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Post by Truck Farmer on Feb 10, 2010 22:29:45 GMT -5
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Post by siamesesin on Apr 1, 2010 13:11:19 GMT -5
The only thing missing is that scream!
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Post by solgroupie on Apr 1, 2010 15:07:42 GMT -5
oh man, that was AWESOME.
BAM! "c'mere!"
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Post by afriendlychicken on Apr 1, 2010 17:08:19 GMT -5
^^^^And he's using a big carrot to bash 'em with. How could I have missed this thread! I love the Muppets! Own all the DVD's, I do. Waiting for season four, where for art thou?
If the show was on today, I guarantee you they would do a parody of MST3K, or have Crow and Tom Servo as guests. Ah, to hear Kermit say, "tonight's special guests, Crow and Tom Servo, Yea." We can dream.
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Post by torgortega on Apr 2, 2010 22:43:57 GMT -5
I'd love to see Statler and Waldorf as guests on Rifftrax, too ban Henson and Hunt have passed away
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Post by audreyii on Apr 2, 2010 23:37:49 GMT -5
I love what they did with Stand By Me....although the Timon & Pumbaa rendition was funnier.
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Post by mccloud on Apr 3, 2010 9:05:17 GMT -5
The only thing missing is that scream! Muppets a la Donnie Darko.
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Post by siamesesin on Apr 3, 2010 11:01:52 GMT -5
I'd love to see Statler and Waldorf as guests on Rifftrax, too ban Henson and Hunt have passed away Brian can be a little more twisted than his dad ever was. It might make it more interesting. Then again, I'd rather hear Frank Oz on a Rifftrax. That would be fun.
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Post by audreyii on Apr 3, 2010 18:59:33 GMT -5
Frank Oz?
The man who turned Little Shop of Horrors into a movie...AND CHANGED THE ENDING?
No thank you.
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Post by Mitchell on Apr 3, 2010 22:32:57 GMT -5
Your angst is misplaced Audrey. Frank Oz is on record as preferring the original ending, along with many cast members. The ending was changed at the studio's behest after it didn't fare well with test audiences.
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Post by audreyii on Apr 11, 2010 1:24:23 GMT -5
www.avclub.com/articles/frank-oz,14141/ AVC: You talked about your instincts being darker, more subversive. In the original ending of Little Shop Of Horrors, apparently everyone dies. Were you surprised that you got away with filming it? FO: No, David Geffen was very supportive of how Howard Ashman and I wanted to do the original ending. David said, "You can't do that, you can't kill your leads," but he supported us. Two years later, we killed our leads and the audience hated us for it. They loved those leads, because in a stage play, you kill the leads and they come out for a bow—in a movie, they don't come out for a bow, they're dead. And the audience loved those people, and they hated us for it. It got very, very, very exceedingly low scores as a result, so we had no choice but to re-shoot it. And I believed it was the right thing to do. I was unhappy that Howard and I couldn't solve how to use a million dollars worth of great B-movie shots and footage, but we had no choice. AVC: Would it be safe to say that you preferred the original ending? FO: It's not that I preferred the ending, no. Our job is to entertain an audience, it's not just to do it for the director. You might as well sit in a white room and look at the movie for the rest of your life—it's ridiculous. I was frustrated that I couldn't use the ending, use the special effects with the ending, that's all. I'm not happy with the happy ending and I'm not happy with the original ending, because it doesn't work out, everybody is unhappy in the theater. So there's no real answer at that point. AVC: You want the audience to love your leads, but if you succeed at that— FO: You have to succeed, and then once you succeed, you can't kill them. No, I take that back, if you succeed and you kill them, you've got to kill them in such a way that the audience feels satisfied—that he died for a higher cause or something like that, like the guy who jumps on a grenade and saves his buddies. That's a different kind of death, [and] we didn't have that kind of death. ...The REAL audience would've appreciated the film for having a central message [greed=bad], rather than being a random string of unrelated events. The Christmas family comedy demographic isn't what I'd use to judge "what the audience wants". And from what I've read, supposedly Oz had already gone overbudget before the re-shoots. He isn't completely at fault, but he's trying to make it look like he's in control. And he might've actually been. If the decision came down to him, and he chose the "more marketable" ending...that would explain why he's so nervous about speaking of the incident. In this situation, he would've succumbed to the very thing the film supposedly stood against. MY GOD I'M RAMBLY TONIGHT.
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Post by GProopdog on Apr 11, 2010 9:30:18 GMT -5
Man, you *really* are interested in this whole ordeal with the movie dude.
This is not meant in a bad way, just saying.....
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Post by solgroupie on Apr 11, 2010 10:54:04 GMT -5
wasn't this thread supposed to be about muppets, or something??
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Post by audreyii on Apr 11, 2010 14:08:10 GMT -5
Man, you *really* are interested in this whole ordeal with the movie dude. This is not meant in a bad way, just saying..... I'm a huge Little Shop fan. And considering I have no social life, I can devote as much time as I want to researching this crap.
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Post by callipygias on Apr 11, 2010 14:15:49 GMT -5
Sounds great! With that kind of enthusiasm you should start a forum for it. That'd give you and others like you a great place to post about it! That'd be sweet.
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