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Post by Udvarnoky on Jan 19, 2019 19:06:45 GMT -5
I don't buy that it was an oversight. The Final Sacrifice was pointedly removed from all VOD outlets in conjunction with the set going out of print, and now it's pointedly available again across a number of them. I do buy that physical and digital rights are separate, but doesn't that limitation usually go in the other direction? There are a lot of MST3K episodes - the Universal ones, for example - only available on DVD. This would be an unprecedented example of the reverse situation.
I think Lost and Found was Shout! just hedging and figuring there were a few bucks to be made on that compilation until and if the rights issues for the two trouble episodes got sorted. Final Sacrifice being sewn back up is just weird timing. Maybe they'll re-release the original volume after Lost and Found has had more of a lifespan, maybe they'll release a Final Sacrifice single, or maybe they'll just calculate that seven years was long enough for any MSTie to have grabbed Final Sacrifice on disc and consider its digital re-availability stewardship enough. If there's another reshuffle of the 20 "classic episodes" on Netflix, I'm expecting it to join the lineup.
It would be nice if Shout! would address this, or maybe they have. I don't really do social media. Anybody try their Facebook page?
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Post by GodzFire on Jan 21, 2019 16:32:25 GMT -5
I just posted HERE an idea I had for potential Season & Complete Series releases. Feedback would be appreciated.
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Post by vandilization on Jan 28, 2019 11:43:07 GMT -5
I just posted HERE an idea I had for potential Season & Complete Series releases. Feedback would be appreciated. While I love the idea of releasing the episodes as a season, I imagine that would be prohibitively expensive, considering when they first licensed the movies, home distribution likely was not part of the contract. Now that there’s a market for them, the owners who actually are willing to license will probably want a good chunk of money that would be hard for Shout to cough up at once for a 24 episode season.
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Post by tvsfrank on Jan 29, 2019 7:48:49 GMT -5
If the sets are still considered “in production” then it means they still have the licenses to produce them. How they package them is probably not part of the licenses.
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Post by Prisoner416 on Feb 13, 2019 0:07:21 GMT -5
This has probably been asked before, but has anyone done a comparison with the old "Merlin's Mystical Shop of Wonders" release to the new one? Did they fix the piss poor transfer?
I really would like to buy it as a standalone but if they fixed it, I might just have to buy the set. That one was always one of my favorites and I just... couldn't watch the Rhino DVD release.
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Post by Torgo on Feb 13, 2019 1:48:01 GMT -5
The transfer isn't as saturated as the original release, but the picture isn't full standard definition. It's very pixelated.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 5:12:05 GMT -5
The new transfer of Merlin is at least watchable, as opposed to the Rhino copy, where the silhouettes blended in with the blacks.
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Post by Ford Prefect on Mar 3, 2019 11:32:13 GMT -5
Minor update to the Final Sacrifice availability discussion. I was just looking over all the official distribution channels for the show again and noticed that, in addition to Amazon and VHX, Shout has the episode listed as being available for purchase on YouTube. It is not available through the official YouTube channel though. I don't remember seeing it on there earlier or I would have mentioned it when I pointed out that it was available on VHX. I wonder if Shout recently made it available for YouTube purchase since then or if I legitimately missed it somehow. Anyway, that's three places it can be purchased digitally even though it isn't currently available on DVD or through a free streaming service. youtu.be/rYHLEX7ZlUI
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Post by marsilies on Mar 8, 2019 15:48:34 GMT -5
If the sets are still considered “in production” then it means they still have the licenses to produce them. How they package them is probably not part of the licenses. The license is not likely to have been a flat fee, but included "royalties" of a sort tied to each copy they sell. Whether this is a set dollar amount, or a percentage of what Shout sells it at, the cumulative effect of putting an entire season in one set would mean the set would either have to be prohibitively expensive, or Shout would be paying out more in licensing than they're making per sale.
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Post by markymark on Mar 16, 2019 8:25:21 GMT -5
Volume 11 reissue coming in June !
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Post by hippiecop on Mar 18, 2019 18:29:49 GMT -5
Awesome !!!
Sounds like we may be "complete" (assuming 12 follows the schedule) by fall.
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Post by ProjectedPaul on Apr 3, 2019 13:32:31 GMT -5
EXCITING NEWS! There may be one more DVD set of unreleased MST3k classics episodes coming later this year! I was listening to the latest episode of the MST3k Revival League podcast, in which horror movie host and long-time MST3k DVD bonus feature contributor Mr Lobo was interviewed. soundcloud.com/mst3krevivalleaguepodcast/episode-159-mr-loboHe said that while he was being interviewed for The Sinister Urge bonus feature for the Volume 9 DVD release, he was also interviewed for a new 30th Anniversary DVD set, that will feature more unreleased episodes. He stated that this will most likely definitively be the last DVD release of episodes not yet commercially available of the classic run of the show. If true, I would wager on Quest of the Delta Knights, as well as the Paramount-Olive Films episodes of Fire Maidens, Deadly Bees, and Space Children. We're well past the five year mark of Olive Films' DVD releases of Space Children and Fire Maidens, in 2012 and 2013 respectively. Maybe Shout has worked out a deal with Paramount/Olive for Deadly Bees before the possible 5 year expiration mark of Deadly Bees' 2015 release before 2020.
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Post by marsilies on Apr 3, 2019 15:27:02 GMT -5
If true, I would wager on Quest of the Delta Knights, as well as the Paramount-Olive Films episodes of Fire Maidens, Deadly Bees, and Space Children. We're well past the five year mark of Olive Films' DVD releases of Space Children and Fire Maidens, in 2012 and 2013 respectively. Maybe Shout has worked out a deal with Paramount/Olive for Deadly Bees before the possible 5 year expiration mark of Deadly Bees' 2015 release before 2020. Well, 2020 is just around the corner. Shout has released a number of MST3K sets in February, so maybe it'll be a "slightly late" 30th Anniversary set. I mean, it's already late, since the previous 20th and 25th Anniversary sets used 1998 as the start date for the show. If Shout releases Vol 12 in the fall, they'll have re-released all the Rhino sets, and then their "last ever" set could be early next year. Edit: Listening to the podcast, they start talking about the box set at around the 41:00 mark.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 17:09:18 GMT -5
Well after this at least we only have to wait several decades before the WW/Nicholson/Toho titles enter the public domain. I do wonder about the future of MST3K on video after all possible episodes are released. I doubt we'll ever get the KTMAs, which is a shame. One thing I'd like to see is the consolidation of 515, 517, and 619 (and maybe Manos) into a box set since those singles together currently cost more than a standard volume of four.
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Post by jadenh on Apr 3, 2019 18:06:47 GMT -5
I feel like the KTMAs will have to eventually come out at some point. Even if they're far from the best episodes of the series, I still think releasing them is hugely important. Most of the uploads on YouTube are in poor quality, not to mention that one of them is literally lost. I definitely think that the KTMAs will have to come out sometime. Maybe they could start with the more famous ones like SST Death Flight and Phase IV and then work their way up (or down depending how you look at it). Nonetheless, I'm still happy that we will most likely be getting a volume 40 in the future.
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