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Post by KyrieEleison on Sept 24, 2007 20:48:36 GMT -5
And now I must stay out of this thread until I finish my papers. I will see you Thursday.
Darn the fact that I have to wait 'til Thursday to see it... not cool at all.
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Post by wilson on Sept 24, 2007 20:59:09 GMT -5
I can say that, so far, two of my biggest questions have been answered, regarding: - Nathan Petrelli - The casting for Takezo Kensei yeah ? and these answered questions were .... ?
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Post by Diet Kolos on Sept 24, 2007 21:04:02 GMT -5
Boy that was really...unremarkable.
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Sept 24, 2007 21:04:35 GMT -5
SPOILERS!(duh!)
Alright, some okay stuff and some very good stuff in this episode. I will break it up by subplot, I guess:
I didn't like the plot at Claire's new school all that much. I tend to dislike the show most when it steers closest to more generic teen drama, and that's what the cheerleading squads kind of lead to. I hope that the Bennet story doesn't become The Adventures of Average Family - it seemed that way for a bit, but looked like it was on its way up by the end.
I'm more interested in Hiro's time-travel plot now than I was at the end of the last season. Will Hiro become the true samurai hero that he idolized as a child?
The introduction of the two new characters, Maya and her brother (name?) was good. I'm really curious to find out what she can do.
Kaito Nakamura (Hiro's father) had a good subplot as well. I'm interested to see who showed up at the end, and if he'll be in more episodes.
I thought Molly and Matt's subplot showed a lot of promise. It will lead in well to the newer enemy character.
Finally, I was glad to see Nathan. My expectations for his character were pretty much on target. The end of the episode, with Peter's introduction, was great. I can't wait to see next week's episode.
Hope I haven't forgotten anything major!
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Sept 24, 2007 21:05:39 GMT -5
Boy that was really...unremarkable. Overall, I enjoyed it, but I had mixed feelings (as in above post). It seemed more like a middle-of-the-season episode than a brand spankin' new premiere.
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Post by wilson on Sept 24, 2007 21:15:55 GMT -5
I'm more interested in Hiro's time-travel plot now than I was at the end of the last season. Will Hiro become the true samurai hero that he idolized as a child?
The introduction of the two new characters, Maya and her brother (name?) was good. I'm really curious to find out what she can do.Hiro becomes his own Hero ? - expected , but will they pull a twist ? The Honduras twins ? -- I read today that their "power" works "in tandem" All in all , I had to relax & fight the "wave of expectation" from my own hype , and all the outer hype. Oh ! , and "The Company" has a King Midas powered member ?! coolness !
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Sept 24, 2007 21:23:44 GMT -5
Was the King Midas guy on at all last season? He really looked familiar, but I can't remember if it was from the show, or from something else. Edit: I can say that, so far, two of my biggest questions have been answered, regarding: - Nathan Petrelli - The casting for Takezo Kensei yeah ? and these answered questions were .... ? Earlier, I meant to ask whether Nathan could simply have dropped Peter at some point in the atmosphere and flown further away to save himself rather than dying, as implied by the finale. I forgot to ask it, though, so I never found out if anyone thought the same. As far as casting goes, I found out that the actor playing Takezo Kensei was a caucasian. I had no idea why he would play a samurai, and wondered if they would somehow try to pass him off as Japanese. I had a big laugh when his face was revealed.
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Post by wilson on Sept 24, 2007 21:28:16 GMT -5
Toblosky ? Not on Heroes previously. I chiefly remember him as the guy Bill Murray knocks off the sidewalk so many times in "Groundhog Day" ! but I think he's always been working since.
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Sept 24, 2007 21:29:29 GMT -5
Haha! That's exactly what I was trying to remember! How awesome is that? I haven't even seen that movie in at least three or four years.
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Post by wilson on Sept 24, 2007 21:30:46 GMT -5
Earlier, I meant to ask whether Nathan could simply have dropped Peter at some point in the atmosphere and flown further away to save himself rather than dying, as implied by the finale. I forgot to ask it, though, so I never found out if anyone thought the same. . I've sort'a been expecting the same. Who do we think Nathan saw in the mirror , all scarred up ? I assumed Peter , if it was himself.... well Nathan's nor known for regeneration !
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Post by wilson on Sept 24, 2007 21:31:53 GMT -5
Haha! That's exactly what I was trying to remember! How awesome is that? I haven't even seen that movie in at least three or four years. what ?...you don't get stuck in a loop watching it for 12 years while the world's on pause ?
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Sept 24, 2007 21:51:04 GMT -5
Who do we think Nathan saw in the mirror , all scarred up ? I assumed Peter , if it was himself.... well Nathan's nor known for regeneration ! My first thought was that it was himself. Unfortunately I couldn't rewind to get a better look! I'm fairly sure it wasn't him. I think Peter is the most likely possibility, and that it was just an invasive memory or something. What really threw me was the use of the mirror, which automatically made me think of Jessica/Niki, but I can't really imagine a scenario where it's anything but a memory.
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Post by wilson on Sept 24, 2007 21:56:21 GMT -5
I miss Issac ( Mr. Ee-Zak ! )
I mean , he fully played his part & his destiny seemed "correct", but it'll be strange w/out his paintings.
However ! - Peter and/or Sylar could still whip a "vision in oils" for us.
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Post by Diet Kolos on Sept 24, 2007 22:46:59 GMT -5
It still wasn't very good...for a season premiere, anyways.
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Post by wilson on Sept 24, 2007 23:27:59 GMT -5
It still wasn't very good...for a season premiere, anyways. The same as I thought the finale was fine n' great , I also think this premiere didn't need to follow expectations and be full of fireworks. We've had too many years of movies & shows wowing us where we've been trained to expect them to . The finale > Turns out on the scripted page , there were buses flying & more. But more then budget , there were too many character beats ( well doled-out ) to also incorporate too much "whizz-bang" ( it was my 2nd / DVD viewing of the finale that brought it together for me ). Season 2 debut > Still way too early to say . . they're "laying pipe' & balancing a lot. But the combined wave of my own buzz , & media attention ( plus ours too ) have me holding off on any clear take on it. I'd rather let an episode or two follow before any . . . . well I don't ever really grade things , so . . . ah ! the hell with this , it's too soon !
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