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Post by Waluigi on Jul 26, 2008 11:34:37 GMT -5
Really good looking set, I am going to get it (well I was going to get it anyways, b/c I have all Rhino dvd sets).
I really don't see why there are people disappointed over the selection. I mean they are still releasing MST3K on dvd. There will also be really cool extras on the set (Interviews, the MST3k 20th anniversary discussion panel going on today, & much more).
Never seen 211-First Spaceship on Venus, but have seen the other 3. Laserblast is a classic , love 904-Werewolf, & 1004-Future War was one of the best from Season 10(which I think all of season 10 is great).
When this set is released it will be in the middle of football season. So I have one thing to ask, ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!?!?
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Post by quinnmartin on Jul 26, 2008 11:51:53 GMT -5
I really don't see why there are people disappointed over the selection. I mean they are still releasing MST3K on dvd. There will also be really cool extras on the set (Interviews, the MST3k 20th anniversary discussion panel going on today, & much more). Never seen 211-First Spaceship on Venus, but have seen the other 3. Laserblast is a classic , love 904-Werewolf, & 1004-Future War was one of the best from Season 10(which I think all of season 10 is great). I'm sure everyone's happy that Shout is releasing more MST3K on DVD, but that doesn't mean everyone has to be happy with the choice of episodes. To answer your question, probably most of the folks that are disappointed are as big a fans of the eps as you seem to be. Personally, I don't consider Laserblast to be a classic. To me, it's one of the weaker episodes from what was the first season that the show started to decline. And I think Werewolf's a pretty good episode, but I don't love it. And I think season 10 is the worst season of the 10 national seasons, so another season 10 ep doesn't interest me that much. If it would have been say two Hercules and two Russo-Finnish eps, I'd be praising it to the hilt. But either way, it's still great news that another set is being released and I'll be happily paying for it as soon as it's released.
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Post by Chuck on Jul 26, 2008 12:00:09 GMT -5
I'm simply disappointed that there's only one Joel episode.
After all, if it wasn't for Joel, there'd be no MST3K!
Shout Factory has Mike in their stable, and they seem to be promoting him.
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Post by Goji on Jul 26, 2008 12:01:14 GMT -5
For me, this set is basically perfect. "Werewolf" is my second favorite episode ever, "Laserblast" is definitely in my top 10 (and I'm just glad to see the wonderful season 7 finally represented on DVD). "Future War" is an episode I've recently come to appreciate a lot more than I used to. "First Spaceship on Venus" is one of the better Joel era episodes they could have released, IMO. I would have preferred "Bride of the Monster" or "Earth vs. the Spider", but that's a minor point. I can't wait!
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Post by quinnmartin on Jul 26, 2008 12:30:04 GMT -5
I'm simply disappointed that there's only one Joel episode. After all, if it wasn't for Joel, there'd be no MST3K! Shout Factory has Mike in their stable, and they seem to be promoting him. Not sure about them "promoting" Mike, but for a 20th Anniversary set, this one seems to be mostly targeted at a specific section of the fan base. I guess we'll see if the 2nd set is so heavily weighted toward the later years of the show. It is suprising that given what they've said so far, and the hype surrounding this set, that none of the really "big" eps are on it. The ones that IMO have been most wanted and requested by the on-line fanbase. Namely Final Sacrifice, Puma Man, Riding with Death, and the Russo-Finnish eps. Maybe they tried and couldn't get them, but anyone of those eps appearing on this set would have made the big splash within the fanbase that I think they were going for.
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Post by braindeadzombie on Jul 26, 2008 13:21:20 GMT -5
I'd be happy with Beast of Yucca Flats because that would be 20th Anniversary caliber, a best of the worst set. This set reminds me more of those early Rhino sets that favored either Joel or Mike {all CC but there was a reason for that} with none noteworthy episodes {Catalina Caper? Angels' Revenge?} with the good stuff {Creeping Terror and Cave Dwellers, I guess}.
"Earliest episode you can get" Castle of Fu Mancu Beast Werewolf
That's an Anniversary set.
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Post by Trumpy's Magic Snout on Jul 26, 2008 13:30:08 GMT -5
I'm happy with the selection, good choice of episodes and the extras sound good too. Plus a Crow figure in a big box. Sounds not bad to me.
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Post by zorthron on Jul 26, 2008 13:58:30 GMT -5
A month or two ago, I made myself a personal wishlist of episodes that I want to see officially released (of course, I want them ALL released, but you know), and 706, 904 and 1004 were on the list, so in that respect, I'm very happy. I don't think Rhino ever got more than two episodes on a set that I was terribly excited about.
I am disappointed, however, that there's only one Joel episode - VERY disappointed, actually. I think that's one thing that Rhino was getting right in the last few sets (2 Joels, 2 Mikes - one Mike is CC and the other is SF - it should always be like this IMO unless its a "theme" box or something).
Hopefully the Crow figurine will lead to us getting a Servo figure in volume 2?
Anyway, the inclusion of "Laserblast" pretty much makes up for any disappointments - its one of my favorites and I've never had a copy of it that I was satisfied with.
I'm disappointed, too, that there's not any vintage-BBI-produced stuff like episode promos.
I'm going to give Shout factory the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the Mike/Joel ratio and hope that we'll see more Joel love in the next volume.
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Post by Smash Lampjaw on Jul 26, 2008 14:04:37 GMT -5
But who really created the hype?
Shout may have thrown the pitch, but I'd say the MST3K fanbase knocked it out of the park when it comes to hype.
Of course, Shout is going to try to make their releases sound better than Rhinos, why wouldn't they? I think they didn't realize exactly what they were getting into though when they promised "improvements."
It would be terrible business for Shout to release all the big episodes in one proverbial "basket"...Always got to keep the consumer wanting more.
I want all the sets to have this consistency, not one great set followed by a bunch Rhino Volume 11s.
I also don't know how "20th Anniversary Edition" signifies that each episode will be a landmark episode. First, it might be a bit difficult to secure rights for those episodes all at the same time. Second, that whole moniker signified to me that this would be a special set featuring quality episodes, quality bonus features, maybe some special packaging and probably a piece of memorabilia...which is pretty much what we got.
Yeah, not everyone is gonna be pleased with the episode selection, but that comes with the MST3K territory. However, I have a hard time laying much disappointment on the feet of Shout! Factory, when it was the "fanboys" creating the hype...creating something they knew full well was more rooted in utopia than reality.
Of course, these are the same people who are never happy with anything...
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Post by travis on Jul 26, 2008 14:29:14 GMT -5
I'm excited for the set, it's a good batch of episodes (no real surprises, all but one were "Likely to Extremely Likely" on my list), and the extras sound great! Especially the Crow figure, can't wait to see what it looks like. It'll go nice with my real Crow. ;D
As for fan complaining, I'm sure Shout tried to get THE CRAWLING EYE, SOULTAKER and/or DANGER DIABOLIK. They may have been too expensive or not available to them at all (see my Likelihood List). At least they managed to snag LASERBLAST. I wonder if we'll find out about the episodes in the next volume sooner, since they were working on securing them at the same time.
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Post by Reptilian Samurai on Jul 26, 2008 14:47:11 GMT -5
I've only seen Laserblast of those episodes, but am looking forward to having three fresh (to me) shows on the set! When I buy an MST set I usually like to have one that has 1-2 eps I know I love, and then something new that I haven't seen yet to enjoy for the first time.
I do wish the set had more of the important episodes, though, especially because I haven't seen so many of them yet. (First ep of season 1, first and last eps with Frank, Soultaker, or Danger Diabolik.) But I think Laserblast qualifies as an important episode, signifying the end of the CC-era and the last episode with Dr. Forrester, so I can't be totally disappointed here!
Just wondering, how long will Rhino be able to continue producing their old sets? I have about half of them, the essentials, and none of the singles. Do I need to go on a buying spree anytime soon? (And is it ever likely Vol. 9 would come back?)
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Post by travis on Jul 26, 2008 15:19:55 GMT -5
Just wondering, how long will Rhino be able to continue producing their old sets? I have about half of them, the essentials, and none of the singles. Do I need to go on a buying spree anytime soon? (And is it ever likely Vol. 9 would come back?) No one knows for sure, though my guess is the Rhino sets will be in print for a little while longer. Rhino may still be allowed to keep their sets A) in print for another year, B) until the current stock sells out, or C) until the movie rights expire (causing the sets to go out of print one at a time). If I were you, I'd plan on buying what sets/singles I could as soon as possible... since no matter what the case, the Rhino sets won't be around for much longer. Vol. 9 won't be back... but I'm surprised Rhino didn't try to sneak out "Vol. 9.2" when they had the chance.
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Post by Ratso on Jul 26, 2008 15:43:05 GMT -5
It's the 20th anniversary set and we get one Joel episode? Lame. I'm skipping this. Whoa, that'll learn 'em. Yeah, they're heart broken about the whole thing, heard a few people had to be restrained.
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Post by samtaco on Jul 26, 2008 19:26:19 GMT -5
Well here ya go.
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Post by Chuck on Jul 26, 2008 19:41:11 GMT -5
I would like to go on record as saying that I have not, repeat NOT, canceled my preorder.
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