I've never seen the original, only the Burton remake. Really looking forward to it and am glad they are throwing an older movie or two into the mix. I also think that the "special guest star" might be a good way to bring new fans into the fold.
I really don't know if I want to try this one. Willy Wonka is one of those British musicals like 'Oliver' that I don't care for. I was way too old to appreciate it when it first came out. Afterwards whenever it appeared on the TV I would watch 2 minutes of it and change the channel. Furthermore besides the Producers, Young Frankenstein and Blazing Saddles, I don't care much for Gene Wilder's roles. I may pass on this one.
I've always like NPH, but he achieved 'cooldom' with his performance as himself in "Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle". Any one that can riff on themselves to that degree, can probably hold his own next to Mike.
Post by vanhagar3000 on Apr 10, 2007 11:52:40 GMT -5
UGH, special guest stars? Riffing good movies? This is why I'm never going to get into RiffTrax.
Yeah, I don't even know where to start with this comment...
I appreciate the fact that this is your opinion, but I think you need to think outside of the box...break free of your paradigm...so to speak.
I mean if you are afraid of change, thats fine, but that means you will miss out on the current Mike Nelson work.
I can understand if you are like DoctorZ and want to stay away from certain releases. But, trust me there are some decent rifftraxes of bad movies...like Road House and Crossroads to name a few.
I would encourage you to be open minded and at least try it before you knock it.
You can check out free previews on the Rifftrax site and on my site, if you want a small glimpse of what they are like.
Maybe I shouldn't say that, when I think about it, it's secondary, but something of a factor for the primary reason. The primary reason is money. I'm a consumer, and I only have so much money to spend being unemployed. I don't want to pay for a RiffTrax, then pay to get a hold of the movie, then be missing shadowrama, host segments, robots, and other stuff. MST3K really had a heart and soul. When there a more complete pacakge (MST3K), why would I get into RiffTrax? I understand it, I COMPLETELY understand why people would like it, but it's just not for me right now.
However, that new thing the Film Crew is a complete inexcusible MST retread. You can't even talk me out of that one.
Post by Jackie Frost on Apr 11, 2007 11:47:53 GMT -5
Yeah but Van Hagar ....
I wrote about this in another post, but I'll rehash briefly. The problem of Mst3k is that there is no more of them! Once you've seen every single epsiode of Mst3k that's it! And I don't know about you but I go through intense Mst3k withdrawls ...yearning for the impossible which is a brand new Mst3k episode.
Riff-trax is the methadone cure for those Mst3k-cocaine cravings if you can forgive my comparison. Riff-tax will never be Mst3k but it's the closest thing you can get these days. At least I haven't seen each episode them over and over again to the point where I can recite the dialouge with Mike and the bots. Sometimes you crave something new, you know?
I grew up with this flick on the old C-band satellite system back in the early 1980s. It will always be a classic to me, and frankly I really like this movie. That being said, there's nothing sacred about this cow, and there's lots of history and easily-riffable content here. I'm a little surprised people are down on this choice.
And Neil Patrick Harris is funny. He really is. I expect him to hold up at least as well as Lowtax for this performance.
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Post by Hugh Beaumont on Apr 12, 2007 1:25:55 GMT -5
The way I see it, Rifftrax was never supposed to be MST3K. They even say that it is NOT "MST3K 2.0." No one should expect it to be the same. It's just the same three primary cast members writing humorous commentary tracks for movies. There's no clearly defined parameters for what the movies or riffs should be like, unlike Mystery Science Theater because - tada! - it ISN'T Mystery Science Theater. I just think that no MSTie will ever be truly able to enjoy it unless they get those expectations out of their heads. It's just Mike, Bill, and Kevin, doing what they do best - taking potshots at movies. The end.
As for the guest stars? I could care less who's riffing the movie, so long as they're funny. That should be all that matters. Sure, it's nicer to have familiar voices, but the goal isn't to have a family reunion, the goal is to be funny. If Neil Patrick Harris and Rich Kyanka can achieve that, then bring 'em on.