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Post by kmorgan on Feb 6, 2016 19:46:17 GMT -5
I've remembered one other gruesome bit: the fate of Mrs. Hargrove in "Deadly Bees". Another scene I have to look away from.
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Post by pablum on Feb 7, 2016 1:08:59 GMT -5
Some more that come to mind. Devil Fish has at least two scenes of guys with bloody stump limbs. The Brain That Wouldn't Die features a guy getting his arm ripped off (off-screen), and you get to see his bloody stump and see him linger on for quite some time smearing blood everywhere before he dies. Its in black and white so it might lose a bit of gruesome-ness for you. Squirm can be pretty gross if you have an aversion to seeing massive amounts of worms. Try eating spaghetti while watching it. It also features a dead body of an old guy having his shirt opened to reveal a bunch of squirming worms. Its not in the MST3K version but the unedited Final Justice features Palermo raping the blonde stripper. The one he kills by slicing her neck open. Come to mention it, her death scene is still in the MST3K version and is pretty gruesome. Another gruesome scene excluded from the MST3K version is the death of Prossor's clone in Warrior of the Lost World. It was extremely bloody. Nastasia shoots him a ton of times and blood flies everywhere.
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Post by starschwar on Feb 7, 2016 18:23:08 GMT -5
Doesn't the unedited Invasion of Neptune Men feature real footage of World War II bombings - including the victims? Wouldn't surprise me - Hitler building and whatnot.
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Post by Torgo on Feb 7, 2016 18:59:37 GMT -5
Doesn't the unedited Invasion of Neptune Men feature real footage of World War II bombings - including the victims? Wouldn't surprise me - Hitler building and whatnot. The footage in Neptune Men was stock footage from another movie, including the Hitler Building. The buildings being destroyed are only models.
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Post by Cubey on Feb 9, 2016 19:36:21 GMT -5
Doesn't the unedited Invasion of Neptune Men feature real footage of World War II bombings - including the victims? Wouldn't surprise me - Hitler building and whatnot. The footage in Neptune Men was stock footage from another movie, including the Hitler Building. The buildings being destroyed are only models. That makes me feel better.... that a Hitler building model wasn't built for THAT movie haha.
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Post by starschwar on Feb 9, 2016 20:28:56 GMT -5
Doesn't the unedited Invasion of Neptune Men feature real footage of World War II bombings - including the victims? Wouldn't surprise me - Hitler building and whatnot. The footage in Neptune Men was stock footage from another movie, including the Hitler Building. The buildings being destroyed are only models. I've also heard conflicting reports as to whether any of that stock footage also contained a mix of real footage and effects stuff. It's lost, so we may never know for sure. Either way, thanks for reminding me about that.
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Post by Torgo on Feb 10, 2016 12:37:40 GMT -5
According to IMDB, the movie the footage is from is called World War III Breaks Out, which was something of a Cold War piece about the USA going to war with Russia and Japan being caught in the middle.
As many Kaiju films as I've seen, I somewhat recognize model work compared to actual destruction. The buildings blown up definitely look like models to me, so I have little doubt that they are.
Still, the Hitler Building is hands down the funniest moment EVER on MST. So random.
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Post by continosbuckle on Feb 11, 2016 5:20:32 GMT -5
thank god they took out for the show the infamous scene from Sidehackers. might not see the movie uncut. I've actually seen the scenes in question, and I wouldn't call them gruesome. One element was disturbing but I think it got a lot of that from just how weird and out of place it was. There were two scenes cut out awkwardly, the one immediately after Rommel wakes up in his bed after he'd been beaten into unconsciousness, and the flashback he has when he gets to his friend's house and throws himself into a chair. They're both pretty obvious cuts in the MST3k version. The flashback showed JC's gang sexually assaulting Rita, although she was fully clothed. Essentially each guy was kissing her violently and groping her, and when she struggled too harshly, they pushed her over to another guy where the mauling started again. Eventually, one of them pushed her and she fell over, hitting her neck on a coffee table, apparently snapping her neck and immediately killing her. This was alluded to in the later scene that was in the MST3k version where JC protested to Paisley that he didn't intend to kill Rita. This protest was a bit hollow when one considers the disturbing scene where Rommel woke up. JC and his gang had strung up Rita's body so she was hanging by her arms in a crucifixion pose, so when Rommel woke up he was looking at her dead eyes looking back at him. He crawled out of bed, went over and grabbed onto her hips to hold her, then seemed to get scared of the whole thing, so he ran out of the house. That's where the MST3k version cut back in. Again, it wasn't gruesome. It was just weird and disturbing. The notion that JC would basically desecrate Rita's body after killing her in a fashion that he would later protest was "an accident" just seemed bizarre and off-putting. Wasn't terribly surprising, but I saw that back when YouTube wouldn't let you upload videos longer than 10 minutes, so the upload of Sidehackers was broken up into 11 parts or so, the part with these scenes was viewed 10 times more often than any other 10 minute sequence. For gruesome scenes, although these scenes were suggestive rather than explicit, I found the scene in Unearthly, where the blonde woman was jerked and subsequently killed was pretty awful. And the scene in Atomic Brain where Rita gets her brain carved out of her skull, to be replaced with a cat's brain, for no apparent reason whatsoever, was pretty awful. It's almost as if the scientist decided to do it as a joke, killing an innocent woman and a pet cat without really thinking about it. Also, another suggestively gruesome scene to me is the last scene with Liz Baby in Attack of the Giant Leeches. The movie apparently didn't consider the question of whether she was alive or died in the last few minutes of the film important enough to answer. I was given the impression that she died, but the characters and the audience weren't supposed to care about it because as an adulteress, she deserved it. She wasn't worth even trying to save. That still bothers me reflecting back on it now. Also, the scene where the helpful kid in Being From Another Planet apparently gets liquified was pretty gruesome despite not being very explicit.
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Post by continosbuckle on Feb 11, 2016 18:44:23 GMT -5
I've actually seen the scenes in question, and I wouldn't call them gruesome. One element was disturbing but I think it got a lot of that from just how weird and out of place it was. There were two scenes cut out awkwardly, the one immediately after Rommel wakes up in his bed after he'd been beaten into unconsciousness, and the flashback he has when he gets to his friend's house and throws himself into a chair. They're both pretty obvious cuts in the MST3k version. The flashback showed JC's gang sexually assaulting Rita, although she was fully clothed. Essentially each guy was kissing her violently and groping her, and when she struggled too harshly, they pushed her over to another guy where the mauling started again. Eventually, one of them pushed her and she fell over, hitting her neck on a coffee table, apparently snapping her neck and immediately killing her. This was alluded to in the later scene that was in the MST3k version where JC protested to Paisley that he didn't intend to kill Rita. I actually rewatched this after posting this last night and I need to retract most of this. It had been several years since I'd seen it and I had forgotten how horrendous the rape scene was. Calling it gruesome is merely a matter of semantics, but I could certainly see someone feeling that way. It didn't have any gore, and the rape itself was implied by the action they showed, but it was perfectly terrible. I had also forgotten how poorly Rommel's flashback had been triggered in such an obviously unnecessary fashion. I can only imagine the horror the Brains felt when they saw that scene and realized they still had to do this movie.
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Post by zombiewhacker on Feb 11, 2016 21:58:41 GMT -5
The Brain That Wouldn't Die features a guy getting his arm ripped off (off-screen), and you get to see his bloody stump and see him linger on for quite some time smearing blood everywhere before he dies. Its in black and white so it might lose a bit of gruesome-ness for you. That would be my choice; also the scene at the end where Pinhead bites Jason Evers' neck, then spits the chewed flesh on the floor. Black and white or not... YECH!
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Post by kmorgan on Feb 12, 2016 21:40:17 GMT -5
Squirm can be pretty gross if you have an aversion to seeing massive amounts of worms. Try eating spaghetti while watching it. It also features a dead body of an old guy having his shirt opened to reveal a bunch of squirming worms. I've been trying to forget "Squirm". Yet another "eyes closed" episode.
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Post by mrsphyllistorgo on Feb 13, 2016 1:48:19 GMT -5
Yup, for me it's a tossup for grue in Melting Man and the horror...the horror... of Joe Don Baker gettin' on in in Mitchell. For most squirming discomfort, Sidehackers. Even with the worst cut out it's both a brutal film and an ugly one. Both in watching JT being a woman abusing/raping/killing creepazoid and the physical grunginess of the print and actors. The seventies "realism" has a lot to answer for.
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Post by Mike Flugennock on Feb 15, 2016 19:31:07 GMT -5
Y'know, none of those kind of moments ever really struck me as "gruesome" as much as "gross" or "yucky". As far as "gross" moments goes, right off the top of my head:
-The giant spider melting down in Giant Spider Invasion -Paul ripping the diaper off his face in Projected Man -Boring Scientist Dude being devoured by the Dark One in Robot Holocaust -Tribal Chief eating freshly-ripped-out human heart in Cavé Dwellers
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Post by Cubey on Feb 15, 2016 22:17:56 GMT -5
The old lady in The Deadly Bees getting stung to death was pretty bad. Sure, it was a process shot with plastic flies, but the shot of her dead body was pretty bad. Plus the up close shots of bees stinging. *shudders*
Oh, and Track of the Moon Beast.
It's hard to beat "The Brain That Wouldn't Die" though, even if it's not a gory scene. I mean, the guy salvaged the decapitated head of his fiance and ran several miles carrying it.
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