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Post by Don Quixote on Apr 4, 2009 22:21:58 GMT -5
Yes, yes, I know. Two years late for this thread. Bite me, I just started playing it. I'm enjoying it, even though I already know the story (yeah, I'm one of those guys who loves plot spoilers in video games), but the whole game is really cool. A healthy balance between horror/survival and social commentary/human nature. The graphics are pretty cool too. Plot twists are interesting, and many of the residents of Rapture are pretty f***ed up. I recently began playing it on my brother-in-law's X-Box, where I suffered from the (to me) awkward stick positioning (I've never owned an X-Box... sorry). But, despite my spastic inability to move around, the game still sucked me in. I was enjoying fixing up some robots to help me fight, some spooky-ass hospital, and the ghost things that gave you some more back story on this massively messed-up fictional environment.
I picked up a Game Informer a few weeks ago because it had an article on BioShock II: The Sea of Dreams. Seems like a neat departure. Set ten years after the end of the first one, instead of a sweater-clad fellow, you're a Big Daddy Prototype who has the ability to use plasmids. It also introduces the Big Sister, a former Little Sister who grew up and became massively crazy and kidnapped little girls from the coasts to become new little sisters.
So, anyone else play this?
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Post by Captain Hygiene on Apr 5, 2009 10:36:07 GMT -5
Even though I bought my PC last summer, it still refuses to run Bioshock (based on the demo I installed). I'd love to try it out sometime, though - and I'm generally about four years or so behind the curve, at least, for video games, so this thread is too early by my standards.
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Post by mummifiedstalin on Apr 5, 2009 16:22:04 GMT -5
I have it. I've played it some. I was more interested in the story than the actual playing, so I just spoiled it all with websites. Very interesting, and also spawned some cool debates. For instance, google "ludonarrative dissonance."
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Post by Don Quixote on Apr 5, 2009 17:36:23 GMT -5
That's a pretty interesting critique, Mummi. He's right about Bioshock being awesome but just barely missing (for lack of a better word) perfection, or "Citizen Kane" state of gaming. I still enjoyed it, though.
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Post by mummifiedstalin on Apr 6, 2009 9:43:57 GMT -5
Yeah, what I thought was really spot on with that was the idea that the way the game actually plays is contrary to its "message." I mean, the game wants to criticize the ultra-individualist "Ayn-Rand-esque" ideology. But there's no in-game reward for choosing NOT to harvest the Little Sisters. That's particularly a shame in a game that wants to make its ethical point at the forefront. It's almost like saying that you're going to play a Superhero in a shooter who's a paragon of virtue, but during the course of the game, he has to kill thousands of innocents. It just leaves the game and the story in direct opposition.
I don't think in the end it's a criticism of Bioshock itself but a criticism of a game industry that doesn't have a lot of imagination on what actual game play can consist of. There's plenty of "story" variety out there, but most games still involve killing bad guys and bad things.
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Post by Don Quixote on Apr 6, 2009 18:10:42 GMT -5
The only reason I can see for learning to use plasmids and thereby adopting the bad guy ideology is the plot twist in the middle. Excuse me--
SPOILER ALERT!
The fact that Jack is Ryan's brainwashed and programmed kid could be the reason, or it could be a tale of how Ryan is ultimately defeated by his own ideals made manifest, and set against him. As though Rapture itself wasn't a clear enough representation of how Ryan's vision is ultimately corrupted by human failings, Jack becoming a Big Daddy at the end of the game could be final nail in the coffin. At worst, the message is a bit redundant. At best, it's still a beautiful and highly enjoyable game.
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Post by pyrozombie on Aug 18, 2009 2:40:26 GMT -5
When i got this, I wanted to freeze it and put it into a glass of water, just to make the water taste alittle more pure, but instead i pulled from my large,man-shaped walk-in freezer and put it inside my Cross-chest otherwise known as my X-box
Massive amounts of Entertainment ensued.
The environment's phenomenal, The ascetic effects are awe-inspiring, The gameplay is as fluid as water, the story is glistening in the sun and the combat engine is so schadenfreude-tastic(From trap bolts to plasmids to the simple wrench).
I have no doubt in my mind that Bioshock 2 will be great, as for Bioshock 3 and the Movie, is another tale.
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Post by Bix Dugan on Aug 18, 2009 7:05:10 GMT -5
I should be getting a replacement 360 soon, and Bio-shock will be one of the new titles I pick up.
Thanks for the Spoiler Alert...
Red Faction will probably be another title, based on some good write-ups in a few Penny Arcade News articles.
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Post by Bix Dugan on Aug 24, 2009 10:36:13 GMT -5
I DID get Bio-Shock. Pretty spooky, from initial impressions. I just picked up a wrench, to use as a weapon. Looks like a fight is coming!
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Post by Don Quixote on May 11, 2010 21:56:47 GMT -5
Playing through Bioshock again, since I haven't played through it since I installed it on my computer. My brother-in-law let me borrow his 360, and my computer ran Bioshock a little sluggish. I'm really enjoying the added fluidity the X-Box affords, and I had forgotten to not play it at night. Guess I'm too much of a pansy. Just got back into the Medical Pavilion (after my previous save got corrupted and I had to start over). I was hoping to rent Bioshock 2 soon-ish, but I don't know how long I'm going to have the X-Box.
Anyone played the second one? How is it?
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Post by pyrozombie on May 12, 2010 4:14:08 GMT -5
Playing through Bioshock again, since I haven't played through it since I installed it on my computer. My brother-in-law let me borrow his 360, and my computer ran Bioshock a little sluggish. I'm really enjoying the added fluidity the X-Box affords, and I had forgotten to not play it at night. Guess I'm too much of a pansy. Just got back into the Medical Pavilion (after my previous save got corrupted and I had to start over). I was hoping to rent Bioshock 2 soon-ish, but I don't know how long I'm going to have the X-Box. Anyone played the second one? How is it? I thought it was on par. A lot of people don't like how it's different from the second one, but the character roles changed. It went from plane wreck survivor, to the first big daddy, of course the story would be different. I loved it, the multiplayer has some problems.
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Post by Don Quixote on May 12, 2010 9:09:55 GMT -5
The Multiplayer takes place during that Civil War that Rapture had, right?
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Post by pyrozombie on May 13, 2010 2:20:50 GMT -5
The Multiplayer takes place during that Civil War that Rapture had, right? yes, you play as some interesting and diverse characters in it as well, anything from a stay-at-home mother, to a welder that has problems with his higher-ups.
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Post by Don Quixote on May 21, 2010 21:19:21 GMT -5
I finished it last week for the first time. I gotta say, I was a little disappointed in the ending. Stab, shock, stab. Rinse and repeat.
I got the goody-goody ending. I can't bring myself to harvest imaginary little girls who have stem cell magic inside them.
I'm playing through it again to grab up some achievements for my brother-in-law. Also, I wanted to play it again. Just about to venture into Fort Frolic again... *shudder*...
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Post by pyrozombie on May 26, 2010 1:25:17 GMT -5
I finished it last week for the first time. I gotta say, I was a little disappointed in the ending. Stab, shock, stab. Rinse and repeat. I got the goody-goody ending. I can't bring myself to harvest imaginary little girls who have stem cell magic inside them. I'm playing through it again to grab up some achievements for my brother-in-law. Also, I wanted to play it again. Just about to venture into Fort Frolic again... *shudder*... Hey, did you pay tribute to Ryan in the amusement park?
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