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Post by mrbasehart on Aug 18, 2006 3:16:03 GMT -5
Having seen some of you fine people discuss making your own Rifftrax DVD's, whereby you merge Mike's audio with the movie he's riffing, I was wondering what programs I would need for such a task. I have all the necessary hardware to copy my DVD's over, but not the knowhow on how to proceed.
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Post by JoshWay on Aug 18, 2006 6:08:16 GMT -5
I'm sure everyone has a different method, but I'll share mine. Mine involves mostly free software, except for the very important steps of auido mixing and the authoring of the final DVD. I messed around with a few methods until I found one that didn't require me to re-encode the video at all (unless it's too big for a single layer DVD).
(Standard disclaimers apply: be sure to purchase the DVD of the movie, ripping DVDs you own is technically still illegal, etc.)
1. Rip the entire DVD to hard drive with DVD Decryptor (free tool but harder to find online these days). 2. Extract the movie to a single VOB file and separate AC3 (dolby digital) files with Smartripper 4 (free program), using "stream processing" (I kept the Kevin Smith commentary for Road House, so I ripped two AC3 files, one of the soundtrack to mix with the Rifftrax, and another of the commentary). NOTE: You could just perform step 2 directly from the DVD disc, but I find that Smartripper is rather slow when ripping encrypted data. 3. Convert AC3 soundtrack to WAV using AC3Tool (free program). 4. In audio editor (I use Sony Vegas, but I've heard many others use GoldWave), mix WAV soundtrack and RIFFTRAX mp3 - export as AC3 file. (If you don't have AC3 as an export option, export a WAV and let your DVD authoring software take care of it.) NOTE: Resulting AC3 file will NOT seem to sync with video in DVD Architect - but don't worry about it! 5. Author new DVD in DVD Architect 3, using single VOB file for video, original AC3 file for movie-only soundtrack, and your newly mixed AC3 file for Rifftrax commentary (and any other audio tracks you want). 6. Prepare DVD. If resulting files are too big for single layer DVD (and if you don't have a DL burner), use DVD Shrink to make it fit. 7. Burn DVD (I use Nero).
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Post by gammer on Aug 18, 2006 7:53:37 GMT -5
Here is my method: 1)Rip DVD to HDD with DVD Decrypter, to get a M2V file and the AC3 audio. Tip for demuxing with DVD Decrypter: Note: If AC3 audio has a delay (noted in filename: filename_delay-32ms.ac3), then you will need a tool like AC3 Delay Corrector, to fix the delay before continuing). 2)Convert AC3 audio to WAVE audio with GoldWave 3)Convert RiffTrax MP3 to WAVE audio with GoldWave...remember to resample this to 48khz (as it comes 44.1khz) Note: Its best to convert all your audio files to Wave (PCM) if you are going to be editing. It will be faster and less chance of errors. 4)Open both Movie audio and RiffTrax audio into GoldWave. Then use gold wave to adjust sync timing and to "blank out" Disembaudio's lines (after they are synced). And then Mix both audio's together. (This is the most time consuming part of the whole process). 5)Using GoldWave, output newly mixed audio to HDD as Wave file. 6)Drop new Wave audio file into TMPGEnc Sound Player and convert to AC3 audio. Note: You don't have to convert to AC3 audio if you dont want to, however it is more compatable with DVD players. Alternitavely, you can use TMPGEnc to convert the new Wave audio to MP2 audio. 7)Using TMPGEnc, Mux new AC3 audio with M2V file to get MPG file 8)Use TMPGEnc DVD Author to create new DVD. 9)If DVD is bigger then 4.35GB, then you must use DVD Shrink to make it fit on a single layer DVD. You can find all of the tools mentioned here at: www.videohelp.com/toolsDVD Decrypter AC3 Delay Corrector GoldWave TMPGEnc TMPGEnc DVD Author TMPGEnc Sound Player DVD Shrink I think the only one that is not free or have a free trial period is TMPGEnc Sound Player. That is why I mentioned that you dont have to convert Wave file to AC3, you can do it to MP2 with TMPGEnc. I have a feeling that there will be enough interest to make a detailed step by step instructions on how to do this. Maybe some of the more experienced people should PM each other to devise somthing?
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Post by James of LinHood on Aug 18, 2006 9:03:17 GMT -5
I have a feeling that there will be enough interest to make a detailed step by step instructions on how to do this. Maybe some of the more experienced people should PM each other to devise something? Excellent post. That's a great idea. I have great interest in making properly synced Rifftrax DVDs. I feel that I probably could get through with your abbreviated walkthrough but I'd be much better off with a step-by-step guide. I'm not ripping your walkthrough. I'm just a novice when it comes to messing with DVD audio files. I'll have to download those software programs tonight and mess around with them.
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Post by gammer on Aug 18, 2006 9:14:56 GMT -5
Somthing I forgot to mention about GoldWave... You will need an MP3 codec installed. I think they recommend the Lame MP3 codec and they provide a link to it. Also, you will need an AC3 codec intalled. If you cant find one on www.videohelp.com , then PM me for one.
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Post by gammer on Aug 18, 2006 13:08:47 GMT -5
First I copy the movie to my hard drive using a decrypter program we all know about. Then I pick the IFO file that contains only the movie and soundtrack and convert this file to AVI. format using ConvertMovie. I then use Nero's "make your own movie" feature to edit the MP3 Rifftrax at the point that they say "push play"by moving it to the audio track line and using the cut and edit feature. I then pull the AVI movie file I created onto its slot in Nero and sync up the movie and rifftrax by moving the edited rifftrax file until it syncs up perfectly to the movie. I then move foward and burn the DVD. Works fine for me. except for the decrypter all of this software I bought. I hate to tell you this. But by converting the file to AVI, you are losing quality in the video, albeit, not much...but none the less it will lose quality. If possible, get the video off the DVD by itself and dont touch it. Just play with the audio files and then mux it back together with the original video file. Or, if you are happy with the way you are doing it, then pay no attention to what I just wrote...
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Post by mrtorso on Aug 18, 2006 13:33:25 GMT -5
First I copy the movie to my hard drive using a decrypter program we all know about. Then I pick the IFO file that contains only the movie and soundtrack and convert this file to AVI. format using ConvertMovie. I then use Nero's "make your own movie" feature to edit the MP3 Rifftrax at the point that they say "push play"by moving it to the audio track line and using the cut and edit feature. I then pull the AVI movie file I created onto its slot in Nero and sync up the movie and rifftrax by moving the edited rifftrax file until it syncs up perfectly to the movie. I then move foward and burn the DVD. Works fine for me. except for the decrypter all of this software I bought. How long does it take to transcode the AVI file? You could get it done much faster by just demuxing and using mpeg and ac3 files. --Ian
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Post by doctorz on Aug 18, 2006 15:10:05 GMT -5
Yes, I do lose some quality converting the file, but it all fits so nicely onto the DVD. Also I get to tone down the movie audio and punch up the Rifftrax just to be cute. It does take a while to convert the IFO file, but I usually start it in the morning then come back in the afternoon to finish up. I need a hobby so time is not of the essence.
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Post by mrbasehart on Aug 20, 2006 18:49:42 GMT -5
OK. The ripping parts were easy, as was the conversion of the sound files for synching, but here I'm a little stuck. I tried using Audacity to begin with (as I'm quite familiar with it already), but synching the two together became extraordinarily frustrating, as when I'd synched the first Disembaudio line perfectly, the second would be almost a minute out of synch! I'm using PAL soundtracks for both, so this shouldn't be a problem. As for Goldwave, I have no idea about how to start synching the two tracks together, and a quick search on the web gave me nothing but more links to other programs. I feel like I'm almost there except for this damn soundtrack thing.
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Post by pluckedturkey on Aug 20, 2006 21:03:14 GMT -5
thanks for posting the tips guys and gals. this is not an intuitive thing and all the help you offer us nOObs is greatly appreciated. i am struggling through one attempt right now. so far so good i have stumbled but i am doing well. thanks again for the tips.
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Post by mrbasehart on Aug 21, 2006 10:40:15 GMT -5
Well, I've used Sony Vegas to mix the soundtrack files together and that works fine. However, having followed all your instructions I seem not to have an M2V file, but an MP2 one. I went into Tmpgenc DVD author and started making a Dual Sided DVD (figuring I could reshrink it before burning), but it says it'll take about 15 hours to convert everything! Is that right?
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Post by Rotting Elvis on Aug 21, 2006 16:39:06 GMT -5
ah. this is exactly what I've been trying to figure out. now all I have to do is get the movies, or maybe I should just offer someone proof I've downloaded the rifftrax and give them a couple of bucks to mail the DVD to me.
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Post by Hugh Beaumont on Aug 21, 2006 19:07:47 GMT -5
Does anyone know of a good program to rip a DVD into an avi file? I've been having some trouble finding one. I tried avi.NET, but it wouldn't work, for some reason.
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Post by gammer on Aug 21, 2006 20:00:37 GMT -5
Does anyone know of a good program to rip a DVD into an avi file? I've been having some trouble finding one. I tried avi.NET, but it wouldn't work, for some reason. DVD2AVI will do it. First you need to rip the movie to your HDD with Smart Ripper, then open it up in DVD2AVI. Download it Here. You can find all the info on how to do this on www.videohelp.comjust have to dig for it.
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Post by pluckedturkey on Aug 23, 2006 20:36:14 GMT -5
most of the solutions proposed ( without converting the file to an avi and losing quality) involve cost. can any of you mention some hardware specs you have on the machines you are using this on and tell me how smoothly it runs. i am running a amd 64 fx 51 800mhz with a 1GB of ram. windows xp serpak 2 up to date.i have a dvd rom and a relatively new benq dvd burner. i have run into issues with dvd shrink before not allowing me to reproduce my tv show back ups that i normally do. i had to basically reinstall windows last time to get every thing running again smoothly with nero. ( nero ver 6.6.1.4)
money is a concern. that is why i am hesitant to go out and buy software i will not be able to work with. thanks all the info and steps are good i am following them but am stuck after having converted the ac3's to wav's :-(
thanks for the help and advice
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