 29, 2007 22:46:04 GMT -5
It's never a favorable sign when your first post on a message board is you calling Jimi Hendrix a hack.
Hey, everyone, join me in pointing and laughing. It's fun.
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Post by mummifiedstalin on Apr 29, 2007 23:54:02 GMT -5
Even if that fool had a point, he has no idea how to phrase it in a way that would actually make anyone pay attention to him.
It's ashame how the internet kills communication skills. That poor sprat will one day choke on his own obscurity, despite any inherent intelligence that his foolish inability to speak coherently might have long ago drowned.
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Post by mightyjack on Apr 30, 2007 12:23:41 GMT -5
Both of you made excellent points, and expressed them clearly. Even a speed demon like Steve Vai will tell you, that all the speed in the world means nothing if you got no soul. Guys like Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughan, learned at the feet of a master like Robert Johnson and all who came after him. There's an intangible element at play; which is why I feel that no one can ever say definitively, who's the greatest. There are uber fast guitar mechanics, who play like machines. But a great guitarist breathes life into the instrument, makes it cry, makes it sigh... I've been watching Jimi's concerts on DVD and they were night and day. Blue Wild Angel was the artist battling with his muse. There was nothing technically wrong with the performances, but it lacks that vibe. You could see it in his face as he tried to will that vibe into life. It would come and go, but just wasn't happening and at the end, Hendrix simply drops his guitar and walks off in disgust. But in Jimi plays Berkley it's a completely different story. His voice is raw and cracks often. But there is so much life; he plays with ease and is obviously in the groove. The audience can feel it and feeds that groove (I loved the young lady in the front row. She was feeling it) An example can be found with "Machine Gun" - In BWA, there's an anger in the song, it hits you like a jackhammer. It's a good performance, but the tension is palpable. Jimi's attacking each note. In the Berkley performance though, the song is pure magic. It goes from angry to mournful and here's that intangible -and if you don't get this, then you don't get what it means to be a great ax-man- Jimi's playing is as expressive and tells the story of the tune as much, if not better, than the vocals and lyrics.If you can make a guitar tell a story like that, then your a master. Period. I'd highly recommend checking out the Berkly concert. If for nothing else than to see his energetic rendition of "Johny B Good". The only negative? Jimi plays so often, 2 shows a night, that the concerts are always short. I don't know if they filmed the second show or not (an audio only version of that concert is included), if not, that's too bad as he played several different tunes, and after listening to several different versions of "Machine Gun", I hear Jimi bringing something new and fresh in each. Great concert. As for "Blue Angel", well, you can skip it, unless your curious to see what it's like when an artist excels technically, but struggles to get into that intangible groove.
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Post by Mr. Atari on Apr 30, 2007 12:48:06 GMT -5
I appreciate Jimi.
I have nothing bad to say about him. Great riffs, classic songs, and so much good playing.
I went through a Jimi phase my sophomore year in high school. He's all I listened to for about 6 months.
Now, I won't turn it off if he comes on my iPod, but I don't really seek out one of his tracks all that much. In fact, I have come to prefer some covers of his stuff to the originals.
Some great ones: Living Colour's "Burning of the Midnight Lamp" Sting & John MacLaughlin's "Wind Cries Mary" (Sting also did a KILLER version of "Purple Haze" live) King's X's "Manic Depression" Stevie Ray Vaughan's "Voodoo Chile" and "Little Wing"
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Post by mightyjack on May 2, 2007 5:17:43 GMT -5
I found an interesting write up on the fabled "Black Gold" project... members.tripod.com/~Wallyrus/blackgold.htmlIf this was the lineup, then I imagine Astro Man, Drifting and Steeping Stone wouldn't have made it to the 4th LP (New Rising Sun) - It's too bad the Velvet Room song was cut off before completion Finished with that book "Room Full of Mirrors". The man was constantly recording, and there's a lot of rough material out there. Sadly, he really was coming apart at the seams at the end. Even if he hadn't accidentally died from the sleeping pills, he was heading down that road and -unless he had cockroach like abilities like Keith Richards- probably would have OD sooner or later. Mr. A, I checked out a few of those. I'm not a fan of either X or Colour, and didn't like Colours version in the least. But Kings X did a good version of Manic Depression. Though I don't feel surpassed the original. Interesting to hear 'em though.
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Post by Mr. Atari on May 2, 2007 12:46:35 GMT -5
Mr. A, I checked out a few of those. I'm not a fan of either X or Colour, and didn't like Colours version in the least. But Kings X did a good version of Manic Depression. Though I don't feel surpassed the original. Interesting to hear 'em though. I know I talk about King's X a lot (I know Phantom's sick of it ), but I'm surprised that you don't like them. Especially since they basically based their sound on "John Lennon meets Jimi Hendrix". Admittedly, they're songwriting isn't indicative of that, but their sound is. As for Jimi, "Fire" came on my iPod yesterday and I was very glad it did.
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Post by Hoss Ragen on May 2, 2007 13:15:07 GMT -5
I skimmed over this thread so I don't know if it was mentioned or not, but Hendrix' pre- Are You Experienced stuff has been bootlegged since the late 60's up until the late 80's. There's at least a couple dozen out there and I would imagine someone would have compiled (going to...) them all by now, providing there's not too much Reprise/Warner legal stuff in the way. I only have one called The Genius Of Jimi Hendrix with a really cool song called "Lime Lime" where Mitch Mitchell just rips it. Too bad the cover is flimsy, recycled cereal box cardboard and the vinyl sounds a little like it was made out of dog biscuits and used tires. There's also an early version of "Stone Free" ('59) on 45, which is quite rare. Hendrix also worked with a man by the name of Curtis Knight and released a couple of LPs ( Get That Feeling on Capitol and another one on Paramount). As for Hendrix covers, there are a slew of them, but very few are actually worth hearing, let alone ones that rival the original. I really like this one… The jazz musician and arranger “turns on” and does covers with trombones, electric piano and all sorts of crazy, groovy stuff. RCA reissued it onto CD. It’s available on Amazon. This is from a Los Angeles based session band associated with Mike Curb, who went psychedelic as well, as all us MSTies who are into the biker flicks know and appreciate. Not available on CD (I think), but I have a clean copy I can rip for anyone interested
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Post by donmac on May 2, 2007 19:12:35 GMT -5
I've been a Hendrix fan since my teen years (which were long enough ago, I own all of his albums in LP form) and have been getting back into his music again recently. One CD Boxed Set that impressed me is called simply The Jimi Hendrix Experience that was released in 2000: What I like about this album is it has a lot of alternate takes and live performances I had never heard before. (I never thought the performance of "Killing Floor" by Hendrix at Monterey Pop could be topped... until I heard his 1966 Paris performance found in this Boxed Set!)
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Post by mightyjack on May 3, 2007 3:03:54 GMT -5
Oh I'd love to have that Don. If Killing Floor surpasses Monterey that would be amazing to hear! (I listened to some of the samples. It's fun to hear what they were saying on "Third Stone" before they slowed it down. And now that I hear Cherokee Mist, I can see why it wasn't included on the "Rising Sun" album, even though Jimi listed it on the one track listing he wrote. It sounds like he used the ideas for that ,and turned it into the song "Into the Storm") Hoss - Thanks for the info. I wasn't familiar with Lime, Lime. I found a quick sample here (scroll till you find Groove maker Artist Direct. I've heard some of the Curtis Knight stuff you have to be carefull with, there are some fakes he's tried to pass off. Mr. A - I don't hear Lennon in their sound, but aside from that - I'm weird. If I told you every band that I should like -have been told "If you like this you'll love that"- and didn't. It would make your hair stand on end. I stopped making sense a long time ago I think
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Post by mightyjack on May 4, 2007 12:22:10 GMT -5
It was payday and I found a copy of the newest Woodstock DVD dirt cheap.
In recent years trashing this performance has been the thing to do. Not really fair as while it's not the best I've seen on DVD (That would be Berkley and Monterey), it's far from the worst (Isle of Wight).
Yes, the group was under rehersed, Larry Lee was out of his element (out of tune and off tempo at times), heck even Cox fell off the path a few times.
In mid show it's the roughest. Hendrix's guitar goes out of tune at the end of Red House (and he puts on a pained look as it finishes). At one point he seems to lose interest and sing flatly - Lee gets lost during one of his solos and Jimi's always looking in his direction, trying to direct the poor man (To be fair, Larry had been out of the music loop for a long time, and Hendrix really didn't need a rhythm guitar, as he was an army of one anyways). During Fire he seems upset with both Cox and Lee throughout and at the end shoots them a look that would have melted the polar ice caps.
But overall, despite the band not being tight, Jimi rocks and Mitch and he always worked well together. The concert opens strong with Message to Love (or was that, "...of Love" -or- "...to the Universe".... he changed the title all the time), "Hear a Train a commin" etc. And closed well with that amazing rendition of the Star Spangled Banner and Purple Haze (though at the start the guitar sound once again, out of tune)
Extras include some rare black and white footage, a press conference with Hendrix and some remembrances by engineer Kramer.
Solid disc, well worth the price (about half of what I saw it for at Best Buy).
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Post by Phantom Engineer on May 13, 2007 21:28:07 GMT -5
I just watched the Classic Albums Electric Ladyland DVD. It was quite good. A lot of interviews of the principle people and background information of a lot of the songs. I love this rock history stuff when it's done well.
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Post by (busdrivertohell) on May 14, 2007 19:45:13 GMT -5
The man made me proud to be a lefty guitarist. I learned most of my playing from strumming and picking on righty guitars... only recently have I gotten a lefty.
Ah have you ever been experienced? Well, I haaaaavveeeee...
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