I tend to agree with torgospizza that it is the characters of the bots, and the liberties that were allowed to be taken by the performers playing them because they were fictitious characters, that are missed.
I do like the silhouettes, but if I could choose between them or host segments. Host segments would be it. If MST3K did not have host segments to develop the characters it would have been a very different show. There would be no Dr. Forrester, no TV's Frank, no Gypsy, no Pearl, no Observer or Bobo. I feel those segments truly helped make the show more endearing and allowed the characters to become beloved.
Post by natebelville82 on Sept 21, 2009 10:25:27 GMT -5
Rifftrax is very funny. No less funny than some of MST3k. But there is a certain charm that is missing without the silhouettes. Let's not forget the catchy theme song. And though the sketches inbetween the films were hit and miss at best, I think we all miss those to. However, the heart of MST3k always was the riffing of the movie and rifftrax is great for that.
I would prefer that the three guys be at the corner. It gives a better feel that they are there with you watching the movie. Cinematic Titanic uses the silhouettes but they went overboard and it would be better with only three riffers.
Kinda. I have watched a few Rifftrax and I must say they are no where near as good as they could be. I was extremely disappointed with several that I got. Particularly the Harry Potter ones. The second one especially. All the jokes about Richard Harris's health were in considerable bad taste since he died before the movie was released. The rest was just talking trash on Hagrid, and devil worshiping cracks. Amusing the first time, but it got old reeeal fast. Of all the ones I've watched. Running Man, and the Star Wars ones are the only ones that lived up to their potential.
I do miss the robots a lot, but honestly the voices, and new commentaries/DVDs help - It's something new, and fun to laugh @. Rifftrax has given me a chance to get to know Michael, Kevin and Bill instead of Michael, Servo & Crow.
It's something new, different and it's bittersweet. It's something to get used to. For sure. If it weren't for Rifftrax and Cinematic Titanic though we'd have nothing new @ all, so I'm glad they're around.
And the best part of this is it also gives us a chance to meet them during live events. Then we can talk to them about MST3K, etc.
Post by watchoutforsnakes on Aug 12, 2010 13:08:20 GMT -5
I miss them. I liked it when you could see the Silhouettes interacting with the movie. i.e. The car chase scene in Final Justice when Mike gets up and runs in place but it looks like the car is chasing him or the pool cue gag in Girl in Gold Boots.
Absolutely. It seemed like it distanced you even further from the movies by having actual "characters" rather than real people. Not that I don't love Rifftrax and CT, but they're just different. I like their differences as much as their similarities.
Not only do I miss the 'bots, I also prefer the type of movie MST3K would usually take on. The majority of RiffTrax releases are for popular/recent flicks, whereas MST3K would select more obscure/older movies. Which is probably why I prefer Cinematic Titanic over RiffTrax as well.
You could also use that same approach to say CT limits your choices, i.e.- public domain full-length films no one would go near without riffing priced @ $9.99 for download or $14.99 for DVD, while RT give you shorts @$.99/title for download, the option for more recent films being riffed, and public domain full-length films.
As far as the SOL and the 'bots, it was great during its time and they did a nice job of closing it out. I really wouldn't liked to have seen the whole thing run into the ground by carrying it into oblivion.
The way I see it is, they had to sacrifice the silhouettes in order to allow them to riff modern movies with actual DVD releases and whatnot. No way would these studios allow them to redistribute their movies with our dear Mads' riffing on it, much less with their theater seats and heads superimposed over it. So they had to make a concept that makes fun of movies without actually having to work with the movie imagery or distribution, and so audio-only it is.
If that's what it takes to get High School Musical and Star Wars Holiday Special riffed, then it's a loss I can happily deal with.
I really do enjoy the dimension that the silhouettes add to the riffing experience, but I understand why they had to make the decision to get rid of it as well. Thankfully we have the live shows which just about capture that same spirit (for me, at least). And plus, Rifftrax is thankfully also delving back into the old cheesy stuff (Crater Lake Monster and Devil's Hand being recent examples) from time to time, which is always welcome.