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Post by Mod City on Sept 25, 2007 2:03:08 GMT -5
I don't wait for a lot of season premiers, but I thought this led into the new season pretty well. A lot of nifty questions and reintroductions. A few points I liked:
The Hiro storyline. I really didn't like this whole angle when last season's finale aired, but it suddenly became more interesting with the character of Kensai. Looks like Anders is having fun in the role. He seems to play well off Oka.
The Bennet family dinner conversation. Lots of cool tension here that came off as comedic for the audience at moments. What is the other half (mom and Lyle) of the family thinking? For some reason, I want to know more about those two.
The Taiko Nakamura and Angela Petrelli storyline. Things seem to be closing in on the old guard. Who are the nine remaining after the previous three deaths? And who's after them? Great story for an important plot point.
Molly's nightmares. Who is haunting her dreams? Apparently, he's worse than Sylar.
Now a few criticisms...
The character Molly bothers me. She seems to be a bit ham-fisted in her delivery. She delivers in certain scenes (talking during her nightmares), but a lot of the time it doesn't work for me.
The Nathan/Peter storyline. This could end up being very cool, but it seemed removed from what was going on in the episode.
No Sylar. No Nikki/Jessica. But this could be seen as a good thing, because I just want to know what they're up to more.
In all, I can say I'll be back next week. I want to know what happens.
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Sept 25, 2007 10:59:33 GMT -5
Essentially, my problems had to do with the pacing for a season premiere. It seemed like a lot of time was spent on Claire's new life at school that could have been conveyed just as well in less time. That would leave more time for the Molly/Matt scenes - Molly's nightmares reintroduce the new enemy, and I thought those scenes were good, but they seemed almost as short as a teaser or preview. I think a bit more development there would have brought a better sense of urgency or danger to the first episode of the season.
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Post by wilson on Sept 25, 2007 14:04:51 GMT -5
Essentially, my problems had to do with the pacing for a season premiere. It seemed like a lot of time was spent on Claire's new life at school that could have been conveyed just as well in less time. That would leave more time for the Molly/Matt scenes - Molly's nightmares reintroduce the new enemy, and I thought those scenes were good, but they seemed almost as short as a teaser or preview. I think a bit more development there would have brought a better sense of urgency or danger to the first episode of the season. Yes , but see how you're still chewin' on that ? How it's still hanging there in your mind ? We know many TV & filmakers will hold back a bit on "sewing up every stitch" & let our minds race about , attempting to complete or unravel aspects. Plus , they had "urgency or danger" to spread around in this season kick-off , what with the suggested peril of "The 9" , and the sudden fears of the remaining "old guard". Shows like this are an in sanely tricky balancing act , don't `cha know ! ooh ooh ! Did anybody spend a second thinking , as Noah put his CopyWorld manager in his place , "Hey ! , what was that move ? . . gasp !...we're about to see Noahs' power ?? " Nah , just his covert training coming in handy.
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Post by mrsphyllistorgo on Sept 25, 2007 14:21:53 GMT -5
****SPOILERS****
I did have some issues with Matt and Nathan suddenly being divorced--especially Matt. Wasn't he thrilled to be having a baby with his wife the last time we saw them together? What happened? I hope they cover this a bit during the season, especially as his future child very probably has a power, and will need protection. I can understand Heidi "Mein Fuhrer, I can walk!" Patrelli not wanting "I Hate Shaving But I Loves Booze" Nathan around her and the kids, particularly since she's probably thrilled about walking again and he's clearly not celebrating much of anything. ( By the way, what do his constituents think of his new look and schedule? Shouldn't he be preparing to take office? Did he resign after Peter's "death"? ) But it still seems awfully abrupt to dump spouses like that, with no real reaction from the characters. Perhaps in time....
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Sept 25, 2007 15:02:10 GMT -5
I did have some issues with Matt and Nathan suddenly being divorced--especially Matt. As far as Matt goes, I figured it was mentioned previously and I forgot it. Apparently not though. Also, I suspected that Nathan was "assumed dead" or MIA by the public. Presumably we're primed for a flashback episode, similar to the six months ago we saw during the first season?
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Post by wilson on Sept 25, 2007 18:39:45 GMT -5
To the previous 2 posters. I did read some-damn-where that ep #8 ( possibly) is titled "4 Months Ago". so they're truly sowing the seeds & getting us full of questions !
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Post by mightyjack on Sept 25, 2007 19:19:02 GMT -5
Spoilers - but hell, do we really have to say this, shouldn't that be a given in a thread like this?
Overall the pacing and vibe of it all felt a little disjointed.
Dislikes - Clair's stuff didn't intrigue me at all. Molly was too precocious and bothersome (I hope the show doesn't start suffering from "Wesley Crusher" syndrome) - George Takai.... NOOOOOO!
Likes - When they'd amp up the mystery (who are the other 9, Who is the killer) wondering how Hiro and that "S" like symbol plays into the future. The twins and what they are about.
A show like this you gotta give it time to unfold. Right now it seems like they've got unrelated threads drifting all over the place and I'm interested to see how they all tie together (if at all) at the end.
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Post by wilson on Sept 25, 2007 21:49:25 GMT -5
A show like this you gotta give it time to unfold. Right now it seems like they've got unrelated threads drifting all over the place and I'm interested to see how they all tie together (if at all) at the end. Wise words there , man. What just hit me minutes ago , whilst re-reading EW's cover story this week , was . . well , suddenly I saw last night's ep much clearer, & I realized that between The DVD set , the media attention , & hob-nobbin' with you'se guys right here . . . .My buildup to Season 2 was a whole lot like bouncin' a bottle of soda , beer , what-have-you. Come 9 pm Monday and my top popped , and spent that hour into the next 24 foamin' down my face. The buildup gives way to the "norm" ( Norm !! ) and everything I came upstairs thinkin' was captured in MJ's last line there ! as to his first line ? shall I tweak our Thread-Title once more ? ( guess we'll see )
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Post by wilson on Sept 26, 2007 23:52:37 GMT -5
Hey ! . . . wait a' sec ! We never saw Taiko Nakamura's power , did we ?
well, then he can't be dead . Yeah , he must'a , like, sent his soul into the closest nearby dog or sumthin' ! Or he is gone, and we'll see plenty of him in illustrative flashbacks . Or Isaac comes back and provides illustrated flash-forwards ?
ooh, ooh ! Hiro comes back and finds his actions in episode 5 altered the timeline and his Dad and Mr. I-Zack are . . are . . .
The mind reels . . . .
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Post by wilson on Oct 1, 2007 20:08:30 GMT -5
Ep #2 / 1st break -- not "limited commercial interruptions' this week , huh ?
"Ando will never believe This !"
( hee )
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Post by wilson on Oct 1, 2007 20:09:26 GMT -5
A show like this you gotta give it time to unfold. Right now it seems like they've got unrelated threads drifting all over the place and I'm interested to see how they all tie together (if at all) at the end. Wise words there , man.
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Post by Diet Kolos on Oct 1, 2007 20:24:26 GMT -5
Isn't there a rule about quadruple-posting?
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Post by wilson on Oct 1, 2007 20:26:48 GMT -5
Sorry , didn't know ... now I do. thanks
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Oct 1, 2007 20:48:35 GMT -5
I'm liking it a lot so far. I think it does a good job at fixing the problems I had with the season opener by concentrating in more detail on fewer of the plots. And Peter's back!
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Post by Diet Kolos on Oct 1, 2007 20:49:42 GMT -5
I'm liking it a lot so far. I think it does a good job at fixing the problems I had with the season opener by concentrating in more detail on fewer of the plots. And Peter's back! And he's being beaten up by Eko's dead brother from Lost.
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