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Post by callipygias on Apr 3, 2010 11:18:01 GMT -5
The 50 Ugliest Moments in Sports.I think this is the first time Comcast Sports did a countdown that I read the whole way through. Some really interesting entries, and not all of them are from the last 20 or 30 years, which is good. With all the modern Rosie Ruiz fame it was pretty cool to see that Fred Lorz tried a similar thing back in 1904, and at the actual Olympics. It's pretty amazing to learn what athletes are still doing. I can't believe boxers are still sticking horse shoes in their gloves, basically. Now it's Plaster of Paris.
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Post by mrcleveland on Apr 3, 2010 18:12:40 GMT -5
No Cleveland Moments? Cleveland should be on that list! We had The Drive, The Fumble, The Red-Right 88, The Shot, The Collapse,...you name it, Cleveland's the ugliest Sports City with all their dramatic endings in the big games!
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Post by The Mad Plumber on Apr 3, 2010 18:20:47 GMT -5
I'm a little disappointed that that Don "Moose" Lewis character isn't in that list.
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Post by Mr. Atari on Apr 3, 2010 18:23:00 GMT -5
No Cleveland Moments? Cleveland should be on that list! We had The Drive, The Fumble, The Red-Right 88, The Shot, The Collapse,...you name it, Cleveland's the ugliest Sports City with all their dramatic endings in the big games! I don't think it's "ugly" as in "embarrassingly painful", it's "ugly" as in "disgraceful and borderline illegal." So Ernest Byner isn't in there, but Todd Bertuzzi (rightly) is.
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Post by Mighty Jack on Apr 4, 2010 5:56:25 GMT -5
Interesting read.
Yeah it's weird that the 2 golfing ones were chokes... not really in line with the rest of the piece.
You could have added a few more with that a-hole Romanowski. And you could likely fill up 50 with boxing alone. Also...
* No Woody Hayes punching an opposing player * No Abdul Jabbar takes an elbow and retaliates by decking Kent Benson, breaking his hand... an ugly exchange. * No Pete Rose knocking catcher Fosse on his ass in the all star game. I know, he's Charlie Hustle... but to mess a guy up like that, for a flippin throw away game. * Nothing with Bobby Knight? But he always had a quaint excuse, "Oh my back went out and that's why I head butted that player" - riiiiight.
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Post by afriendlychicken on Apr 5, 2010 0:30:17 GMT -5
I wasn't prepared for number 2. That day will be, forever, burned in my mind. I was a huge fan of Monica Seles, and I admit because of the incident, I had an unwarranted, dislike of Steffi Graf. It wasn't her fault, it was a stupid fanatic fan.
An ugly incident, that I remember seeing, was a brawl that happened during a Braves/Padres baseball game in the 1980's. When the fans get involved, you know it's ugly.
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Post by continosbuckle on Aug 5, 2010 20:57:02 GMT -5
Surprised that the Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini - Duk Koo Kim fight wasn't mentioned. That was brutal.
For those that don't know it, to save you from looking it up, Kim suffered terrible brain damage in the fight, and died five days later. He was so obviously not right, and yet the fight was not stopped. Kim's mother committed suicide a few months later, and the ref killed himself about nine months after the fight. Mancini dealt with depression for several years afterward.
When I saw the article addressing out-of-game things like the Seles attack and Nancy Kerrigan, that fight was the incident I remembered. It was a traumatic thing for anyone that saw parts of it, or pictures. It was truly horrifying. I don't want to call what Mancini did "murder", because he certainly wasn't intending on killing him, and was genuinely horrified and affected by what happened, but it was a televised, highly-watched incident of one man beating another one to death. You can easily say that that was what started boxing into its downward spiral from the big time (possibly the biggest sport) to a minor sport. Who's even heavyweight champion these days? Does anyone care?
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Post by Trumpy's Magic Snout on Aug 7, 2010 11:15:29 GMT -5
To be honest this list could have been made up of cricket, cycling and athletics scandals alone. Very corrupt sports.
A wee correction has to be made to the Maradona one, the World Cup in question was held in Mexico in '86, not West Germany. The "Hand of God" "goal" is a piece of reprehensible cheating but it was against England so you don't tend to find too many people from outside there that complain about it, ha. In the same game he went on to score one of the finest goals you'll ever see when he basically runs past the entire England team before slipping the ball past the keeper from an angle. The game shows the man in both extremes of his talent/depravity.
A recent one that could have been included was Thierry Henry's deliberate handball for France against the Republic of Ireland that led to France qualifying for the recent World Cup at the Irish's expense. Despicable stuff, but given France's abysmal showing some justice was to be had. Of course there are many other football, oh alright, soccer incidents that could have been included, such as Roy Keane admitting in his autobiography to deliberately breaking an opponent's leg, an act that finished the poor guy's career.
And as for the Zidane incident, it's a famous one because of the circumstances but Duncan Ferguson headbutting a Raith Rovers player whilst playing for Glasgow Rangers was a far worse moment as Ferguson was found guilty of assault and spent some time in jail.
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Post by Grape on Aug 8, 2010 8:33:19 GMT -5
Keane didn't break Haaland's leg. Haaland suffered damage to his cruciate ligaments which ended his career.
You could fill out a list of 50 ugliest incidents in sport just with a list of any Rangers/Celtic games and the despicable 17th century attitude of the 'biggest' derby in the world.
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Post by RafaelH on Aug 8, 2010 14:50:09 GMT -5
Some of the things of the list I didn't know but some of the selections are really weak.
Clemens vs Piazza? Pedro Martinez vs Don Zimmer? Really? Also no mention of the Schumacher punching Battiston or the Germany vs Austria game? meh
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Post by Mod City on Aug 8, 2010 15:10:58 GMT -5
Surprised that the Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini - Duk Koo Kim fight wasn't mentioned. That was brutal. For those that don't know it, to save you from looking it up, Kim suffered terrible brain damage in the fight, and died five days later. He was so obviously not right, and yet the fight was not stopped. Kim's mother committed suicide a few months later, and the ref killed himself about nine months after the fight. Mancini dealt with depression for several years afterward. When I saw the article addressing out-of-game things like the Seles attack and Nancy Kerrigan, that fight was the incident I remembered. It was a traumatic thing for anyone that saw parts of it, or pictures. It was truly horrifying. I don't want to call what Mancini did "murder", because he certainly wasn't intending on killing him, and was genuinely horrified and affected by what happened, but it was a televised, highly-watched incident of one man beating another one to death. You can easily say that that was what started boxing into its downward spiral from the big time (possibly the biggest sport) to a minor sport. Who's even heavyweight champion these days? Does anyone care? There's absolutely no way Mancini's actions should be considered murder, then or now. That's preposterous. Yeah, it was brutal. But so was Nigel Benn's beating of Gerald McClellan, the difference being McClellan didn't die, instead he just became a shell of his former self. Boxing is a brutal sport to begin with. It's the nature of the sport. Kim wasn't the first to die from injuries sustained in the ring, and he won't be the last. Everyone knows when they get into the ring that they may not walk out again. More upsetting to me are incidents where fighters take the fight outside the bell. I still remember a kid who had just won a fight early in his career and was all smiles in the corner as he got his gloves taken off. He turned around to shake hands with his opponent - and got absolutely cold-cocked by the guy he had just beaten. Out cold on the canvass. Scary stuff. The announcers were in shock, then they were furious, calling for the police to immediately place the guy under arrest. That, to me, is ugly.
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Post by mrcleveland on Aug 13, 2010 16:16:07 GMT -5
No Cleveland Moments? Cleveland should be on that list! We had The Drive, The Fumble, The Red-Right 88, The Shot, The Collapse,...you name it, Cleveland's the ugliest Sports City with all their dramatic endings in the big games! I don't think it's "ugly" as in "embarrassingly painful", it's "ugly" as in "disgraceful and borderline illegal." So Ernest Byner isn't in there, but Todd Bertuzzi (rightly) is. Well...I made a list of Seven Curses of Cleveland Sports. www.retrojunk.com/details_articles/6306/
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Post by Mr. Atari on Aug 13, 2010 16:24:59 GMT -5
I like the list, but you left out a couple:
1) Jordan's shot over Craig Ehlo.
2) Not sending Kenny Lofton in game 7 of the '07 ALCS.
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Post by mrcleveland on Aug 13, 2010 16:40:48 GMT -5
I like the list, but you left out a couple: 1) Jordan's shot over Craig Ehlo. 2) Not sending Kenny Lofton in game 7 of the '07 ALCS. Well...I can't have every one of them. To me..."The Shot" is the 'turd' of The Cleveland Curse and "The Collapse" (Cleveland vs. Boston in the 2009 ALCS) is the 'fart' of The Cleveland Curse. (George Carlin had three other words with his other seven).
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Post by kanukistan on Oct 6, 2010 16:25:08 GMT -5
No Cleveland Moments? Cleveland should be on that list! We had The Drive, The Fumble, The Red-Right 88, The Shot, The Collapse,...you name it, Cleveland's the ugliest Sports City with all their dramatic endings in the big games! .... Don't forget "The Decision"
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