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Post by angilasman on May 31, 2019 0:57:40 GMT -5
My verdict is that the new movie is a solid, meat & potatoes, "play the hits" type of Godzilla movie. Good, if somewhat unspectacular for someone who's just watched all 34 movies and got the eerie sensation that "hey, haven't I seen this one before?" In this regard it's very similar to the kind of movies Toho did in the '90s or Masaaki Tezuka did in the early '00s.
The audience was filled with kids, and while I maybe wanted a bit more than "play the hits" none of those kids had heard these songs before! This would be my favorite movie ever as a 7 year old, and for a new generation it may just be that!
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Post by travis on May 31, 2019 5:57:57 GMT -5
Ok peeps, GODZILLA KING OF THE MONSTERS WAS ABSOLUTELY PHENOMINAL. The hell with critics, youtubers and doom-and-gloom trolls... it's truly a Godzilla epic the fans deserve.
Thank you Godzilla, for making us laugh about love. Again.
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Post by Torgo on May 31, 2019 10:33:38 GMT -5
I get off work super early today. Should I see this movie again? Yes. I think I will.
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Post by Torgo on May 31, 2019 15:25:19 GMT -5
I enjoyed this movie even more on the second viewing. I'm going to watch this movie so goddamn much on 4K.
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Post by Torgo on May 31, 2019 22:53:53 GMT -5
Video roundup. Mr. Sunday briefly talks about the closing credits and the post-credit scene. His review will be up with the Weekly Planet podcast on Monday.
James "Angry Video Game Nerd" Rolfe and his friends discuss the film as a part of their Rental Reviews series. They enjoyed it, but they had issues.
Finally, Andre the Black Nerd reviewed the film, and he loved the hell out of it.
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Post by Mighty Jack on Jun 1, 2019 17:01:47 GMT -5
My review... letterboxd.com/captainquint/film/godzilla-king-of-the-monsters-2019/Pretty much liked the monsters. The humans were fine, there were a few things they could have fleshed out (and Sally Hawkins deserved better) . But then that would mean giving us more of them, and I feel they were overused as it was. I did like it. Not as much G14, but more than Skull Island (which I can't even remember because I just didn't give a poopie... not a Kong fan anyway) Credits, etc? So before they whited it out, I saw there's mention of another giant egg.
And I do hope that post credit sequence is an indication that Ghidorah will be cloned, and not Mecha-ized. Because I better get my Mechagodzilla sometime. Yeah I know that they are shooting for realism and yadda yadda yadda… don't care, I want Mecha-G. Couse I might denied that if the Box-office numbers keep falling on these things.
also anyone know the monsters at the end. I saw Kumonga and was that another MUTO?
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Post by angilasman on Jun 1, 2019 18:54:14 GMT -5
^ I loved Skull Island! It's definitely my favorite MonsterVerse film so far, as I love the action and thought the CGI creatures felt very tactile and present and I enjoyed the human characters and their quirkiness even as they haplessly got picked off at a rate of seemingly one a minute (it's pretty much a secret horror movie inside an adventure movie).
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Post by Torgo on Jun 1, 2019 18:58:19 GMT -5
Regarding Mighty Jack's question about the "characters" at the end: Both times I saw the movie, I kept trying to read the screens of the "Titanus" locations and was hoping to find some familiar names, but the screen always cut too fast. The ones I have made out were usually genereic names like "Behemoth" or something like that.
The monsters at the end might have been mostly original creations due to the fact that they might have had to pay Toho extra for familiar monsters, but it wouldn't surprise me if they retconned that giant arachnid thing to be Kumonga in the future. And there definitely was a MUTO there, but it looked smaller than the others.
There was also some sort of giant turtle, which I guess you could say was inspired by Anguirus, but to me it looked more like Komoebeas from Space Amoeba. That mammoth ape thing though...I'm pretty sure I've never seen anything like THAT in a Toho movie. The closest I can think of is Maguma from Gorath, but he was a giant walrus.
It was a bit of a missed opportunity for some familiar faces, but I understand they probably needed to keep the budget in check. Ideally monsters like Manda, Baragon, Varan, and Gorosaurus would have been there, but oh well. The new monsters still looked cool.
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Post by Mighty Jack on Jun 1, 2019 21:43:29 GMT -5
Yeah I was thinking that surely one of them had to be Anguirus? They had to have shelled out for Anguirus... ah well.
I've never seen Space Amoeba (apparently Amazon only streams the dubbed version. I don't know if it's one of those movies where theres a difference between the US and Japanese releases, but I keep searching for one with subs. I could buy a used copy on Ebay, but would rather stream it). After looking up Komoebeas I see I was wrong about Tokyo S.O.S (I thought that was a nod to Gamera)
So we have Kong/Godzilla next, then Toho can make another if they want. After that?
Anyway, speaking of movies I've never seen... Svengoolie's on. Later dudes.
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Post by angilasman on Jun 2, 2019 9:58:48 GMT -5
So we have Kong/Godzilla next, then Toho can make another if they want. After that? Anyway, speaking of movies I've never seen... Svengoolie's on. Later dudes. The terms of Toho's deal with Legendary is that Toho can't make a domestic, Japanese Godzilla film while one of their American films is in production. The 5-year gap between Godzilla 2014 and King of the Monsters meant that they could make Shin Godzilla (which was, of course, one of the most successful Japanese Godzilla films of all time). The animated Netflix three partner was apparently made because animation falls into some sort of loophole? Toho is pretty much rearing to go to make more films, but until the contract with Legendary is up with next year's Godzilla vs. Kong they can't do so. Now, since all these MonsterVerse films have just pretty much made a small profit or broke even I think vs. Kong is likely to be the end. However, if Legendary does want to continue the partnership they'll have to renegotiate the rights, and I just don't see Toho with their new desire to make more films agreeing to the same terms as they did for this initial three-picture deal. Basically, if next year's film is the last American Godzilla film on the foreseeable horizon we'll likely see another Japanese Godzilla film within a few years. While no plans are set in stone, a representative from Toho has been on the record saying that the idea is a new, rebooted series of interconnected Godzilla films, possibly with solo films for popular monster characters like Mothra or Ghidorah. Although some of the studio prefer the idea of one movie a year, the current tentative plan is one every two years (of course, everything about this plan is tentative!). Despite the enormous popularity of Shin Godzilla in Japan there are no plans to make a continuation of that movie. However, Shin is still heavily merchandised and the focal point of new amusement Park attractions and such. This suits me just fine, because I love the movie but thought it worked better as a one-off radical reinterpretation. The wild ending struck me as more of a shocking exclamation point than it did a cliffhanger setting up another movie.
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Post by Mighty Jack on Jun 2, 2019 10:43:54 GMT -5
I knew Toho couldn't make another until Kong, but wasn't aware of where Toho's heads were at as for what they wanted to do after that. Thanks for the info.
The line about "Shin is still heavily merchandised and the focal point of new amusement Park attractions and such." gave me a chuckle because it made me think of Gigan and cockroaches. But also I'd love to see a Simpsons-esque parody on a Shin-based amusement park. (kids enjoy the "gouts of blood" waterslide!)
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Post by angilasman on Jun 2, 2019 10:59:20 GMT -5
I knew Toho couldn't make another until Kong, but wasn't aware of where Toho's heads were at as for what they wanted to do after that. Thanks for the info. The line about "Shin is still heavily merchandised and the focal point of new amusement Park attractions and such." gave me a chuckle because it made me think of Gigan and cockroaches. But also I'd love to see a Simpsons-esque parody on a Shin-based amusement park. (kids enjoy the "gouts of blood" waterslide!) Toho just created a nifty new version of King Ghidorah that's apparently going to be a part of the Godzilla vs. Evangelion ride at Japan's Universal Studios. If you go to the park you can even pick up a figure of this original design!
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Post by Mighty Jack on Jun 2, 2019 11:28:46 GMT -5
You know, all joking aside, I would love to see that. I'd love to travel to Japan, see all the traditional sites as well as visit the graves of Kurosawa, Mizoguchi, etc and do all the studio stuff (esp Ghibli Museum)
Well all this talk has put me in the mood for some Ishirô Honda movies I've yet to see. I now have a Varan/Space Amoeba/Gorath/Dogora marathon in my future.
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Post by Torgo on Jun 2, 2019 11:37:28 GMT -5
I've got a gut feeling you might dig Dogora, MJ. It's a very groovy diamond heist movie that has a pretty cool monster in it.
I love Gorath quite a bit. The concept is fun and it's very engaging Toho sci-fi. Varan is usually considered lesser (it was originally a made for TV movie that was adapted for theaters), but I've always enjoyed it. It's been a while since I've seen Space Amoeba, and I remember liking it at the time. Cheesy as hell though.
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Post by angilasman on Jun 2, 2019 11:57:25 GMT -5
Dogora is majorly underrated, and Gorath has some of the best miniature effects.
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