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Post by Bix Dugan on Oct 25, 2007 17:17:38 GMT -5
I'm 45, and I don't even listen to music on the radio today. I've turned to talk radio, mostly Howard on Sirius. But today's music won't even compare to the early 80s music-video bands. When you say RadioHead to me, thats a song by Talking Heads. And Nickelback is my change tendered at the donut shop.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Oct 25, 2007 17:39:46 GMT -5
But today's music won't even compare to the early 80s music-video bands. When you say RadioHead to me, thats a song by Talking Heads. And Nickelback is my change tendered at the donut shop. Sir, I admire your curmudgeoness.
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Post by CBG on Oct 25, 2007 17:41:39 GMT -5
But today's music won't even compare to the early 80s music-video bands. When you say RadioHead to me, thats a song by Talking Heads. And Nickelback is my change tendered at the donut shop. HERE HERE, BIX!!
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Post by Mr. Atari on Oct 25, 2007 18:23:46 GMT -5
I also applaud your curmudgeonness. But not your use of Radiohead as an example (except in that it makes the Talking Heads joke work). "OK Computer" really is a classic album.
Back to the earlier posts in this thread...
I would like to publicly acknowledge that thanks to this thread, I have a new favorite album that belongs in my album thread:
Absolution by Muse is really amazing. I can't deny nor ignore how derivative these guys are, but the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. And the way they so seamlessly move between Radiohead's emo-arrangements, the Foo Fighters' chunky anger, Dream Theater's percussive complexity, and the Beatles' hypnotic chord moves is quite compelling. Mrs. Atari said she heard some Jeff Buckley in there, too.
Basically, if you took all of my favorite bands and put them in a blender, you'd get a tall glass of Muse.
That being said, I found "Black Holes and Revelations" to be far less satisfying, making me wonder if I actually like the band, or just that one album.
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Post by Trumpy's Magic Snout on Oct 25, 2007 20:02:41 GMT -5
Absolution is definitely their best.
And good shout Mrs. Atari on Jeff Buckley. Big influence that I completely forgot!
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Post by hopesfall on Oct 26, 2007 6:09:15 GMT -5
So, reading through these music threads, I've noticed one thing; most of you guys seem to only know about what's readily available on the radio or TV. Not saying everyone, but that's what I get from the majority of the bands mentioned. Muse? My Chemical Romance? GREEN DAY? Holy crap. Whoever said "Green Day has balls" or whatever, shut the TV off and go listen to some REAL bands with "unpopular opinions." I'd mention a few, but from experience I've noticed my recommendations tend to be ignored. That being said, I admit that I do listen to (very few) "bigger" bands that you might catch on the radio. Coheed and Cambria being one example, because they are all around an excellent band, even though they're largely ignored.
This decade is an absolute joke for music if you're looking at the "mainstream." However, there are many amazing bands out there that neither I, nor their small fan bases will forget anytime soon.
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Post by Father Mannix on Oct 26, 2007 10:37:56 GMT -5
This decade is an absolute joke for music if you're looking at the "mainstream." However, there are many amazing bands out there that neither I, nor their small fan bases will forget anytime soon. Agreed.
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Post by Mr. Atari on Oct 26, 2007 15:37:48 GMT -5
So, reading through these music threads, I've noticed one thing; most of you guys seem to only know about what's readily available on the radio or TV. Not saying everyone, but that's what I get from the majority of the bands mentioned. Muse? My Chemical Romance? GREEN DAY? Holy crap. Whoever said "Green Day has balls" or whatever, shut the TV off and go listen to some REAL bands with "unpopular opinions." I'd mention a few, but from experience I've noticed my recommendations tend to be ignored. That being said, I admit that I do listen to (very few) "bigger" bands that you might catch on the radio. Coheed and Cambria being one example, because they are all around an excellent band, even though they're largely ignored. This decade is an absolute joke for music if you're looking at the "mainstream." However, there are many amazing bands out there that neither I, nor their small fan bases will forget anytime soon. While I agree with you in principle (and especially about Green Day), I don't think something has to be obscure to be good. Additionally, some of these "readily available" bands are obscure to old folks like me phantom. I haven't been in high school in 15 years, and I haven't listened to the radio since 1988. So thanks to threads like these I'm discovering some of the good mainstream bands that I'd otherwise never know about. But I hope we're also an open-minded lot, willing to discover good unknown bands, too. At least I am. So recommend away.
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Post by angilasman on Oct 26, 2007 19:18:48 GMT -5
I've certainly never heard Muse on normal radio (I hear them on sattelite radio often) and the only time I've seen them on TV is when I woke up at 3 am, channel surfed, and saw the Knights of Cydonia music video.
Their worlds ahead of Green Day and My Chemical Romance. How would you even compare them?
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Post by Pierre Trudeau on Oct 26, 2007 20:54:55 GMT -5
Yeah I'm slightly offended too, although other's opinions register low on my radar. But that's like comparing a pile of poopie to a ruby.
Coheed and Cambria are much more popular than Muse. Perhaps we just move in different circles but... Coheed are much more popular than Muse...
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Post by hopesfall on Oct 27, 2007 16:34:04 GMT -5
Like I said, I do like a few "popular" bands. Coheed and Cambira being the prime example. The difference between a band like them and a band like Muse is that Coheed is very unique in both the musical and lyrical department. They have an unmistakable sound, and Claudio Sanchez's voice is something that simply cannot be duplicated, or even imitated. Not to offend anyone, but to me, Muse is nothing more than a boring soft rock band with scarfs and the occasional 5 o' clock shadow. It's been done to death. I'm not saying there's a problem with liking them, I just wish more people would go search for music on their own, because there are so many amazing bands out there to discover.
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Post by angilasman on Oct 27, 2007 19:38:59 GMT -5
.......okay, well, I don't like Coheed and Cambria at all so we're even.
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Post by Trumpy's Magic Snout on Oct 27, 2007 22:35:43 GMT -5
Muse are actually massive over here in Britain. A bit of a shock really as they do at least try to experiment. You want some obscure good stuff from this decade try these:
Chris Clark Panda Bear Battles Lavender Diamond Richard Swift Patrick Wolf Maps BC Camplight The Tuss Tiny Dancers The National 65daysofstatic Menomena The Besnard Lakes The Earlies The Twilight Sad Justice Ceephax Boris Pop Levi Apparat A Sunny Day In Glasgow Vietnam Okkervil River Caribou Lucky Soul Jens Lekman The Go! Team A Place To Bury Strangers Miracle Fortress M83 Helios Band Of Horses
And most of them released debuts in the last 2/3 years, most this year. A very wide range of music. There are many more but I can't be bothered listing them. The problem is, to go back to the original question of the thread, none of them will be like the Stones or Beatles in terms of status. Does that make their music bad? No. There's some genuinely exciting stuff in that list but it won't even end up like The Velvet Underground, ignored on release, championed decades later. I'll remember most of it, like the way I'll remember the first time I heard Radiohead, The Flaming Lips, Manic Street Preachers, Stars Of The Lid or Aphex Twin. Maybe none of them will take as special a place in my heart as those, it's too early to tell, but I'll remember these times because they soundtracked them.
Hopesfall, I think your major beef appears to be that no one shares your taste, not that everything labelled on the thread is too commercial, although Green Day really are total balls so with you on that. I have the same problem as I don't think there are many if any on the board who enjoy electronic music to the extremity I do. While enjoying pretty much every type of music imaginable I have attempted to devour the entire history of electronic, something I find out every day to be failing. Even in this field where originality is meant to be a given things have become pretty stagnant shamefully. You're argument that this decade has been poor is perhaps true to an extent but more because of a lack of originality than quality music.
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Post by Pierre Trudeau on Oct 28, 2007 0:00:17 GMT -5
I love electronic music... in fact I haven't really said much about my tastes beyond Muse.
For someone to say Muse is boring soft rock... that's ridiculous! I'm fine with other's opinions but... it's a fact, Muse aren't "soft rock." You don't go away from every concert not being able to hear well for two days afterward if it's soft rock.
Enough about Muse...
Battles are awesome. Ratatat, M83, LCD Soundsystem- all awesome bands. But the point of this thread isn't about sweet assed awesome spectacular bands, but bands that people are gonna look back at and think- oh, that says "2000s" all over it.
AKA- Aha screams 80s. Nirvana screams 90s.
That sort of thing.
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Post by Krista on Oct 28, 2007 1:09:02 GMT -5
Just a comment on the Green Day having an unpopular opinion:
Well, I don't think they do. There are countless bands and singers voicing the same opinion, and basically all of Hollywood. That is if you mean the "war on terrorism" or Bush and that sort of stuff.
I'm not against 'em or anything or anyone that wants to listen to them though. I like a few of their older songs.
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