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Post by 47 on Sept 2, 2018 17:28:15 GMT -5
Here's where we can compile a wishlist of movies that a majority of us can agree would be acceptable for the MST3k style of movies suitable for showing and riffing.
The one steadfast criterion for this list is that any filming began during the last decade — counting from the first day of the year 2008.
Other criteria are negotiable. Graininess is probably out: because, for one thing, deliberate campiness is one of those other things which is best to avoid; I highly doubt that home videos with no screenplay, or something serving in its place, nor anything which was never meant to be published to a wide audience would be included in this list either — e.g. the fledgling experiments from the childhoods of Shyamalan or Spielberg. Big budget and pizazz has also been established as the realm of RiffTrax and other things, and not really the direction MST3k has ever taken.
I'll update this header as we begin to agree on stuff. I'll also hold off on suggesting any until I can gauge the interest in this endeavor. Ready? Okay, so let's pitch in 'n' get cracking…
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Post by Torgo on Sept 5, 2018 23:57:24 GMT -5
I never really ponder movies that I personally want on the show because I'd rather trust the show to find their own own and surprise me. There's a potential leaked title for season 12 out there and it's one that Shout has released on blu-ray themselves under a licensing agreement. I started thinking about their licensing agreement with MGM, who provided a lot of movies for season 11, and realized Shout has released a few that I actually think would be cool to see on the show.
Captain America (I've been pushing this title a lot lol) Robocop 3 Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation
Also I was pondering the other day in the Comic Book Movies thread if Shout's purchase of New Horizon meant they had a master of the 90's Fantastic Four movie and if they currently had the rights to it (Marvel/Disney might own it, but it's a tad shady). It would be hilarious if the first official release of the film were on MST.
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Post by Torgo on Sept 6, 2018 0:11:56 GMT -5
Whoops. I didn't see the "decade" part.
In that case I have no opinion.
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Post by said43 on Sept 6, 2018 10:21:43 GMT -5
The only films I can think of might be too bad for MST3K. There's The Amazing Bulk and Birdemic. It's hard to judge, as they usually go for a PG-13 rating. Some films could be edited down to a PG-13; others could not.
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Post by chudnado on Sept 25, 2018 14:28:20 GMT -5
The only films I can think of might be too bad for MST3K. There's The Amazing Bulk and Birdemic. It's hard to judge, as they usually go for a PG-13 rating. Some films could be edited down to a PG-13; others could not. It's a bit too well known, but I could see Birdemic working on MST3K, with minimal editing for content. The Amazing Bulk though, yeah, that's probably TOO bad for the show, and intentionally bad at that. The biggest problems with more recent cheesy movies is they're often way too graphic/inappropriate to be edited down for MST3K, and that so many (basically anything by The Asylum and/or released on SyFy) are blatantly bad on purpose, which takes away a lot of the fun of riffing them in my eyes. Its fun if the filmmakers thought they were genuinely making something good, or just didn't care, but when its intentionally bad there's not as much joy in it for me.
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Post by 47 on Sept 26, 2018 13:07:35 GMT -5
I was writing a more thorough reply to your suggestions, but for now I'll only throw up a comment or two.
What comes to my mind is some of the stuff you can find on VODO. You feel bad for them, because you know they were not usually doing so with backing funds or investments, and because they were recompensed so little for it. That just means that whoever was hosting MST3k at the time would need to be someone a little like Joel: “Oh, come on guys, it's not all that bad…”
On the beneficial side, it would increase visibility of their project and of their venue. VODO had some decent stuff there.
Ooh, The Wintress [2008] was another indie film that might be acceptable! It was actually pretty decent, would require minimal editing, had excellent audio quality, and was not too bad. Creative Commons or something; I forget their exact license. Maybe a tad too much talking, but there would be enough pauses in there to throw up a number of jokes proportional to the jokes being warranted. Heckard, I have a copy — took me a few months of waiting for enough peers to seed enough of it, — and so I'd be willing to source it for them.
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Post by mrmeadows on Sept 26, 2018 14:46:09 GMT -5
I for one am hoping they don't do Birdemic on MST3K. I mean, I'm generally hot-and-cold when it comes to Rifftrax, but I gotta admit they knocked Birdemic out of the park. I know there has been some MST/RiffTrax crossover before (e.g. Manos), but as far as I'm concerned RT is the last word on Birdemic. I'd prefer MST3K surprise me with something fresh that they can make their own.
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Post by 47 on Sept 26, 2018 18:01:51 GMT -5
I've never heard that one — I don't really follow RiffTrax much, — but I fully agree with you: unless a riff was done badly, or with a far different style, or you had begun writing your riffs at the same time and just didn't release yours soon enough … you get it.
Redoing the KTMA movies with the first syndicated series of MTS3k was okay, because that first run was really a trial run and was certainly improved by later riffing. But when CT redid Santa Claus Conquers the Martians, it was not a complete improvement over the previous effort. I think they even yet missed some opportunities which I had noticed when I saw the MST3k version.
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Post by Afgncaap5 on Sept 26, 2018 23:52:22 GMT -5
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets
I hated the male lead. There was a lot of interesting ideas in this movie, and it's apparently based on a well-respected French comic series but, alas, it seems like the movie didn't quite get things right.
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