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Post by Blue Raja on Dec 15, 2009 22:53:05 GMT -5
This may be a little early, but when we upload our Excel files, should they be in 96-2003 format or is 2007 alright? I think either will be fine. I'm not an Excel expert or anything, but I've been able to open and "save as" many different Excel files so far. The computer I'm using is fairly new (a little over a year old), and Excel came with it. Take that as you will. Glad you caught that! I wouldn't worry about it too much if they'd simply said they'd "seen" it, but "SCREENED" is a much different verb. I'm with you on that one - I'm not sure how I feel either. I know I wouldn't feel like riffing it if I knew THEY were also. What do you guys think - should we wait out this Christmas season to see if they riff it or talk of riffing it before proceeding, or should we forge ahead regardless? I'm open for suggestions. Again, IF they do decide to officially jump on this movie, we can always shift over to "Killdozer!" We're flexible here.
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Post by callipygias on Dec 16, 2009 0:56:30 GMT -5
Might as well go ahead until we hear otherwise. Even if we don't end up doing Ice Cream Bunny it'll be good practice for those of us who've never done this before. Good God, after watching this one over and over Killdozer would be a breeze.
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Post by doctorz on Dec 16, 2009 9:29:08 GMT -5
I am not having any problems yet writing for it but that may just be me. I read the interview and what I got out of the interview is that they have just recently viewed it. Seems to have made a major impression on Mike! I wonder how much I had to do with that. Back a few years ago at the Denver get together, I brought Santa and the Ice Cream Bunny to the event so we could have some fun riffing it in an informal way in my hotel room. M.J. attended our little get together. I did send a copy of the movie to M.J. at her request since she was curious about it after she heard us talking about the movie (she did not attend the riffing party). I know she watched it because she wrote me back damning me for exposing her to it! (true story!) She may have told Mike about it but I'll never know. I know I and others have posted at the RiffTrax site begging them to do a Trax of the movie so I'm sure they picked up on this movie somewhere. Either fans raving about it or the Agony Booth review of it may have clued them in. It would be neat if I had a small part to play in exposing this movie to Rifftrax, but, like I said, I'll probably never know. I think there are some real problems with RiffTrax doing a Trax for this movie. I'm not sure it's in the public domain and if Rifftrax did this Trax they are going to have to offer it as a VOD release. It is not available on DVD nor does it have any real notoriety except among us cult fanatics. I'd personally love to see them do it, but I doubt it. Even if they do, I think we should still forge ahead with our R.I.F.F. version. I personally am enjoying the hard work of having to write jokes for this movie. It makes me appreciate and respect what their writers have done for years. My hat's off to them!
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Post by dph on Dec 16, 2009 23:34:49 GMT -5
Even if they do, I think we should still forge ahead with our R.I.F.F. version. I personally am enjoying the hard work of having to write jokes for this movie. It makes me appreciate and respect what their writers have done for years. My hat's off to them! I totally agree. I just wrote jokes for the first ten minutes so far, and it took an hour and a half. I definitely have even more respect for the brains than I did before. But I am having fun with it as well.
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Post by Hellcat on Dec 17, 2009 0:48:46 GMT -5
I think Doctor Z makes a great point. The movie's lack of availability on DVD makes it difficult for the guys to do a Rifftrax for it (although it isn't a complete roadblock -- witness the Star Wars Holiday Special). It's possible that the guys heard about it and decided that they had to see this turkey for themselves, just for their own entertainment. But even if they do decide to take it on, I don't believe that we should stop our project. Our riff would be all our own, and that's what makes it so special. Also, it looks as though our people have already put in some solid work on it, and it would be a shame to toss that in the trash.
Doctor Z and dph: glad to hear that you're having fun with this! It's hard work, but it's also a great hobby.
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Post by Blue Raja on Dec 18, 2009 10:35:41 GMT -5
I guess its settled then - glad everyone still wants to go ahead with it! If Rifftrax even DOES decide to somehow riff this, it should just raise even more awareness for this film, which certainly can't hurt our "popularity" chances.
Hopefully I can get some time tonight (FOR ONCE) to work some more on this thing!
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Post by doctorz on Dec 18, 2009 11:28:42 GMT -5
I don't expect to get back to this until around December 29th. I just don't have the time.
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Post by dph on Dec 18, 2009 21:03:36 GMT -5
I think if I do it ten minutes at a time, I can get it done. I may give it another shot Sunday (Depending on how hungover I am from my graduation party tomorrow night).
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Post by Trumpy's Magic Snout on Dec 21, 2009 18:14:31 GMT -5
Got my copy from Sky. Going to sit down with it over Xmas and then subsequently gouge my eyes out at the horror.
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Post by dph on Dec 29, 2009 20:02:58 GMT -5
So, what's a good spacing between jokes?
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Post by doctorz on Dec 30, 2009 10:46:09 GMT -5
I don't really know. I'm just writing down jokes with the idea in mind of "first thought, best thought." and marking down the time code where I begin the joke. I'll leave the timing and what dialogue to dub over to whoever writes the script and the performers when they begin recording the Trax.
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Post by mrmeadows on Dec 30, 2009 11:47:11 GMT -5
I don't really know. I'm just writing down jokes with the idea in mind of "first thought, best thought." and marking down the time code where I begin the joke. I'll leave the timing and what dialogue to dub over to whoever writes the script and the performers when they begin recording the Trax. That's more or less what I'm doing. I'll also label "alternate riffs" to potentially be used during the same part of the movie, just to give them a choice of different riffs.
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Post by Blue Raja on Dec 30, 2009 13:27:01 GMT -5
So, what's a good spacing between jokes? Well, when we're actually RECORDING the riff, we tend to go by the mantra of "no more than 11 seconds between riffs," unless of course there's some important/mega-talky dialogue going on. That helps us to prevent too much dead air from happening. But as far as over-doing it, it really depends on the scene and how talky it is, but it's never a bad idea to let a joke sink in (roughly no less than 3 seconds) before moving on to the next one. Again, this is all when actually RECORDING. When it comes to writing your scripts, however, go nuts! We're picking and choosing from a bunch of different scripts, so don't worry too much about overlapping and whatnot. That'll be our department. That's a good question to ask, by the way - we had to find out all this stuff the hard way.
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Post by Hellcat on Dec 30, 2009 17:47:46 GMT -5
So, what's a good spacing between jokes? Well, when we're actually RECORDING the riff, we tend to go by the mantra of "no more than 11 seconds between riffs," unless of course there's some important/mega-talky dialogue going on. That helps us to prevent too much dead air from happening. But as far as over-doing it, it really depends on the scene and how talky it is, but it's never a bad idea to let a joke sink in (roughly no less than 3 seconds) before moving on to the next one. Again, this is all when actually RECORDING. When it comes to writing your scripts, however, go nuts! We're picking and choosing from a bunch of different scripts, so don't worry too much about overlapping and whatnot. That'll be our department. That's a good question to ask, by the way - we had to find out all this stuff the hard way. Yep, good old trial and error. I have found that writing riffs does get easier with practice. You develop an ear for what sounds funny, and how the word flow should go. But if Mike or Joel or any of the MST crew ever decide to publish a pamphlet entitled "How To Riff", I know I'd buy a copy. For me, the writing process is always evolving. One thing that I have found helpful is this: when I get a decent collection of jokes together (say about 100), I like to print out the script, complete with time codes, and then watch the movie, reading my jokes out loud at the appropriate cues. It gives me a good sense of the timing and of how the jokes sound. As for spacing, I agree with Raja: don't worry too much about overlapping. If you like two (or more) jokes for the same spot, include them all. We'll sort it out.
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Post by Blue Raja on Feb 25, 2010 20:08:27 GMT -5
^Words of wisdom there! So guys, how's it coming along so far? Any jokes we're proud or ashamed of? Questions of any kind for we project spearheaders? Any particular parts of the movie giving you an especially hard time, or is it just the entire movie destroying every molecule of your will to live? Or simply any observations you may have? (Perhaps it'll spark a joke idea somewhere!) Me, I just found it very....interesting....that Thumbelina wore the same outfit that she was born with for the entire duration of the movie. Not that clothes-washing is compelling cinema or anything, but it sure would put my mind at ease as far as her BO level is concerned.
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