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Post by vanhagar3000 on Jan 20, 2004 19:00:45 GMT -5
Have you ever heard him sing, it's one of the funniest things you can hear.
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Post by TomServo69 on Jan 20, 2004 19:19:23 GMT -5
He's not necessarily the worst singer ever. He's one of the worst, but not THE worst. I know I'm about to catch hell here but, ahhh crap, Bob Dylan and Tom Petty can't sing any better. Sure, they're great songwriters, but, c'mon, you guys admit it, they can't carry a tune in a bucket.
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Post by Buddhist Kitten on Jan 20, 2004 19:27:00 GMT -5
. . . Nor can those heavy metal Linkin Park-esque guys who scream pity and heartache and sadness and distress into the microphone and then put whipped cream on their bandmate's head and laugh their heads off happily. I mean, if they could fake being sad and stuff, they should be actors, not scream into microphone-ers.
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Post by TomServo69 on Jan 20, 2004 19:29:02 GMT -5
. . . Nor can those heavy metal Linkin Park-esque guys who scream pity and heartache and sadness and distress into the microphone and then put whipped cream on their bandmate's head and laugh their heads off happily. I mean, if they could fake being sad and stuff, they should be actors, not scream into microphone-ers. Thank you. Now comment. I agree completely Chemical, one raps, the other whines, put them together with some DJ's and crappy guitar player's and what do you get? Well, crap. So, I stand beside you, bring it on lovers of overrated music. Servo |
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Post by TV's Cowboy on Jan 20, 2004 19:50:20 GMT -5
William Shatner's rendition of Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds made me question my faith in humanity. Still I'd rather listen to that then Linken Park. ZING!!
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Post by nightfalcawk on Jan 20, 2004 19:55:10 GMT -5
Worst Singers Ever- Pauly Shore and John Cleese. I never heard them sing, but listen to the guys talk.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Jan 20, 2004 21:54:46 GMT -5
Bob Dylan and Tom Petty can't sing any better. Sure, they're great songwriters, but, c'mon, you guys admit it, they can't carry a tune in a bucket. Servo This is why our band won't work Servo, we disagree on too much. Dylan and Petty are unconventional but they can sing. Dylan in particular has had about 20 different singing voices over his career and a few of them were quite good. And just to show that opinions are in the ear of the beholder I think Giddy Lee is excruciating to listen too. He may be singing technically correct but it's just Deep Hurting to me. |
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Post by TomServo69 on Jan 20, 2004 23:39:41 GMT -5
This is why our band won't work Servo, we disagree on too much. Dylan and Petty are unconventional but they can sing. Dylan in particular has had about 20 different singing voices over his career and a few of them were quite good. And just to show that opinions are in the ear of the beholder I think Giddy Lee is excruciating to listen too. He may be singing technically correct but it's just Deep Hurting to me. Well, I'm not saying that Dylan is complete trash, don't get me wrong, he's just a better songwriter than he is a singer. And that's just my opinion mind you. There are definitely songs of his that I listen to on a weekly if not daily basis, it's just, if it were all like that, it would be great. But a lot of it is just whiny nonsense in my opinion. There are Rush songs that suck, I know, but at least Geddy Lee was concise throughout, his singing quality didn't diminish, like him or no. Dylan changed so much, some good, some bad, that, I just don't think of him as a master vocalist as most do. Sorry, I never will. I mean, at least I can understand most of the lyrics to a Rush song, you can't say that about many Dylan songs. And about Tom Petty, he's just a Dylan ripoff. Sure, I liked him for a while, but after they play the same 5 songs once an hour, every hour, on the radio, it just gets a little tedious. As always, just my opinion brother, Servo |
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Jan 21, 2004 0:14:26 GMT -5
You make some good points. Dylan is one of my favorite singers but no way I'd say he's a master vocalist. To be sure Giddy Lee sings circle around him in range and technique. But I'd still rather hear Bob sing his own songs, just sounds more honest to me. Bob's current voice is ragged and road weary and I love it. But my favorite singers tend to be my favorite songwritters. I like Petty but I'm not going to go out of my way to defend him. And I agree, when he used to get played on the radio a lot I'd get sick of the hits real quick. I wouldn't have much interest in a Petty greatest hits but I like a lot of the album tracks.
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Post by TomServo69 on Jan 21, 2004 0:16:44 GMT -5
You make some good points. Dylan is one of my favorite singers but no way I'd say he's a master vocalist. To be sure Giddy Lee sings circle around him in range and technique. But I'd still rather hear Bob sing his own songs, just sounds more honest to me. Bob's current voice is ragged and road weary and I love it. But my favorite singers tend to be my favorite songwritters. I like Petty but I'm not going to go out of my way to defend him. And I agree, when he used to get played on the radio a lot I'd get sick of the hits real quick. I wouldn't have much interest in a Petty greatest hits but I like a lot of the album tracks. I am in agreeance on your points Phantom. Thanks for the argument, it was a completely enjoyable experience as always. By the way, who cares? At least we listen to rock..... Servo |
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Jan 21, 2004 0:44:22 GMT -5
I am in agreeance on your points Phantom. Thanks for the argument, it was a completely enjoyable experience as always. By the way, who cares? At least we listen to rock..... Servo Is this the argument clinic? I came here for a good argument. |
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Post by TomServo69 on Jan 21, 2004 0:51:42 GMT -5
Is this the argument clinic? I came here for a good argument. Hey, maybe, got some more points to argue? I'm happy to oblige. Servo |
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Post by Mr. Atari on Jan 21, 2004 12:56:01 GMT -5
No you didn't. You came here for an argument.
Actually, the first thought I had when I saw the title of this thread was, "No he's not. Dylan is."
Phantom, I know we'll have numerous things to agree on in the future, but this isn't one of them. Bob Dylan is the most overrated musician in rock and roll history. He's an awful singer and a worse harmonica player. Mumbling pseudo-subversive lyrics over three chords does not a great songwriter make.
And (although technically not his fault) his legacy is a million wanna-be singer-songwriter hacks making pretentious noise and distracting me from my coffee.
There, I said it and I'm not sorry.
But since we do agree on a great many things, let me throw in with you that as a singer Geddy Lee is a good bass player.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Jan 21, 2004 18:29:29 GMT -5
Bob Dylan is the most overrated musician in rock and roll history. He's an awful singer and a worse harmonica player. Mumbling pseudo-subversive lyrics over three chords does not a great songwriter make. . That's fine, we all have our opinions and their all valid. But I have to think your only familiar with a small part of Dylan's cataloige, esprcially if you think all he does is three chord songs. And your right, he can sing awful, but he can sing uniquly great. He can play awful harmonica, and sometimes brilliantly. And he does sometimes mumble, but for the most part I hear every word clearly. And you didn't mention he's also a terrible lead guitar player. But without him contemporary music would have been for the worse. At least John Lennon and Johnny Cash thought so. |
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Post by Mr. Atari on Jan 21, 2004 20:13:17 GMT -5
I've owned "Blonde on Blonde" at 3 or 4 different times in my life, each time thinking that if it's one of the greatest albums ever, I must be missing something. Then I'd listen to it and remember why I'd sold it before.
That being said, I was shocked and highly impressed that a killer instrumental piece on the Royal Tenenbaums soundtrack turned out to be Dylan. (It was "Wigwam" from his Self Portrait album.) So maybe it's that I've just missed the good stuff in his catalog. Or maybe it's that for a singer, Dylan does great instrumentals.
Either way, Johnny Cash is 10 kinds of awesome. Maybe someone should start a best singer ever thread just for him.
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