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Post by pups4ever on Dec 23, 2007 3:31:58 GMT -5
No, not the movie I love so much, but is Cinematic Titanic obtaining the rights to their films like some of the ones who claim the copyright on some of their MST3K stuff?
With "The Oozing Skull," they have got the rights to the movie, retitled, and are now distributing it. Isn't that just like how a shady Grindhouse distributor (and some of the shady distributors they dealt with on MST) would re-title and re-release the movie and claim a copyright on it?
I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but it seems to be eerily similar.
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Post by BathTub on Dec 23, 2007 5:50:02 GMT -5
Well Joel explained the name change on his blog, the owner didn't want to confuse the market for Brain of Blood.
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Post by pups4ever on Dec 23, 2007 7:29:01 GMT -5
I understand that, but it kind of seems like the same thing. I bet they were all too eager to change the title of the movie and when the guy brought it up, they pounced.
Then again, it might just be a coincidence (the "changing of the title" thing). I'm not saying they're depriving anyone of due money; they negotiated the rights to distribute it with the right source, but it just feels similar and almost adds a level.
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Post by mrtorso on Dec 26, 2007 18:55:43 GMT -5
I'm kinda surprised they were able to get it at all. Image Entertainment put Brain of Blood out in 2002 and it looks like it is still in print from them.
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Post by vanhagar3000 on Dec 26, 2007 23:48:23 GMT -5
I understand that, but it kind of seems like the same thing. I bet they were all too eager to change the title of the movie and when the guy brought it up, they pounced. Then again, it might just be a coincidence (the "changing of the title" thing). I'm not saying they're depriving anyone of due money; they negotiated the rights to distribute it with the right source, but it just feels similar and almost adds a level. Why would they be eager to change the title? Now people who are familiar with Brain of Blood won't give two craps about The Oozing Skull.
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Post by BathTub on Dec 26, 2007 23:57:05 GMT -5
I'm kinda surprised they were able to get it at all. Image Entertainment put Brain of Blood out in 2002 and it looks like it is still in print from them. Yeah which is why I am getting the set, on the theory that if they licensed one, getting more is reasonably likely. Right, which is why I included that they should tag their video with Brain of Blood, you still want to make sure people know that name so that people who are interested in it hear of Cinematic Titanic.
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Post by Hugh Beaumont on Dec 27, 2007 3:11:37 GMT -5
I understand that, but it kind of seems like the same thing. I bet they were all too eager to change the title of the movie and when the guy brought it up, they pounced. Then again, it might just be a coincidence (the "changing of the title" thing). I'm not saying they're depriving anyone of due money; they negotiated the rights to distribute it with the right source, but it just feels similar and almost adds a level. Why would they be eager to change the title? Now people who are familiar with Brain of Blood won't give two craps about The Oozing Skull.The people who would actually be interested in Brain of Blood itself would probably be offended by their riffing on it, anyway.
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Post by vanhagar3000 on Dec 27, 2007 6:00:46 GMT -5
With the exception of some pompous French film theorist who can see artistic merits of this film, I think most interested in this movie are going to be bad movie fans and are going to be please with a funny version. While I haven't seen it yet, it looks pretty slochky so I don't know how real fans there are. Regardless, I don't see why they'd be EAGER to change the title. Just seems like a minor inconvience.
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Post by Hugh Beaumont on Dec 27, 2007 15:52:24 GMT -5
Have you ever heard the kinds of b-movie buffs who gripe about MST3K's treatments?
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Post by pups4ever on Dec 27, 2007 15:56:50 GMT -5
Dear God, no! But why in the HELL would anyone want to defend 99% of these pieces of cinematic trash anyway?
Seriously, I cannot imagine anyone complaining about how they treated Invasion of the Neptune Men or Manos: The Hands of Fate. These movies deserved worse than what MST did to them! (that is, locked away and never EVER seen again).
I could imagine people mad about how they riffed an Academy Award winning movie (Marooned) or even the Lassie movie. But why defend Santa Claus Conquers the Martians or Merlin's Shop of Mystical Wonders?
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Post by Miss Interoceter on Dec 27, 2007 16:20:01 GMT -5
The only one I can think of off hand is the director of TISCWSLABMUZ, Ray Dennis Steckler, who was furious that they'd lambasted his baby. And the guy who interviewed him, maybe. Although, the tone was more like "Hey, did you see those guys do that thing to your movie, heh, heh?" Director goes nuts. "Um, yeah, those guys are um, jerks! Yeah!" As for pure B-movie fans, no, I don't see them getting too upset or confused by it. Unless, they're angry about the talking over the characters.
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Post by mrtorso on Dec 27, 2007 17:04:43 GMT -5
Have you ever heard the kinds of b-movie buffs who gripe about MST3K's treatments? One man's trash is another's treasure. What I find really funny is people that always make fun of the people who defended the movies on MST. Now with RiffTrax you have the those people getting all mad when Mike riffs a flick they think is good.
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Post by Hugh Beaumont on Dec 27, 2007 18:37:44 GMT -5
Have you ever heard the kinds of b-movie buffs who gripe about MST3K's treatments? One man's trash is another's treasure. I have no problem with their liking the movies. Hell, I like a good b-movie myself. It just gets obnoxious, though, when they curse MST and treat these films like they're blameless, holy creatures who should never be spoken of negatively. It's like, lighten up, guys. They're just movies, for goodness sake. It's akin to the director of Squirm thinking he's made a noteworthy masterpiece. Gag me with a fork.
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Post by Miss Interoceter on Dec 27, 2007 19:41:11 GMT -5
Or with a worm.
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Post by vanhagar3000 on Dec 27, 2007 20:11:57 GMT -5
Have you ever heard the kinds of b-movie buffs who gripe about MST3K's treatments? I would say the majority of b-movie buffs enjoy the bad aspects rather than finding the gold through the crap. Most I've met who aren't hardcore MSTies (many are though) are casual MSTies or haven't bashed the show. I've come a cross a few though. There are those few who are like the French critics who consider Roger Corman and Jerry Lewis genius.
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