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Post by vgaddict on Feb 24, 2019 18:34:46 GMT -5
Now that the new MST3K has had 2 seasons, what do you think of it? Is it a worthy revival?
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Post by chudnado on Feb 24, 2019 19:27:43 GMT -5
Absolutely a worthy revival. I can find things to nitpick, but its definitely MST3K.
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Post by Torgo on Feb 24, 2019 19:31:42 GMT -5
Burn it.
Nah, really like it. But I'm hoping for a few more episodes to rank alongside the best of the original series, of which so far I only consider Avalanche and Wizards of the Lost Kingdom that highly. If they get a few more under their belt then I'll consider it an equal to the original.
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Post by jadenh on Feb 24, 2019 20:06:32 GMT -5
At it's best, it's really good and definitely lives up to the quality of some of the old episodes. At it's worst, it's one of the most boring and painful things I've ever watched. Thankfully, only two episodes have really been like that for me (Atlantic Rim and Carnival Magic). However, the main problem with the new seasons for me is how average a lot of the new episodes are. There's only really a couple highlights and a lot of the episodes end up blending together. The host segments are also pretty weak in a lot of the episodes and don't get nearly as much time as they deserve. So, to shorten things up, it's pretty mixed.
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Post by Megalon on Feb 24, 2019 20:17:25 GMT -5
Call me crazy, but I think the new show is more consistently funny than the original. I would definitely rank Seasons 11 and 12 ahead of Seasons 1 and KTMA, and maybe ahead of a few later seasons as well.
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Post by leeharveyosmond on Feb 24, 2019 20:49:59 GMT -5
it sucks
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Post by Waverly on Feb 24, 2019 23:14:47 GMT -5
Biased, but I like it.
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Post by someoneinatree on Feb 25, 2019 0:04:02 GMT -5
I know the opinions on this board are pretty varied, but I really do love this revival. I don't think they've done enough episodes for me to fairly compare it to the original run, but there are at least five episodes that I feel totally stand with some of the classics. I also know that some people have strong opinions about the decision to remove a host segment from the recent season, but I don't mind it. I also find it worth noting that I saw the live show of The Brain and it was the best MST3K related experience that I've ever had, though I will concede that that might have something to do with the fact that I saw it with my son. The original run ended 13 years before he was born, so it was an experience I never thought I'd have. The movie was perfect for the show and the riffing was very, very sharp.
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Post by BilLumberg on Feb 25, 2019 19:05:03 GMT -5
I like it very much.
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Post by Smash Lampjaw on Feb 25, 2019 22:10:08 GMT -5
In this GIF-laden world we live in, I really feel like you missed a chance at a very obvious MST3K reference here.
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Post by sotrain515 on Feb 27, 2019 11:41:29 GMT -5
It's like Arrested Development season 4. There's clearly a lot of love and talent that went into it and you even see a lot of familiar faces along the way, but somehow the magic just isn't there anymore.
Both of them suffer heavily from what I'm starting to think of as "Netflix Reboot Syndrome" where everyone (read: fans, critics, the show's creators and actors, Netflix) takes it for granted that the project in question is just *not* going to be anybody's day job. All the actors, writers and creative-types in general seem to have their own projects they are devoting actual time to with the Netflix project just kind of getting penciled in over a week or two. Everybody bangs out their pieces as fast as possible wherever and whenever they can over that period (often miles apart from each other) and then the editors come in at the end and Frankenstein it all together in post. It's no skin off anyone's back if it doesn't succeed (except maybe Joel's, who I wish was 100% more involved in the project both in front of and behind the camera) and IMO it shows.
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Post by Diet Kolos on Feb 27, 2019 12:05:58 GMT -5
It's like Arrested Development season 4. There's clearly a lot of love and talent that went into it and you even see a lot of familiar faces along the way, but somehow the magic just isn't there anymore. Both of them suffer heavily from what I'm starting to think of as "Netflix Reboot Syndrome" where everyone (read: fans, critics, the show's creators and actors, Netflix) takes it for granted that the project in question is just *not* going to be anybody's day job. All the actors, writers and creative-types in general seem to have their own projects they are devoting actual time to with the Netflix project just kind of getting penciled in over a week or two. Everybody bangs out their pieces as fast as possible wherever and whenever they can over that period (often miles apart from each other) and then the editors come in at the end and Frankenstein it all together in post. It's no skin off anyone's back if it doesn't succeed (except maybe Joel's, who I wish was 100% more involved in the project both in front of and behind the camera) and IMO it shows. This is actually a REALLY good analogy. I've never thought of it this way before, but I completely agree.
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Post by BoB3K on Feb 28, 2019 1:09:12 GMT -5
... "Netflix Reboot Syndrome" where everyone (read: fans, critics, the show's creators and actors, Netflix) takes it for granted that the project in question is just *not* going to be anybody's day job. All the actors, writers and creative-types in general seem to have their own projects they are devoting actual time to with the Netflix project just kind of getting penciled in over a week or two. Everybody bangs out their pieces as fast as possible wherever and whenever they can over that period (often miles apart from each other) and then the editors come in at the end and Frankenstein it all together in post. It's no skin off anyone's back if it doesn't succeed... This is actually a REALLY good analogy. I've never thought of it this way before, but I completely agree. Yes. perfect. Although, I'm not sure how much of it it has to do with Netflix per se. That was pretty much the plan before Netflix was involved. And, I think it's kind of odd. Joel never really mentioned during the kickstarter (not that it would have changed my pledge or anything), asking for multi millions of dollars, that this was going to be a weekend shoot that everyone was going to pencil in. Compare that to the original run of MST3K -- it was their job, they did it full time, week in week out (at least during each season). It was what all of them were doing for a pay check AND for their creative focus. And I think you can really tell with the final product.
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Post by tvsfrank on Mar 2, 2019 10:11:46 GMT -5
It is both different and the same. It feels like the Joel-Mike switchover and the Comedy Central-Sci-Fi move. At first it was strange and I wasn’t sure I would like it. Then it found its place and belongs with what came before, while also being distinctly its own. I suggest checking it out and giving it a chance. After a nearly twenty year hiatus between seasons, it is absolutely going to feel different.
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Post by Rhedosaurus on Apr 25, 2019 23:35:51 GMT -5
I'll just go by saying that I prefer the original run any day. However, that doesn't mean I don't really like the reboot. While I don't think the new cast (e.g Jonah) are as funny, they still have a goofy and likeable charm to them that's appropriate for the show's feel. I love the new HD presentation and the movie selection has been fairly solid so far.
All in all, I'd say it's "pretty good", and while that may not be quite good enough when it comes to MST. I appreciate the efforts of Joel and Co and am always looking very forward to future seasons.
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