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Post by geminiman112 on Oct 4, 2014 19:45:18 GMT -5
I already did an underrated skits thread, so I decided that there also needs to be an underrated episodes thread. Anyway, the episodes that I think are underrated are . . .
202 - The Sidehackers
403 - City Limits
501 - Warrior of the Lost World
801 - Revenge of the Creature
815 - Agent for H. A. R. M.
911 - Devil Fish
1008 - Final Justice
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Post by Mr. Atari on Oct 4, 2014 21:41:27 GMT -5
List threads are boring. Tell us why you think they are underrated.
There are a couple of us around here that have been carrying the torch for The Rebel Set, which might be the perfect episode. Alas, it is only a couple of us. The film is a beautiful cross-section of all the great '50s B&W genres. It's a heist film and a teen exploitation film, complete with big cars, beatniks, and marriage melodrama. All that's missing is a forced perspective monster. The riffing is hilarious from beginning to end, with so many great set-pieces to attack: the beatnik bar, the terrible priest disguise, the heist itself, and the Sierra Madre infighting on the train. But the host segments really put it over the top: the Rothko paint by number, what would you do in Chicago?, and the great Merritt Stone debate. It is everything I love about MST all wrapped up in one stellar but overlooked episode.
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Post by Torgo on Oct 5, 2014 14:40:17 GMT -5
I laugh myself silly during Bloodlust. Nobody else does. Have no clue why.
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Post by Frameous on Oct 5, 2014 17:37:34 GMT -5
I think every episode from season 7 is underrated. It might be my favorite season, with Laserblast and Incredible Melting Man being highlights. These episodes hit a real sweet spot for me, with Mike hosting and Trace still doing Crow, not to mention 4 "modern" movies being riffed. I don't mind older movies, and I have no problem with black and white, but when it comes to riffing, these 70s and 80s crapfests are as good as it gets for me. I really wish they had a chance to do some of Rifftrax's recent VOD titles during the MST run. The riffing at this time was also a nice mix of style, with just a taste of the mean-ness of the Sci Fi era, but with the over all less cynical approach of the shows origins. I also think that the frustrations the Brains may have been feeling while making the movie squeezed some real quality writing out of them at this time.
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Post by Mike Flugennock on Oct 8, 2014 0:35:32 GMT -5
I think every episode from season 7 is underrated. It might be my favorite season, with Laserblast and Incredible Melting Man being highlights. These episodes hit a real sweet spot for me, with Mike hosting and Trace still doing Crow, not to mention 4 "modern" movies being riffed. I don't mind older movies, and I have no problem with black and white, but when it comes to riffing, these 70s and 80s crapfests are as good as it gets for me. I really wish they had a chance to do some of Rifftrax's recent VOD titles during the MST run. The riffing at this time was also a nice mix of style, with just a taste of the mean-ness of the Sci Fi era, but with the over all less cynical approach of the shows origins. I also think that the frustrations the Brains may have been feeling while making the movie squeezed some real quality writing out of them at this time. I had a hard time with Incredible Melting Man and Laserblast -- both struck me really "scummy" somehow, no pun intended. Really visually unappealing and not quite "bad" enough, if you know what I mean -- plus, Laserblast being Beaulieu's last episode and presumed series finale at the time was kind of a "downer" moment. Still, I've always thought Season 7 never got enough love, absolutely. One of my all-time go-to's with a stout and some doobage is in Season 7, The Brute Man: "...uh, honey? My face is as big as ever, and somebody shot my sizzler off!"... with a side order of Chicken Of Tomorrow, sliced to the width of one electron! Then you've got your Night Of The Blood Beast, with a lightly-spiced cocktail sauce and a spritz of lemon, your High School Big Shot with a hot German Expressionist date and specialty bread! And, how we can forget Death S. Talker and his thrilling victory over a skinny, balding, middle-aged poncy supernatural being while eating potatoes, which is what they eat. But, anyway, yeah, Season 7, quality not quantity. There's some seriously all-time stuff packed into that fistful of episodes, including one of my top ten all-time favorite riffs: 
"These chickens were smoking in bed!"--Michael J. Nelson, Chicken Of Tomorrow
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Post by geminiman112 on Oct 8, 2014 15:26:31 GMT -5
List threads are boring. Tell us why you think they are underrated. Whoops. This is my first forum, so thank you for the advice. Sidehackers is just plain hilarious. City Limits is great because: 1. One of the last FVI episodes. 2. The skits are fantastic. 3. Joel's umbrella censorship is hilarious. 4. The film is very 80s, and I like that. Warrior of the Lost World is great because: 1. First episode of season 5, one of the best seasons (yes, I know that Hercules aired first). 2. Again, very 80s. 3. Hysterical riffing. Revenge of the Creature is great because: 1. First Sci-Fi episode. 2. Really funny. 3. I think the movie is actually pretty decent. Agent for H. A. R. M. is great because: 1. Outstanding riffing. 2. There's something about these skits that I really like. 3. First episode with Patrick Brantseg playing Gypsy. Devil Fish is great because: 1. "Robert Ginty was a better kisser!" That line was the first time I ever heard a callback to a previous episode (granted, I probably heard one before that, but I had no idea that it was a callback). 2. I love swimming. Maybe that has something to do with it. 3. Really, really funny. Final Justice is great because: 1. I actually saw this episode before Mitchell, making the first time I ever saw Joe Don Baker. 2. Joe Don Baker is the topic of some great riffing. 3. I don't really know what else to say about this episode, it's just fantastic! |
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Post by geminiman112 on Nov 25, 2014 20:18:03 GMT -5
I think every episode from season 7 is underrated. It might be my favorite season, with Laserblast and Incredible Melting Man being highlights. These episodes hit a real sweet spot for me, with Mike hosting and Trace still doing Crow, not to mention 4 "modern" movies being riffed. I don't mind older movies, and I have no problem with black and white, but when it comes to riffing, these 70s and 80s crapfests are as good as it gets for me. I really wish they had a chance to do some of Rifftrax's recent VOD titles during the MST run. The riffing at this time was also a nice mix of style, with just a taste of the mean-ness of the Sci Fi era, but with the over all less cynical approach of the shows origins. I also think that the frustrations the Brains may have been feeling while making the movie squeezed some real quality writing out of them at this time. Considering that I've seen every episode except for The Incredible Melting Man, here's my opinions on Season 7: 701 - Night of the Blood Beast: I've only seen the non-Turkey Day version of this episode, so that's what I have to go by. This is a great episode. The riffing feels like a bunch of friends goofing off and having a good time (granted, that is basically what the whole show is about, but I think this aspect of the show is especially noticeable in this episode). 702 - The Brute Man: I really like the skits in this one. I don't know why, but I just do. After reading about the whole "Servo's in an egg" skit, I immediately wanted to watch this episode. The short is great, and the riffing's pretty good during the movie. A great episode. 703 - Deathstalker and the Warriors from Hell: I know a lot of people really, really like this episode, but it's nowhere near as good (in my opinion) as people say. It's still a great episode though. I recall that the riffing was pretty darn funny. I really like that one character (Marinda, if I remember correctly) who has an obsession with potatoes. The only skit I remember was the one in the beginning where Mike and the bots are attempting to serve Dr. Forrester food. I don't know what a meatsatreatsaroti is, but I want one. 705 - Escape 2000: Dissapointing episode. I'm not saying it's bad - it's a lot better than some other episodes out there, but it lacks something. Crow's fundraiser (if I remember correctly) for the really good cause is gut-busting. I really like something about this movie - something about these 1980s apocalyptic Italian B-movies is just amazing. The riffing's okay. There were a couple good quips here and there, but not enough to keep me interested. It's an okay episode. Okay? 706 - Laser Blast: This is one of the best Mystery Science Theater 3000 episodes. The amount of horrible movie and the amount of hysterical riffing is just perfect. Anybody who watched this episode will probably remember the part where Billy picks up the alien gun and puts the gun on. He then proceeds to not shoot, but instead aim his gun at random things and go "Pow! Pow! Pow! Pow!" Crow's response to this? "Anyone over the age of 10 should not say pow." How about the movie's cop-out ending? They literally could have just had a message on screen that read, "Ladies and gentlemen, we have just ran out of budget." While season 7 is one of the best seasons, I'd probably say that season 10 is my favorite season. I also think that it would be really cool if they did all of those 70s movies that they keep doing on RiffTrax. Buffalo Rider would be right up with The Puma Man if it was on MST3K. |
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Post by Frameous on Nov 25, 2014 21:15:36 GMT -5
I think every episode from season 7 is underrated. It might be my favorite season, with Laserblast and Incredible Melting Man being highlights. These episodes hit a real sweet spot for me, with Mike hosting and Trace still doing Crow, not to mention 4 "modern" movies being riffed. I don't mind older movies, and I have no problem with black and white, but when it comes to riffing, these 70s and 80s crapfests are as good as it gets for me. I really wish they had a chance to do some of Rifftrax's recent VOD titles during the MST run. The riffing at this time was also a nice mix of style, with just a taste of the mean-ness of the Sci Fi era, but with the over all less cynical approach of the shows origins. I also think that the frustrations the Brains may have been feeling while making the movie squeezed some real quality writing out of them at this time. Considering that I've seen every episode except for The Incredible Melting Man, here's my opinions on Season 7: 701 - Night of the Blood Beast: I've only seen the non-Turkey Day version of this episode, so that's what I have to go by. This is a great episode. The riffing feels like a bunch of friends goofing off and having a good time (granted, that is basically what the whole show is about, but I think this aspect of the show is especially noticeable in this episode). Oh, man, watch the turkey day version. That is one of the rare occasions that I loved the skits as much as the riffing. Mike as drunk Jack Perkins falling in love with Mr B Natural is solid gold. |
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Post by geminiman112 on Nov 27, 2014 13:48:29 GMT -5
Oh, man, watch the turkey day version. That is one of the rare occasions that I loved the skits as much as the riffing. Mike as drunk Jack Perkins falling in love with Mr B Natural is solid gold. Thanks! I hope it appears in the Turkey Day marathon this year. |
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Post by sidmelton on Dec 30, 2014 13:18:55 GMT -5
It's funny, I'm actually not sure which ones are underrated. I thought The Lost Continent (featuring the legendary Sid Melton) was underrated and then Joel chose it for the latest Turkey Day marathon. That's always been in my Top 5 and I didn't realize it was a prominent experiment. The rock climbing sequences are among my favorite in MST3K history. Sid Melton is my favorite failed comic relief character. And I love the loose feel to all the host segments. It's my favorite Season 2 episode and I love that season.
I also love Ring of Terror and King Dinosaur and I don't think those get much love. Again, there's a certain goofy, rough charm to Season 2 that I enjoy so much. And I'm always a sucker for the incredibly tedious, padded films. There's just nothing that happens in Ring of Terror. Certainly not enough to justify a feature film. And that always strikes me funny.
High School Bigshot is a Top 10 episode for me. I love the short: the idea of an angel and a devil fighting over the soul of a bread delivery man is too good to be true. And the unrelenting bleakness of the feature kills me. I love how remarkably unappealing Tom Pittman is as a leading man. And Mike's "am I a sweathog now, Mr. Kotter?" riff never fails to make me laugh.
I also unabashedly adore any TV movie/repackaged TV show they did. Master Ninja I and II are my two most frequently watched episodes. They could make a million jokes about Lee Van Cleef's obvious stunt double or Tim Van Patten's speech impediment and they will never cease to make me laugh. San Francisco International, Code Name: Diamondhead, Riding With Death and Stranded in Space are all favorites too.
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Post by CrowTrobotfan92 on Jan 17, 2015 16:54:13 GMT -5
I think Bloodlust is pretty underrated. While I'll admit, the riffing could have been a little better, I feel like a lot of people rag on it just because it only has one Brady Bunch joke.
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Post by cahvaydweller on Jan 21, 2015 22:49:33 GMT -5
Kitten With A Whip and Deadly Bees.
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Post by geminiman112 on Jan 22, 2015 2:53:26 GMT -5
Kitten With A Whip and Deadly Bees. Kitten With A Whip is a great episode. Deadly Bees is just plain depressing to me. |
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Post by Mike Flugennock on Jan 22, 2015 20:30:46 GMT -5
I already did an underrated skits thread, so I decided that there also needs to be an underrated episodes thread. Anyway, the episodes that I think are underrated are . . . 202 - The SidehackersY'know, I'm probably one of a handful of MST fans who absolutely swears by Sidehackers -- the kitschy '60s stereotypes, Ross Hagen's exaggerated gravelly voice and his giving us the classic "chili peppers" line, Cambot's one and only riff on MST3K, the sidehacking song, Nelson and Conniff as J.C. and Gootch -- Sidehackers is a gift that keeps on giving. I have to confess to not having seen this one very many times since it first aired. It was one of those episodes that kind of blew on by without leaving any kind of impression. Still, it's been some years, so I might give it another shot sometime... Now you're talkin' man. This Experiment was an instant favorite, one of my go-to Experiments when I've toked up a bit, am in the mood for some MST3K, but can't make up my mind what Experiment I want to watch. I'm truly amazed that anyone wouldn't dig this one, even if it's not as big a favorite as, say, Manos. Warrior is so packed full of meaty, beefy, rifftastic badness that I almost can't handle it all -- the thoroughly unlikeable Paper Chase Guy, Donald Pleasance, really rotten foley sfx, and that kiss -- not to mention some truly great host segments, especially Joel as the Paper Chase Guy, begging his mom for a ride to the Lost World after failing his driver's license exam. Along with Robot Holocaust, this episode helped me loosen up and enjoy bad '80s movies, even after being severely traumatized by '80s pop culture. I'd never have been able to enjoy crap like Hobgoblins and Space Mutiny if it hadn't been for this episode. Oh, yeah, and what other movie has Megaweapon? I mean, c'mon, man. Megaweapon! Megaweapon! Megaweapon!Even inasmuch as this ranks right up there with War Of The Colossal Beast as one of the most pointless sequels ever made, I still dig it because I've been a Creature From The Black Lagoon fan ever since I was a kid, and it kicks off the Sci-Fi Channel seasons with a bang. I wasn't sure about Bill Corbett as Crow in the beginning, but by the end of this one I was thinking yeah, this Corbett dude is gonna be just fine. I've always thought that if it seems as if Corbett wasn't that good, it's only because he had to follow Beaulieu. The movie itself is the kind of movie that Joike'n'the Bots can tear into like a big dog, and the opening Deep Ape segment that parodies Beneath The Planet Of The Apes is hysterical. Granted, it's not Secret Agent Super Dragon, but it's still right up there with those classic second-rate Eurospy Bond knock-offs of the '60s, and is part of my "Secret Agent Mix" along with Super Dragon and Danger: Death Ray. I mean, what the hell kind of dashing, suave super secret agent wears a yellow ochre cardigan, f'cripesake? Then, there's the inimitable Wendell Corey slurring his way through the whole picture, and the villain's Latin sidekick (who also plays a villain's sidekick in Ted V. Mikels' Astro Zombies opposite the massively hot Tura Satana) with the attendant Prince riffs. Another one of those episodes that helped me to let go of my trauma angst and learn to love '80s cheese, especially when it's an obvious Jaws ripoff that's a day late and a dollar short to the whole Jaws rip-off festival. The Italians desperately trying to be Americans are priceless, as is the malnourished-looking blonde who the movie insists is some kind of sex symbol. Then, of course, is that scientist who the movie expects me to believe is actually hot for a woman who looks like a grade-school librarian. The host segments may be just OK in this one, but they really kill it in the theater. I have to confess that I haven't seen this one in so long that I barely remember any of it, except that it has Joe Don Baker being his Joe Don Baker-est. This is one of the movies I have queued up in my occasional, ongoing "For The First Time, Again" Project. |
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Post by Mike Flugennock on Jan 22, 2015 20:49:07 GMT -5
There are a couple of us around here that have been carrying the torch for The Rebel Set, which might be the perfect episode. Alas, it is only a couple of us... Make that three of us. I, too, think Rebel Set totally kicks it. I love silly-assed Hollywood misrepresentations and stereotyping of '50s Beat culture almost as much as I love silly-assed Hollywood misrepresentations and stereotyping of '60s hippie culture (seeing as how I'm an old Deadhead and all). Pretty much every tired old '50s caper drama and pop culture trope is in Rebel Set -- and poorly done at that, as if the writers just threw them all into a blender, hit "puree", and made a script out of the results a la Wild World Of Batwoman. The host segments and the short are really choice, but the main movie itself -- and the shredding it gets at the hands of Joel'n'the Bots -- is the star of the show in this episode. |
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