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Post by torgoballz on Mar 20, 2007 12:48:20 GMT -5
Hey Travis, ever think about making a subsection devoted to now-discontinued Rhino releases? It's possible that we might see a repackaged release of some of these episodes in the future... say for example, if volume 10 was pulled solely because of Godzilla, the other movies could conceivably be released again. It also might serve as a good resource to go over WHY some Rhino releases are now out of print.
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Post by travis on Mar 20, 2007 14:07:48 GMT -5
Dammit, I wanted to see how accurate your likelihood ratings were for Volume 11's episodes. Could you please repost those odds? Oh, I was right on the money. All 4 I listed as PD and "Extremely Likely." However, Something Weird Video put out a special edition release for HORRORS OF SPIDER ISLAND... they say "Program content (c) 1994". There are several PD releases of this movie from Alpha, Millcreek, St. Clair, etc... so maybe SW is just protecting their particular transfer of it. Rhino could very well have gone to them for the rights just to be safe. I believe they already licenesed MONSTER A-GO-GO and THE DEAD TALK BACK from them. Hey Travis, ever think about making a subsection devoted to now-discontinued Rhino releases? It's possible that we might see a repackaged release of some of these episodes in the future... say for example, if volume 10 was pulled solely because of Godzilla, the other movies could conceivably be released again. It also might serve as a good resource to go over WHY some Rhino releases are now out of print. Yep I could do that. Check out under the 10th season.
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Post by dangfish on Mar 20, 2007 21:50:57 GMT -5
This was posted eight months ago. Does anybody know if the Devil Doll in this set was the same as the one on MST, and, if so, would that put it in the 'unlikely' category as apocalypse suggests?
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Post by travis on Mar 21, 2007 7:48:57 GMT -5
This was posted eight months ago. Does anybody know if the Devil Doll in this set was the same as the one on MST, and, if so, would that put it in the 'unlikely' category as apocalypse suggests? I said this back awhile ago, but it's not the same movie. The movie Devil Doll used on MST3k was released on DVD by Image Entertainment. If the movie had been released by Warner, it would be "Extremely Likely" because Rhino is owned by Warner.
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Post by dangfish on Mar 21, 2007 17:01:15 GMT -5
This was posted eight months ago. Does anybody know if the Devil Doll in this set was the same as the one on MST, and, if so, would that put it in the 'unlikely' category as apocalypse suggests? I said this back awhile ago, but it's not the same movie. The movie Devil Doll used on MST3k was released on DVD by Image Entertainment. If the movie had been released by Warner, it would be "Extremely Likely" because Rhino is owned by Warner. Sorry Travis. I looked for a response to this but I guess I missed it. And I will now repeat the same transgression of asking you something you've already covered. I swear to you, however,that I looked for this and once again could not find it. Perhaps I'm doing the search thingee wrong or something. Anyway, my question is this; What exactly happend with the whole volume 10 thing? Why was it pulled? If you don't wanna answer this again maybe you can just point me to the correct thread.
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Post by Gummi Bear on Mar 21, 2007 17:11:49 GMT -5
Would there be rights issues with releasing the Beatniks or Crash of the Moons, considering the shorts are from a long-running soap opera, or are they PD?
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Post by vanhagar3000 on Mar 21, 2007 18:41:56 GMT -5
This was posted eight months ago. Does anybody know if the Devil Doll in this set was the same as the one on MST, and, if so, would that put it in the 'unlikely' category as apocalypse suggests? I said this back awhile ago, but it's not the same movie. The movie Devil Doll used on MST3k was released on DVD by Image Entertainment. If the movie had been released by Warner, it would be "Extremely Likely" because Rhino is owned by Warner. Doesn't necessarily mean that division will just lend the footage to Rhino or let them buy it.
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Post by travis on Mar 25, 2007 18:07:52 GMT -5
Would there be rights issues with releasing the Beatniks or Crash of the Moons, considering the shorts are from a long-running soap opera, or are they PD? That I'm not sure about (and now that you reminded me, I should note that on the list). I haven't seen any PD releases of the show, and it is owned by ABC. It's possible some old episodes of the show are PD by "accident", kind of like some Dick Van Dyke Show episodes show up on PD releases but not all. Maybe that's how CC managed to secure a few parts of the show. Sorry Travis. I looked for a response to this but I guess I missed it. And I will now repeat the same transgression of asking you something you've already covered. I swear to you, however,that I looked for this and once again could not find it. Perhaps I'm doing the search thingee wrong or something. Anyway, my question is this; What exactly happend with the whole volume 10 thing? Why was it pulled? If you don't wanna answer this again maybe you can just point me to the correct thread. I've yet to hear an "official" answer as to why Vol 10 got pulled, but my educated guess is it had to do with Godzilla vs. Megalon. Rhino apparently obtained the rights from Krypton International. My theory is that Krypton bought the rights from Gaiem (who bought Goodtimes Home Video - the company Toho said had the US rights to Megalon). Toho may not have given the ok for either one of these transactions. Also, Rhino failed to mention Toho has the copyright holder for the character Godzilla, and all the usual (c) jazz.
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Post by vanhagar3000 on Apr 3, 2007 17:54:49 GMT -5
Isn't Final Justice from the same producers as Angels' Revenge, Azteca Films, therefore part of the WB.
Also, to clear up Parts: the Clonus Horror. I would put EXTREMELY UNLIKELY because the home video rights are held by someone else according to the producers, and Rhino is going to have to wait.
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Post by vanhagar3000 on Apr 4, 2007 17:23:06 GMT -5
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Post by vanhagar3000 on Apr 4, 2007 17:31:38 GMT -5
I've found that apparently Kit Parker (who also produced the Wrestling Gold series) holds the rights to several Robert Lippert films including Radar Secret Service, King Dinosaur, and The Last of the Wild Horses. He says most of the titles have been liscensed to VCI for DVD. Too bad Rhino got rid of VHS.
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Post by Don Quixote on Apr 5, 2007 2:01:28 GMT -5
I really wanted to see Radar Secret Service too. Oh well, Sky will more than likely be willing to process an order for me.
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Post by vanhagar3000 on Apr 6, 2007 10:35:45 GMT -5
Actually, I think RSS falls into PD, (that's what travis said) so as long they didn't license the print from Kit Parker, I don't think there is much they could say about it. I don't think Kit Parker was doing movie distribution back in the 90s, I know around the turn of the century they were producing wrestling DVDs and VHS.
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Post by travis on Apr 7, 2007 5:49:52 GMT -5
Thanks for the Peter Rodgers Organization link, VanHager! I have a big update in store! And check this out: So I guess this company has nothing against our beloved show. Also, to clear up Parts: the Clonus Horror. I would put EXTREMELY UNLIKELY because the home video rights are held by someone else according to the producers, and Rhino is going to have to wait. Not nessicarily. For example: Media Blasters owns the home video rights to THE INCREDIBLY STRANGE CREATURES... and they sub-licensed the movie to Rhino. This goes for many of the movies they've released. Blue Underground is a smaller label like Media Blasters, and I could certainly see them working with Rhino. I've found that apparently Kit Parker (who also produced the Wrestling Gold series) holds the rights to several Robert Lippert films including Radar Secret Service, King Dinosaur, and The Last of the Wild Horses. He says most of the titles have been liscensed to VCI for DVD. Too bad Rhino got rid of VHS. Thanks for the info! It's nice to finally get anything on the lippert films. I knew VCI has KING DINOSAUR since they just released it to DVD. But the other two are unlisted copyright-wise last time I checked. Even then, Rhino could be able to sub license those films from Kit Parker/VCI. Especially if VCI wasn't planning to do anything with those titles.
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Post by vanhagar3000 on Apr 7, 2007 10:21:38 GMT -5
Thanks for the Peter Rodgers Organization link, VanHager! I have a big update in store! And check this out: So I guess this company has nothing against our beloved show. Which makes you wonder why they took BOTE off the market. However, it's more curious that so many other Rhino releases are a part of their company. It makes you wonder who is behind box set three being off the market. PRO or CI, because if it was just CI, you have to wonder why they let them renew volume 1, but not volume 3. It seems nice about MST, but it's a way to get themselves over. They never really "co-produced" anything with MST, the most they did was license their properties.
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