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Post by MonsterX on Mar 17, 2009 15:25:16 GMT -5
What might be a good idea would be for them to put out an episode both studio and live versions sold separately, and then see how people react. Then depending on feed back (they need to do an in-depth poll in addition to checking out their sales numbers) take it from there.
If they do the live thing they could record every performance they do for that episode and then pick the one they think is best for the DVD. Ooooor maybe they could put out the regular studio episodes and release the live performance bundled with it as part of a “special edition” package. Make it so people can download the live version separate if they want, but work it out so that they save money if they buy them both together.
Just some brainstorming.
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Post by BilLumberg on Mar 17, 2009 20:38:07 GMT -5
If the live shows don't feature the shadowrama (sadly I have never been), they could always do like rifftrax and just release an audio track. Of course the movies would need to be available on DVD. Or release the movie on DVD with the CT live performance as an additional audio track like riftrax has also done.
I enjoy CT more than rifftrax because of the studio work. I must say though. After seeing the effort put forward by ICWXP (host segments, a premise, shadowrama) that CT needs to do more, not less to really succeed.
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Post by pablum on Mar 18, 2009 11:22:32 GMT -5
I've never been known to buy much live material. I'm no fan of fan noise or lower production standards of live recordings. The only exceptions being some special events like convention videos. I've seen from previous examples that some MSTies in the crowd will drown out riffs or go overboard with laugher on lesser jokes. So if they ever go exclusively with live material, I probably won't be tagging along (unless there are significant price cuts to the live material).
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Post by Beautiful Mind on Mar 18, 2009 16:34:23 GMT -5
Ya know what they could do, they could record it in a theater but without the audience. Sure the shadowrama and skits which I love will be missing but none of the riffs or sound quality would be lost. Then when the audience comes they could film the opening acts and stuff for bonuses.
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Post by Crowfan on Mar 19, 2009 19:22:30 GMT -5
I really hope that they keep doing the studio DVD's. Taping during a live performance would be kind of like watching a TV show with a laugh track. It might also be hard to hear the riffing over the laughter.
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Post by Mighty Jack on Mar 19, 2009 23:59:21 GMT -5
I'd miss the shadowrama, but I have a lot of classic comedy albums and the spontanious laughter adds to the fun (unlike canned trackes that sounds forced). And if my Smother's Brothers LPs from the 60s can handle the mix of music, voice and audience without me missing a joke, I'm sure todays technology can swing it, no problem.
I recall an interview with Joel where he said that the original concept for CT was as a live show, so doing this wouldn't stray from its roots.
I'll take whatever they offer.
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Post by BoB3K on Mar 23, 2009 14:30:59 GMT -5
I'd also be disappointed if they start to view the live shows as their main focus since I think they already do. The live shows are what they promote the most, what they update their blogs for the most, what the interviews are about, and where they premiere new movies at. we'd lose the silhouettes, the sketches, the storyline...all that cool stuff. Wait, they have those things? Oh, right the silly teir seating that makes them so small only the wildest of gestures can be noticed while watching. That 1 shadow-only sketch per movie is barely worth considereing. And let's not even kid ourselves about the "storyline." They're all originally stand-up comics. I think this is what they all really wanted deep down from the beginning--they just might not have known it themselves until they started doing it. Although if you guys are a good sampling of CT-fan reaction, they might not be able to do it. Money talks, but so do fan-numbers. Even if they make most of their money (and get most of their joy) from the live showings, they can't just quit putting out the studio DVDs if it causes a large portion of their fanbase to dry up.
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Post by crowschmo on Mar 23, 2009 17:45:18 GMT -5
I still think they should do a bit of both. Still do the studio versions, for the shadowrama and whatever backstory they are going for, but put out a live one once in a while and see how it goes. People watch comedians on TV in front of a live audience and the audience's laughter doesn't get in the way, in fact, it adds to it. I certainly wouldn't want to watch a comedian on TV standing on a bare stage telling jokes to no one but the camera.
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Post by Cerrita on Mar 23, 2009 17:55:03 GMT -5
My first thought when I read this was those old grade school concerts our parents taped and never watched again.
Face it, the only reason one would watch a taped live show would be to recall fondly the memories of actually being there. Someone who wasn't present just wouldn't be all that entertained with experiencing the event after the fact. However, I do like the idea of live material being offered as extras.
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Post by Chuck on Mar 23, 2009 18:53:00 GMT -5
I still think they should do a bit of both. Still do the studio versions, for the shadowrama and whatever backstory they are going for, but put out a live one once in a while and see how it goes. People watch comedians on TV in front of a live audience and the audience's laughter doesn't get in the way, in fact, it adds to it. I certainly wouldn't want to watch a comedian on TV standing on a bare stage telling jokes to no one but the camera. Have you BEEN to a live show? No, I want to hear every joke, crystal clear with only those in the room whom I choose to invite making noise.
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Post by crowschmo on Mar 24, 2009 21:56:52 GMT -5
Have you BEEN to a live show? Yes. I heard every joke just fine.
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Post by crispyglennmanning on Mar 24, 2009 22:31:01 GMT -5
I went to all 3 shows in Chicago, always sat in the 1st or 2nd row center. Several times in each show there were moments when riffs were lost due to huge audience reactions on the preceding riff. Cinematic Titanic: please continue the studio DVDs. I'd be interesed in live DVD releases but not exclusively so.
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Post by feelingsquishy on Mar 25, 2009 1:03:26 GMT -5
having been to my first live show in seattle, i can say that no, i didn't hear every joke...the audience was laughing. that doesn't bother me in the least though. that's part of being at a live show and it's not like i was quiet about it but i would still be against exclusively live dvd's for two reasons: one, the live shows are experiences unto themselves and while it's all well and good to see a live show on a dvd, it really just isn't the same. bad audio does plague live recordings and on a dvd, the audience is just annoying. it detracts from the what the show is and does nothing to replicate it or make me want to go if i haven't been before. on the contrary, the studio dvd's i've seen of ct is what made me buy a ticket to the live show at the last minute after debating it in my mind for a bit. (mainly, it was because i realized i'd be going by myself...which i did. talk about looking nerdy in public ) the second reason, because i do want a nice clean copy with everything clean, easy to see and hear. the live recordings might be nice as bonus tracks but i really hope they don't go exclusively live dvd's...i like the studio ones.
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Post by Cerrita on Mar 25, 2009 17:54:48 GMT -5
Have you BEEN to a live show? Yes. I heard every joke just fine. How many riffs did the Titans not even bother to start because the audence was laughing too loud?
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Post by Decisi8ns on Mar 26, 2009 22:37:26 GMT -5
I don't want to hear an audience laughing during (and possibly over) the riffs any more then I want to hear a laugh track. Please no. I'd also be disappointed if they start to view the live shows as their main focus since, for various reasons others listed above, I doubt such a venture would have much longevity. I'm glad the live shows are doing well but I hope the official studio releases remain their first concern. Although if, as some are suggesting, they started to include live extras on the DVDs that would be great. In fact, any kind of extras would be great. Even the Film Crew releases had extras. As I read the first post, I had the same thought. How annoying would it be to have a bunch of people laughing at almost every joke told? You'd miss out on other jokes (like you mentioned), plus probably miss a lot of the movie as well. I seriously hope that these DVD's do not replace the studio recordings...since I'll stop buying them. With this weak economy, I guess it was just a matter of time before something would threaten CT.
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