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Post by Mighty Jack on Feb 10, 2010 0:16:00 GMT -5
I just went on my bands myspace page and they've added stats, which is very cool. I see people from Spain and Italy listened to a few songs. It astounds me that people all over the world are reading and listening.
I better be careful with my blog, that stuff I said about Mumms, about the thing with the deal... gee I'd hate that to get back to him.
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Post by The Mad Plumber on May 22, 2011 10:18:32 GMT -5
Okay, I'm reviving this thread because I have more to ask on this topic. As far as whatever Dad used Facebook for, I'm not sure. However, I don't think he used it much and he's probably outright abandoned it now. I'm pretty sure he didn't use it to upload pictures. I think at most, he just used it to see what his brother and sisters were posting. Anyway, here's why I'm bringing up this topic again. It strikes me that, for some reason, websites seem obligated to get a Facebook page and / or Twitter account. Why? Why don't I just go to your website? What the hell are you doing on Facebook or Twitter that is so damn important? I invested a fairly sizable amount of money to have a website, as well as a good amount of time programming and sculpting it to fit both my own needs and to be attractive enough to visitors. And I still need to continue modifying it and improving it. However, if I'm to judge by these sites, apparently my site is nothing unless I get a Facebook page or a Twitter account. It's already enough work to try to manage my own website. Now I have to manage more? I suppose you can deride me for not keeping up with what the latest technology is. Without knowing for sure, it strikes me that Facebook and Twitter are fads (Twitter in particular). Why would I go to Facebook? I go to CD Universe to buy things. I go to The Daily Show to watch videos. These sites seem pretty nicely organized as they are already. Why do they need these extra accounts and why am I supposed to follow you on them? Like I said, I don't keep up with technology. When I recently met up with some friends of mine, they were all sporting these Gameboy-sized devices that allowed them to check a variety of things, whilst I just had a modest phone to which I use for little more than making phone calls. Do people check these things at work? It's been a while since I've worked in an office environment, but last time I did, they frowned heavily upon playing around on the internet ... even during your break.
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Post by Trumpy's Magic Snout on May 23, 2011 18:36:32 GMT -5
Most tend to post on Twitter a link to something new on the website, basically using it as a news feed. The Facebook page seems to be a place where fans can act like a community, pretty much the same as a forum. Some websites use them in more creative ways, or just let people that work on them post random thoughts that don't fit on the website. That's how the Nintendo magazine NGamer that I read uses social media. It also has a site and a forum but uses Facebook and Twitter as well.
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Post by Afgncaap5 on May 23, 2011 22:53:34 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't go to website that often just to see what "all my favorite companies" are up to. Same thing for Facebook: that's for friends and families, I don't need to clutter it by "liking" a fast food chain or upcoming movie.
However with Twitter, since I'm going to be reading the updates between my updates anyway, I can get a quick snippet of information. It'll give me enough to know if I'm interested or not, and if I am then maybe I'll take the time to follow their link. Faster than a website, less clutter than an email. Just read it, decide if it's something I want to read about in more depth, and move on to see what my friends, families, and stalked celebrities are up to.
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Post by mummifiedstalin on May 24, 2011 0:25:01 GMT -5
Okay, I'm reviving this thread because I have more to ask on this topic. As far as whatever Dad used Facebook for, I'm not sure. However, I don't think he used it much and he's probably outright abandoned it now. I'm pretty sure he didn't use it to upload pictures. I think at most, he just used it to see what his brother and sisters were posting. Anyway, here's why I'm bringing up this topic again. It strikes me that, for some reason, websites seem obligated to get a Facebook page and / or Twitter account. Why? Why don't I just go to your website? What the hell are you doing on Facebook or Twitter that is so damn important? I invested a fairly sizable amount of money to have a website, as well as a good amount of time programming and sculpting it to fit both my own needs and to be attractive enough to visitors. And I still need to continue modifying it and improving it. However, if I'm to judge by these sites, apparently my site is nothing unless I get a Facebook page or a Twitter account. It's already enough work to try to manage my own website. Now I have to manage more? I suppose you can deride me for not keeping up with what the latest technology is. Without knowing for sure, it strikes me that Facebook and Twitter are fads (Twitter in particular). Why would I go to Facebook? I go to CD Universe to buy things. I go to The Daily Show to watch videos. These sites seem pretty nicely organized as they are already. Why do they need these extra accounts and why am I supposed to follow you on them? Like I said, I don't keep up with technology. When I recently met up with some friends of mine, they were all sporting these Gameboy-sized devices that allowed them to check a variety of things, whilst I just had a modest phone to which I use for little more than making phone calls. Do people check these things at work? It's been a while since I've worked in an office environment, but last time I did, they frowned heavily upon playing around on the internet ... even during your break. Advertising. Up to the minute. Sometimes the second. I'm not being sarcastic. Smart phones have made social media (Twitter and Facebook primarily, but the web in general) a way to garner buzz. Most media outlets have figured out that the way to maintain "brand awareness" is about just constantly throwing themselves in your face. People do in fact check Twitter and Facebook on a more-than-regular basis. A few touches and swipes on my phone, and I can scan Twitter and Facebook feeds in about 30 seconds to see who/what has posted, even if I don't actually follow up on the content. And those impressions stay with you. So let's say a company gets you to subscribe to their Twitter feed. If they make sure that they post something every hour, no matter how trivial, at the very least, your eyes are going to pass by that brand each time you're bored and bring up Twitter to quickly scan through what's on there. Even if you don't click a link to a substantive blog post or whatever, even if you don't actually read the tweet (notice that's a real word now...doesn't even require scare quotes?), it stays in your mind. Advertising gold, and you voluntarily signed up for it! I intentionally don't sign up for those things for that very reason. But...there are a few that I keep because they're savvy and offer various contests or deals to people only on those feeds. And since I want that stuff or decided for whatever silly reason that I wanted some random discount, I see their shilling, even if I'm really just trying to find a picture of my newborn baby nephew. I scroll past their crap along the way to what I want, but their purpose is served as the brand is once again seared into my consciousness. Devious, but it makes perfect sense. Edit: and they're not fads. Twitter itself, or even Facebook, may pass out of favor, but that *kind* of thing is here to stay. And it will be replaced by something that's easier to access, easier to contribute to, and even easier to digest. So it'll be "worse," according to your criteria. Just today, I had three (yes, 3) conversations that started with "Did you see what I posted on Facebook?" I'm honestly not making that up for this post. That's become a regular conversation starter at my son's soccer practice, baseball games, PTO and school events, etc. We parents are on the move and communicating about everything (serious and silly) through Facebook and Twitter. I've actually become used to the experience of continuing a conversation in "real life" that actually began on Facebook or Twitter without the slightest acknowledgement that we're now talking face to face whereas, last night, we were just typing stuff. Here's the thing about social media: you can't really take a principled stance against it *and* compete with it. Its power is that it *PERVADES*. It's like nuclear weapons in the 80's: if you take a principled stance against them, you become irrelevant.
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Post by Mighty Jack on May 24, 2011 4:19:17 GMT -5
I don't do Twitter (it's just spam - famous athlete tells you he's at the airport, and it sucks- type of thing. Yawn) and I've abandoned Myspace. But I do have my Facebook, which I check up on at least a few times a week. And I do have a few of my favorite things attached to it, such as Cinematic Titanic, a few authors, musicians as well.
I don't have a smart phone or any of those do-dads, so Facebook is my source for quick updates. I just found out my when my favorite author's new book is due out, and put a hold on it at the library. I also got updates on whats being released to Bluray (Citizen Kane and Hitchcock's the Birds... woo hoo) as well as a link to a CT interview. It's a quick way for me to have this info, without the spammy Twitter fights that crop up and get discussed non-stop on sports radio or whatnot anyway.
I'm getting older and at that point where I just don't give a darn about keeping up to date on ALL the new tech (like when people tell me that one day Blu-ray will be replaced by yadda-yadda-yadda- --- I smile and nod and say, "that's nice and by then I'll be dead and I wont care) So you know, I'm not some guy with all the new toys. And yet I still find Facebook a useful tool for keeping up with things I like as well as a means to see what's up with my friends and family.
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Post by Trumpy's Magic Snout on May 24, 2011 5:59:08 GMT -5
I tend to just follow comedians on Twitter and it's interesting to watch how they use it, sort of like it's become their notebook and they're willing to share it with the world. Obviously it's also funny as hell.
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Post by Mighty Jack on May 24, 2011 6:16:40 GMT -5
That's an excellent point. They would be fun to follow.
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Post by mummifiedstalin on May 24, 2011 9:58:40 GMT -5
I tend to just follow comedians on Twitter and it's interesting to watch how they use it, sort of like it's become their notebook and they're willing to share it with the world. Obviously it's also funny as hell. Steve Martin's Twitter account is flat out awesome.
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Post by siamesesin on May 24, 2011 18:56:29 GMT -5
There's a ton of funny comedians on Twitter, including the MST alum. My personal favorite is Patton Oswalt. Always busts me up.
Facebook is good for me since I know so many people scattered in different areas of the planet. Cheaper than cell minutes.
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Post by Mighty Jack on May 25, 2011 5:59:47 GMT -5
Well now I have a reason to sign up with Twitter. Comedy here I come And Mums is right, this is the way of the world now. And It'll expand from here. It sounds like it might be overwhelming you MP, if so, just tell yourself that you own the tech, it doesn't own you. I'll turn off my cell phone and some folks act like I'm nuts, why would you do that. It's like they are afraid they'll miss something. But for me -- Well maybe it's just because I had a book and some iced tea and I didn't want to be bugged by the world. I didn't know that was weird, but I guess it is.
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Post by mstie2912 on May 27, 2011 13:33:21 GMT -5
I had a Facebook account a couple of years ago just for a short period before it exploded in popularity. I had nothing to say and got tired of seeing people's party photos. Same with Twitter and MySpace. I guess social networking isn't for everyone...oh wait. I'm anti-social. That's why!
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Post by Afgncaap5 on Jul 11, 2011 13:21:06 GMT -5
People do in fact check Twitter and Facebook on a more-than-regular basis. A few touches and swipes on my phone, and I can scan Twitter and Facebook feeds in about 30 seconds to see who/what has posted, even if I don't actually follow up on the content. And those impressions stay with you. So let's say a company gets you to subscribe to their Twitter feed. If they make sure that they post something every hour, no matter how trivial, at the very least, your eyes are going to pass by that brand each time you're bored and bring up Twitter to quickly scan through what's on there. Even if you don't click a link to a substantive blog post or whatever, even if you don't actually read the tweet (notice that's a real word now...doesn't even require scare quotes?), it stays in your mind. Advertising gold, and you voluntarily signed up for it! I'd argue, however, that it's still an art that needs refinement. I followed a company once to keep updated on a particular piece of news that I wanted. And after the news thing ended, sure, I was seriously tempted to just let it be there. But every two or three days, the company's mascot would post some inane, irrelevant, annoying piece of info I didn't need. Yeah, I don't follow them anymore. If they want my mindless observations as a form of free advertising to myself, then by golly they'd better make me enjoy it more.
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Post by mummifiedstalin on Jul 11, 2011 23:44:07 GMT -5
Absolutely. They still have to master the medium, but "that's just details." Heh.
So: Google+
AM I RIGHT!?!?
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