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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2005 21:56:15 GMT -5
On one of my favorite films and most powerful ending of all time. Rutger Hauer's performance as Roy Batty was spell binding as the tragic character. I remember when i finished watching this in the theater, i heard a couple say "Man those replicants were really evil!" I wanted to crush their eyeballs in with my thumbs.
Roy Batty- 'I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. '
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Post by Shep on Aug 5, 2005 22:04:56 GMT -5
One of my fav sci-fi films ever. Although I prefer the theatrical version (I liked the narrations and the flying over the mountains ending) to Ridley Scott's Director's Cut.
A dark, beautiful film. Easily Scott's best IMO.
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Post by Shep on Aug 5, 2005 22:50:36 GMT -5
On one of my favorite films and most powerful ending of all time. Rutger Hauer's performance as Roy Batty was spell binding as the tragic character. I remember when i finished watching this in the theater, i heard a couple say "Man those replicants were really evil!" I wanted to crush their eyeballs in with my thumbs. You know, that is true. Some people see the Replicants as the bad guys, but they aren't. This movie actually gave me an idea for a story that I'd love to write (about psychotic androids, but a totally different story), but I need to think a bit more on how to do it. I got one question: Is Deckard a replicant? Some people say yes, others say no. I can't really tell. The director's cut would indicate Deckard is a replicant. He dreamed about the unicorn and that's the little origambi figure the other cop left for him at the end. Ridley Scott says he's a rep, too.
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Post by Shep on Aug 5, 2005 22:52:58 GMT -5
You know, that is true. Some people see the Replicants as the bad guys, but they aren't. This movie actually gave me an idea for a story that I'd love to write (about psychotic androids, but a totally different story), but I need to think a bit more on how to do it. I got one question: Is Deckard a replicant? Some people say yes, others say no. I can't really tell. The director's cut would indicate Deckard is a replicant. He dreamed about the unicorn and that's the little origambi figure the other cop left for him at the end. Ridley Scott says he's a rep, too. However, given Deckard's mannerisms compared to the other replicants (Sean Young included)--I personally wouldn't have thought so.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2005 22:53:15 GMT -5
Well Ridley Scott decided years after... some people said that you see Deckard's shining eyes in the film but i just think he isn't a replicant.
I prefer the director's cut. Scott was forced to add narration and the ending against his wishes, it really does ruin the film, Ford purposely did the narration awkwardly because the ridiculousness it brought to the tone of the movie.
Yes it's my favorite scifi film too.
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Post by Shep on Aug 5, 2005 23:00:14 GMT -5
Well Ridley Scott decided years after... some people said that you see Deckard's shining eyes in the film but i just think he isn't a replicant. I read the thing about the shining eyes, too. Interesting. If he is a replicant, he seems a lot more human than the others which would indicate he's a newer, better model. Yet he gets his ass kicked by every android in the film, so I have trouble buying it, too. LOL
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2005 23:00:47 GMT -5
Tragic how they die off one by one and Batty keeps his spirits up even to the end even saving Deckard.
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Post by DC on Aug 5, 2005 23:44:48 GMT -5
I really want to see it.
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Post by Shep on Aug 6, 2005 6:50:19 GMT -5
Somehow I don't buy that Scott didn't intend for there to be a narration. There are moments in the film that were obviously designed for narration. Plus, "Blade Runner" is a dark detective movie, so the narration only enhances the film noir feel.
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Post by donmac on Aug 6, 2005 16:06:57 GMT -5
Somehow I don't buy that Scott didn't intend for there to be a narration. There are moments in the film that were obviously designed for narration. Plus, "Blade Runner" is a dark detective movie, so the narration only enhances the film noir feel. My view exactly. Harrison Ford's delivery, which gets so criticized, is actually right in line with the narration deliveries heard in classic Film Noir. There's a whole "World Weariness" to it that just fits.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2005 1:02:36 GMT -5
I get what you mean obviously the narration is an ode to the older noir movies but in this case it quite just doesn't fit because it pulls you out of the whole mood of the story, you are pondering Ford and the whole theme during the flight, spoon-fed with lines when Ford finds a strange object, and the worst time when Batty is 'finished' in his crouched position and you can contemplate everything by yourself.
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Post by mummifiedstalin on Aug 7, 2005 20:24:59 GMT -5
Looking for the interview, Forrest. Don't know if it's online or not. But he's definitely said that, in his mind, Deckard was a replicant...or at least that the movie needed to leave you with that as a real possibility. And he's also said that he didn't like the happy ending/flying away because it implied a way out of the dilemmas that Deckard found himself in throughout the movie (loving what he was supposed to kill, admiring murderers, etc.). The point was to question what it means to be human, not provide a cheesy answer: fall in love and run away.
Anyone else read Dick's novel? Very different beast. I don't really know how the movie came from that book. But Dick actually had a hand in it.
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Post by doctorz on Aug 9, 2005 14:36:36 GMT -5
I think it is left for the audience to decide whether Dekard is a Replicant or not. There are clues, but there is enough doubt as to his humanity to be comfortable whichever way you choose to believe. This is one of my favorite cyber-punk pictures. I can watch it again and again and it never gets old. I love the Noir feel to the whole movie. One of my top ten of all time.
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Post by Shep on Aug 10, 2005 7:18:49 GMT -5
Looking for the interview, Forrest. Don't know if it's online or not. But he's definitely said that, in his mind, Deckard was a replicant...or at least that the movie needed to leave you with that as a real possibility. And he's also said that he didn't like the happy ending/flying away because it implied a way out of the dilemmas that Deckard found himself in throughout the movie (loving what he was supposed to kill, admiring murderers, etc.). The point was to question what it means to be human, not provide a cheesy answer: fall in love and run away. Anyone else read Dick's novel? Very different beast. I don't really know how the movie came from that book. But Dick actually had a hand in it. Sorry, I PM'd this to Forrest the other day. Should have posted it. Not the full interview, but the news article. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/825641.stm
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Post by mummifiedstalin on Aug 10, 2005 8:24:31 GMT -5
Looking for the interview, Forrest. Don't know if it's online or not. But he's definitely said that, in his mind, Deckard was a replicant...or at least that the movie needed to leave you with that as a real possibility. And he's also said that he didn't like the happy ending/flying away because it implied a way out of the dilemmas that Deckard found himself in throughout the movie (loving what he was supposed to kill, admiring murderers, etc.). The point was to question what it means to be human, not provide a cheesy answer: fall in love and run away. Anyone else read Dick's novel? Very different beast. I don't really know how the movie came from that book. But Dick actually had a hand in it. Sorry, I PM'd this to Forrest the other day. Should have posted it. Not the full interview, but the news article. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/825641.stmThanks! I had forgotten about how 6 left the colony and he only hunts 4. But I'm not sure it all plays out if he's the 5th. Did he forget? How long has he worked for the cops? Does the chief know he's a replicant? Is he working off of implanted memories from some dead cop?
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