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Post by vanhagar3000 on Jul 27, 2007 23:14:44 GMT -5
You knew this thread had to eventually come from me. So what's some of your thoughts on Van Halen?
Personally, I thought the 1984 album was the best, followed by their debut, and VH II, then maybe 5150. Van Halen III is of course he lamest from what I've heard of it.
Despite Dave did vocals on my three favorite albums, I thought Sammy was the better singer (hence "Van Hagar," there's my secret!). I think Sammy contributed more to Van Halen than Dave, though it can't be an exact indication, just look at the difference between their careers besides Van Halen. Dave released an awful CD a few years back, and it's not like much anything he did past 1985 could compare to Sammy's Montrose stuff alone.
Eddie is a guitar god, and really pulled mainstream rock out of a rut with Randy Rhoades. On bass, I always liked Michael Anthony, though I would liked to have seen Wolfie live. Alex is a damn good drummer, up with some of my other favorites (Ringo, Richie Ramone, Lars). When I went to see them live, I was stunned at Alex's skill during an extended solo.
They're obviously one of my favorite bands. How about you guys?
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Post by MissAnthropic on Jul 27, 2007 23:19:49 GMT -5
I'm so ashamed. I don't really know anything about the band! Perhaps I'll check out a couple of their albums and get back to you on this. ;D
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Post by TomServo69 on Jul 28, 2007 2:25:19 GMT -5
If'n it has Diamond Dave, it's good Halen. Sorry, I'm a purist. I want to hear Dave wail with Eddie grinding that axe, no Sammy BS.
That's just me.
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Post by Shep on Jul 29, 2007 7:03:44 GMT -5
I liked the Roth era albums a lot when I was younger (especially the first one and 1984) and still enjoy hearing the songs on the radio.
I hope Eddie Van Halen gets himself sorted out and starts playing again. He's a massive talent.
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Post by mccloud on Jul 29, 2007 8:46:49 GMT -5
Their 1st record came out when I was in high school, and we thought they were the poopie. I still love the intro to Runnin' With The Devil, and that song. I saw them once live, when they were touring on their 2nd album, 1980-ish maybe? It was in Cincinnati, and Roth was arrested after they came off stage because he was drinking from a bottle of Jack Daniels on stage - open container laws in Cincy. Since then, I really haven't paid much attention to them. Sorry VH. Their first 2 records were good, though.
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Post by Broadsword on Jul 29, 2007 20:27:39 GMT -5
I'm one of the few that love the Diver Down album more then any of the rest. I'm not sure what is, whether it is the cover songs or the instrumentals it just sticks with me. I like Fair Warning and 1984 quite well also.
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Post by GodoHell on Jul 29, 2007 21:34:30 GMT -5
First two albums ROCK.
The rest--meh.
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Post by Mr. Atari on Jul 29, 2007 21:48:54 GMT -5
Never liked Dave.
Sorry. He just didn't do it for me. That screech-yelp he would do was just so awful. And he did it on every frickin' song. No thanks.
On 1984, the songs made up for his annoyance factor for me.
As for the Sammy era, I liked 5150 a lot. And half of the songs on For Unlawful... were really good.
And I don't think III was Cherone's fault. He has a great voice and it really could have worked. Eddie just didn't write any catchy music, and whoever mixed that album should be kicked out of the music business forever.
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Post by vanhagar3000 on Jul 30, 2007 12:29:46 GMT -5
Thank you, Atari on being a Hagar fan. Only the most elite are! I felt III was a multitude of problems, but Cherone in one way or another contributed to it's downfall I felt.
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Post by Shep on Jul 30, 2007 18:29:35 GMT -5
And I don't think III was Cherone's fault. He has a great voice and it really could have worked. Eddie just didn't write any catchy music, and whoever mixed that album should be kicked out of the music business forever. I read somewhere that the cassette on "III" actually had better sound quality than the CD did. The CD apparently sounded like it was recorded underwater. LOL
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Post by Hugh Beaumont on Jul 31, 2007 13:16:51 GMT -5
I have a great love for '80s hair-metal, but I've never liked Van Halen. To quote the Bots, they're just damn unappealing, to me. I remember being okay with Sammy Hagar, though.
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Post by Truck Farmer on Jul 31, 2007 23:53:24 GMT -5
I've been a huge Van Halen fan for a long time. I always like them with Diamond Dave, but I thought they were better with Sammy. It seemed like near the end with Dave it was more and more about Dave and less about the band. But with Sammy it was more about just playing some serious hard rockin' music.
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Post by Mod City on Aug 1, 2007 12:53:22 GMT -5
Van Halen definitely went downhill after Dave left, in my opinion. I just really, really do not like Hagar's voice, either with VH or his solo stuff. And, well, they just didn't rock as hard without Dave. Maybe they just started taking themselves too seriously.
Either way, 1984 is my choice, but their debut is a stunner.
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Post by Shep on Aug 1, 2007 18:17:05 GMT -5
And, well, they just didn't rock as hard without Dave. Maybe they just started taking themselves too seriously. As with a lot of bands, the rivalry/competition between the singer and guitarist created some good music. When Roth left, I think Eddie got a little lazy. The later guitar work wasn't nearly as dazzling as the early stuff.
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Post by KGB on Aug 4, 2007 20:52:55 GMT -5
I've got all 6 Roth albums and none after that, which should tell you what I think about the merits of Mr. Hagar. The fact is that DLR just had "it". He could do the oversexed drunk and the tough guy swagger believably, yet never take his tongue out of his cheek. Rock singers want to imitate David Lee Roth, they couldn't give a rats a** about being like Sammy Hagar.
My favorite album is Fair Warning, hard hitting and dark, followed by 1984, which turned a bit poppy but didn't compromise the sex appeal and bawdiness.
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