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Post by Jackie Frost on Aug 26, 2008 18:29:17 GMT -5
Is there such a thing as a good Star Trek movie? The episodes are great but I have yet to see a movie staring the old or new cast that didn't make me want to hurl.
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Aug 26, 2008 22:06:14 GMT -5
Is there such a thing as a good Star Trek movie? The episodes are great but I have yet to see a movie staring the old or new cast that didn't make me want to hurl. I would match The Wrath of Khan against any sci-fi/adventure film.
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Post by TomServo69 on Aug 26, 2008 23:21:30 GMT -5
Oh yeah, the Wrath of Khan was awesome. The first film was pretty good too. In fact, I didn't really have a problem with any of the TOS movies except The Search For Spock (which wasn't horrific as I remembered it being the last time that I watched it) and the very last TOS movie which was scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
And I enjoyed all TNG movies. They were all good and the cast hadn't gotten old like the TOS cast had by the last TOS movies.
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Post by ijon on Aug 27, 2008 7:57:39 GMT -5
I don't quite go so far as Jackie, but none of the movies were ever as special to me as the show. A lot of it was just that it came at a really magical time in my life. I was down in the single digit age range and not entirely disentangling the fictional from the factual. That helped Star Trek fill the time I had to wait for my real favourite show to come on: www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvWHnK2FiCk&feature=related
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Post by Mighty Jack on Aug 27, 2008 8:01:14 GMT -5
Is there such a thing as a good Star Trek movie? The episodes are great but I have yet to see a movie staring the old or new cast that didn't make me want to hurl. I would match The Wrath of Khan against any sci-fi/adventure film. I would agree 100%. I also liked the one with the whales, that was a pretty funny one.
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Aug 27, 2008 9:43:10 GMT -5
Oh yeah, the Wrath of Khan was awesome. The first film was pretty good too. In fact, I didn't really have a problem with any of the TOS movies except The Search For Spock (which wasn't horrific as I remembered it being the last time that I watched it) and the very last TOS movie which was scrapping the bottom of the barrel. And I enjoyed all TNG movies. They were all good and the cast hadn't gotten old like the TOS cast had by the last TOS movies. Servo The Undiscovered Country with the original crew's sign-off, and First Contact with the Borg would be my other two favorites. As much as I like them, though, Khan is the one that I don't feel the need to insert the disclaimer that it's a great [ Star Trek] movie. It's just a great movie overall. The rest run the entire range between fun and horrible, although most of the worse ones still have at least one redeeming feature or other.
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Post by Trumpy Dumpy's Salvation Army on Aug 27, 2008 11:36:17 GMT -5
Although I'm a bigger fan of TNG series, I prefer the TOS crew movies over most TNG crew movies. Except First Contact. That was the best Trek movie ever. Right behind that is The Wrath of Khan. And I don't know why so many don't like The Undiscovered Country. So what if they're old, it's very enjoyable. (IMO, of course.)
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Post by ArtCrow on Aug 27, 2008 21:28:41 GMT -5
Ok, here's my contribution to this thread. 100 reasons why Kirk kicks ass on Picard:
100. Kirk is a leader, not a follower. 99. Kirk never really got into that kinky "Jumpsuit" look. 98. Kirk has sex more than once a season. 97. One Word: Hair. 96. Another Word: Pretty-good-looking-can't-see-the-weave-WIG. 95. Kirk can beat up a Klingon bare-handed. 94. Picard is a French man with an English accent. 93. Kirk would date Beverly Crusher -- and damn the consequences!! 92. Kirk never drinks tea. Ever. 91. Diplomacy for Kirk is a phaser and a smirk. 90. Kirk would personally throw Wesley off his bridge. 89. Two words: Shoulder Roll. 88. Kirk doesn't wear dresses when admirals arrive for lunch. 87. Kirk once said: "I've got a belly-ache -- and it's a beauty." 86. Kirk would never sing to children in a crisis. 85. Kirk can almost drive a stick shift. 84. Kirk, almost single-handedly, re-populated the Earth's whale population. 83. Kirk says "Prime Directive? What Prime Directive?" 82. Kirk knows 20th Century curses. 81. Kirk was NEVER infiltrated by the Borg and used against the Federation. 80. Kirk ate little coloured cubes and still remained relatively healthy. 79. Kirk made do with obviously low performance technology. 78. Kirk never pretends to be a barber in order to gain a tactical advantage. 77. Kirk wasn't shy about taking his shirt off --even around those pesky Yeomans. 76. Kirk would never waste a holodeck on something stupid like Dixon Hill. 75. Kirk never once stood up and had to straighten his shirt. 74. One Word: Velour. 73. Kirk can beat a Vulcan at Chess. 72. When Kirk was Picard's age, he retired from Admiral and took to climbing rocks. 71. When Picard was 37, he was only Captain of the lowly freighter, Stargazer. When Kirk was 37, he was Captain of the flagship Enterprise. 70. Kirk liked a good belt of liquor every now and again. 69. One Word: Iman. 68. Kirk looks good with a ripped shirt. 67. If Kirk ever met a Ferengi, he would rip off its head and poopie down its neck. 66. Kirk says "Shoot first and wait for retaliation." 65. Kirk's first officer NEVER tells him to stay on the bridge. 64. Kirk never leaves the room to bawl somebody out. 63. Kirk doesn't rely on the wisdom of some dumb old janitor to get him out of intergalactic scrapes. 62. Two Words: Funky Sideburns. 61. Kirk never asks his bartender for advice. 60. Kirk never once said "Abandon ship! All hands abandon ship!" 59. Kirk is not politically correct. 58. Kirk never got "dumped" by a woman for an intergalactic busy body named after a letter of the alphabet. 57. Kirk never wore green tights and frolicked about in Sherwood Forest. 56. If there was ever a Klingon on Kirk's bridge, Kirk would likely be dead. 55. Ever hear of a bar shooter called "Make it so?" No? How about a "Beam me up Scotty" then? See the difference? 54. One Word: Miniskirts. 53. Kirk's girlfriends always look good in soft light. 52. Kirk never went anywhere without a whole bunch of guys in red shirts. 51. Kirk's first officer didn't play some wimpy instrument like the trombone. 50. Kirk had more dates than his first officer. 49. The extent of Kirk's knowledge of Klingon vocabulary can be roughly translated as "GO F**K YOURSELF." 48. If something doesn't speak English -- it's toast. 47. Kirk wasn't some prissy archaeology fan. 46. Picard's middle name isn't tough or awe-inspiring like Tiberius is. 45. If Kirk finds a strange spinning probe, he blows it up. 44. Picard never met Joan Collins. 43. Picard flunked his entrance exams to Starfleet. 42 Picard hasn't fathered any children; Kirk -- probably millions. 41. Kirk has a cool phaser -- not some pansy Braun mix-master. 40. Two Words: Line Delivery. 39. Picard grew up on a quaint little French vineyard, squishing grapes with his toes, while Kirk slung bails of wheat and hay in Iowa to put himself through school. 38. Kirk emphasizes his orations with pertinent hand gestures. 37. Kirk once made a cannon out of bamboo, sulphur, potassium nitrate, charcoal and then fired diamonds into the hearts of his enemies. (Need we say more?) 36. Kirk is not put off by green skin. 35. Kirk knows how to deal with peace loving hippy goofs. 34. Kirk once fought a Greek god. And won. 33. Kirk barely asks for suggestions. And if he does, he asks Spock only. 32. Kirk doesn't let the doctor tell him what to do. 31. One Word: Fisticuffs. 30. Kirk's name is hated throughout the galaxy. 29. Kirk appreciates Shakespeare, but he doesn't let it show. 28. You can never lock up Kirk for very long. 27. Kirk's eulogies can actually make you cry. 26. Kirk plays god with lesser cultures, and then exploits them for resources. 25. Kirk's son would never drop out to become a musician. 24. Kirk can climb up a Jeffries Tube and fix anything. 23. Kirk never hired an engineer with punk glasses. 22. The Klingons didn't have a word for surrender -- until they met Kirk. 21. Kirk's bridge is not beige. 20. Two Words: Crane Shots. 19. Picard likes wimpy violin music -- and coerces Data into playing it. 18. Picard allows cats on board, while Kirk beams away even really cute things, like Tribbles. 17. Kirk is a cultural icon -- Picard is just some guy who's really nice. 16. Kirk specifically ordered a swivel LA-Z-BOY for the bridge. 15. Kirk would never touch SYNTHAHOL. 14. Kirk looks distinguished in reading glasses -- and nobody dares to call him"four eyes." 13. Kirk can infiltrate Gangsters, Nazis, and even the Pentagon -- easily. 12. Picard likes painting nudes, for art's sake. 11. When Kirk doesn't trust the Romulans, he fires at them. When Picard doesn't trust the Romulans, he gets fired at. 10. Kirk never once, ever,wore a wiener wrapping Speedo banana hammock on shore leave. 9. Kirk never gets his command codes locked out by some pimply acting ensign. 8. Kirk doesn't test the engines -- he just fires them up. 7. When Kirk says "Boldly Go," he MEANS it. 6. Three Words: Flying Leg Kick 5. Picard's crew would never ever think of him as a sexual object. 4. Kirk traveled through The Great Barrier, met God, and wasn't even impressed. 3. Kirk's bedroom is a passion pit with electric sheets. 2. Kirk would never let his Chief of Security wear a ponytail. 1. One Word: Balls
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Post by Torgo on Aug 27, 2008 23:07:19 GMT -5
Although I'm a bigger fan of TNG series, I prefer the TOS crew movies over most TNG crew movies. Except First Contact. That was the best Trek movie ever. Right behind that is The Wrath of Khan. And I don't know why so many don't like The Undiscovered Country. So what if they're old, it's very enjoyable. (IMO, of course.) There's love for Undiscovered Country in my neighborhood. It's actually my fav TOS movie. Honestly, I like Wrath of Khan, but I've never worshiped it like so many others do. It's a good movie, but I've never been blown away by it myself. My personal ranking of all ten of them thusfar would be: 1. First Contact 2. The Undiscovered Country 3. The Voyage Home 4. Generations 5. The Search for Spock 6. The Wrath of Khan 7. Nemesis 8. Insurrection 9. The Final Frontier 10. The Motion Picture
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Post by CBG on Aug 28, 2008 10:00:04 GMT -5
These are a little dated, but funny nonetheless:
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Post by CBG on Aug 29, 2008 9:19:01 GMT -5
Star Trek Memories: Second in a series Greetings- My first encounter with a member of the Original Series cast took place a few years before I started working at Paramount Pictures. I was a Culligan Man (yes HEY, CULLIGAN MAN!) for three years prior to my employment at the studio. I used to install water softeners, and reverse osmosis drinking water units. At the end of each day, we went over the calls and appointments we had for the next day, and prepared our trucks with the proper tools and equipment. So I'm looking at the scheduling board, and I see the name, DeForest Kelley. WHA!? So I grabbed the service ticket and see that Mr. Kelley ( TV's Bones) is in need of a softener repair; it was scheduled with Herb, one of the old-timers I worked with at the time. I went right over to the dispatcher and told her, in no uncertain terms, that I HAD to be the one to take this call. She couldn't see why it made a difference, and made the change without much complaint. So the next day, I drove out to Sherman Oaks, Ca. and arrived at the home of Dr. Leonard McCoy. When I got there, I walked up to the front door about as nervous as geeked-out Trekkie can be when he's about to meet a hero. A woman answered the door, and told me to go to the garage. I walked back down the path, and heard the sound of an electric garage door opener. "This is it!...He's gonna walk out here and tell me what wrong with the softener!" Writing this now, I seem pretty lame and desperate; but I didn't care, I was gonna meet BONES! Well as I rounded the corner and walked into the garage, the same woman came outta the house and pointed over to the softener in the corner. "It's over there." "Mrs. Kelley?" I quizzed. "Yes." Great! That was her, his wife. Sidebar: I have been to many 'celebrity's' homes to service their water conditioning devices. Usually a maid or some other assistant is there to answer questions or let you in the house. Occasionally they might be there, but it was a strict no-no to bother these people in their home. So, as I said, here was Mrs. Kelley standing right in front of me! "Is your husband home?" I shyly inquired. She got this look of panic on her face... "Yes, why?" As I looked at her growing horror, I realized the scene: Here I am a 6'2" 200lb 'plumber' asking the "lady of the house" if her husband was around. I quickly told her that I was a fan-which seemed to immediately confirm in her mind that I was indeed crazy-and that I meant no harm. As she relaxed a bit, she volunteered the information that Mr. Kelley was visiting with the neighbors next door, and would be back momentarily. Let me tell you what, I never milked a job so long in my life! I went as slow as I possibly could, waiting for some sign of the Enterprise's Chief Surgeon. When I had almost exhausted any and all means of stretching this job any further, he came walking up the driveway. WOW! It's really him! "Hello", he said in that McCoy sorta way. "Good Morning!", was all I could seem to eep out. "You got this thing workin' agin?" "Yeah, seems to be okay." "Okay then."...and he started to walk into the house. "HE'S GETTING AWAY!!" my brain screamed! "Mr. Kelley?" "Yes?" "Could you sign this repair order for me?" "Well why don't you come on inside and have a drink, and I'll take care of that for you." WOW! Again, I'm laughing now at my 'crush' demeanor, but this was EXCITING for me. I grew up watching these guys, collecting their pictures and adventures. This was (what I thought then) a "once-in-a-lifetime" experience. So I went inside and Mrs. Kelley was getting some snacks ready for us. They were two of the nicest people I have EVER met in my life. To recall the exact dialog at this point would be embellishing, and I'm sure far from the actual script. We talked about conventions and how "Dee" was getting ready to head out on another one. She showed me a shirt that she was getting ready for him to take with him. It was autographed by "Dee" and was to be the prize for a fan club president that he was going to be meeting at the event. I hung out for the better part of an hour with these folks, and came away very happy and satisfied with my first encounter of a childhood hero. They gave me an autographed picture of McCoy from ST:II WOK, and then signed the service order 'big and bold'. I took that order back to the shop, Xeroxed it, and handed in the copy for processing. I took the original, and framed it and hung it up at home. Later when he died in 1999, Paramount had a memorial service for him in their huge theater. The place was packed, and I got to sit next to Grace Lee Whitney...but that's another story.
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Post by CBG on Aug 30, 2008 22:53:17 GMT -5
Greetings- I was going through some old files on my wife's hard drive, and I came across the pictures she used when we sold all of my Star Trek stuff on E-bay a couple years ago. I figured I share them with you via this thread. These were some of the autographed photos acquired over the years. The one from DeForest Kelley that I mentioned in the previous story, is on top, second from right. I know they're small, I apologize. Kelley's is harder to see because he used a funky red ink that faded over the years.
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Post by CBG on Aug 30, 2008 23:03:12 GMT -5
These are some door signs and entry keys from TNG, DS9, and ST:VI: The ones on the top and sides are Klingon corridor signs from ST:VI From the left you have TNG door entry; and the next two are from DS9.
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Post by CBG on Aug 30, 2008 23:05:27 GMT -5
Here's some of the storyboard from the climactic UFP conference scene in Star Trek VI:The Undiscovered Country.
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Post by CBG on Aug 31, 2008 0:04:46 GMT -5
Okay, one more for tonight: Throughout the '90s, I also collected action figures. I got TNG DS9 and Voyagers all signed.
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