Why I hate people

[Mr. Atari]

nightfalcawk said:

I never saw South Park the Movie.

Well, it's not Kubrick.

But it won't depress you, that's for sure.

[Buddhist Kitten]

sampo said:

Well, it's not Kubrick.

But it won't depress you, that's for sure.

True. but 'tis not Kubrick.

GIVE ME FIFTY, PRIVATE PYLE!!!!

[losingmydignity]

Forrest said:

I watched Clockwork Orange again last night, and man, that is a screwed up film! I liked it, but I'm not sure if Kubrick's message was about free will, or if he simply liked to film violence and rape.

That film gives me mixed messages.

Forrest,
Kubrick was a man of high moral character. He made one of the greatest anti-war films ever--Paths of Glory. I recommend it to anyone.

[yousonuva]

losingmydignity said:

Forrest,
Kubrick was a man of high moral character. He made one of the greatest anti-war films ever--Paths of Glory. I recommend it to anyone.

I'll second that. Even though I know I hold no influence whatsoever.

I'd also second Dr. Strangelove: or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb, if anyone had mentioned it. It's a great punch in the gut to the definate destruction of mankind by mankind's lack of control over it's technology. (whew) also one of the most brilliant satires ever.

[nightfalcawk]

Wrong, MST3K is the most brilliant satire of all time and second is Invader Zim.

[yousonuva]

Actually if you reread my post I said it's ONE of the greatest satires. But MST3K is definately ONE of the best satires also (if you're talking about all the episodes as a whole)

[Buddhist Kitten]

nightfalcawk said:

Wrong, MST3K is the most brilliant satire of all time and second is Invader Zim.

Invader Zim is a satire?
It does go against the usual children animated show, but that is not the point of the show head on. The plot is a little psychotic alien trying to rule the world. They weren't trying to make this go against Spongebob Squarepants's view on children's television, they did by accident.
Read Jhonen's comics, and you know what I mean.

[nightfalcawk]

Forrest said:

*cough*Invader Zim sucks*cough*

The best satire comes from MST3K, South Park, Monty Python and Mel Brooks.

*cough* no it doesn't *cough*

[Mr. Atari]

There's a lot of coughing going around.

Is there a virus on these message boards?

Do I need to bring in some Robitussin for all of you?

[emperordorkin]

Robitussin, BLECCCCCCCCCCCCCH!! I wouldn't drink that swill if my life depended on it.

Or any other liquid medicine.

[Buddhist Kitten]

Forrest said:

*cough*Invader Zim sucks*cough*

The best satire comes from MST3K, South Park, Monty Python and Mel Brooks.

1. NO!!!
2. Isn't Mel Brooks parody? Parody and satire are different, n'est-ce pas?
3. Have you forgotten Dr. Strangelove? Isn't there other satire?

[nightfalcawk]

So don't mess with Jhonen Vasquez okay?

[Mr. Atari]

There is a difference.

A good method of satire (but not the only one) is to take ideas to their ultimate, extreme, and often offensive conclusion.

This was done well with the infamous "baby eating" satire of "A Modest Proposal" by Jonathan Swift. (Brilliantly riffed by lemminkimmen in another thread). It is also done very well by the guys at South Park. For example, the NAMBLA epsiode where the arguments for freedom of sexual expression are taken to the extreme conclusion.

Parody is more based on imitation, and isn't necessarily out to make a point.

[nightfalcawk]

sampo said:

There is a difference.

A good method of satire (but not the only one) is to take ideas to their ultimate, extreme, and often offensive conclusion.

This was done well with the infamous "baby eating" satire of "A Modest Proposal" by Jonathan Swift. (Brilliantly riffed by lemminkimmen in another thread). It is also done very well by the guys at South Park. For example, the NAMBLA epsiode where the arguments for freedom of sexual expression are taken to the extreme conclusion.

Parody is more based on imitation, and isn't necessarily out to make a point.

I was the one who wanted to eat babies ;D.