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Post by TheNewMads on Mar 31, 2011 11:59:38 GMT -5
Your analysis of the title is absurd. Every schoolchild knows there aren't 500 days in a year (which is why the parentheses are in the title, because there aren't 500 days in a summer), and that was a gag to the premise of the movie. We're watching a man who was infatuated with a girl for 500 days, but it wasn't meant to be. The presence of Autumn at the end of the film is less a play on seasons, but a intelligent display of the truth that no matter what happens, there is always life after it, just as the seasons move forward. It was a message, and a simple one. I picked up on it rather fine. Do I dispute your right to hate to hate the movie? I do not. But you made the false claim that there's no one in the world that genuinely appreciates the film. I personally despise Sin City and District 9, but I do not deny the fact that many people adore them. (500) Days of Summer has a large and loyal fanbase, as well. i wasn't disputing the fact that the movie has a loyal fan base. if it has an 8 out of 10 on imdb, it rather obviously has a fan base. that's what i was poking fun at; it's pretty obvious i don't ACTUALLY think all the people who gave it a good star rating are zooey deschanel's relatives. ;D i continue to be befuddled by the season thing. i get what 500 days of "summer," the character, means, but what does 500 days of "summer," the season, refer to? for a double-entendre to be figurative it also has to have a literal interpretation, but it just doesn't parse out in any coherent way, and yet the moviemaker chose to make it the focal concept of his film. if he wanted to symbolize life going on (and is that concept really so unique or original?), surely there would have been a way to do that that doesn't introduce so much cognitive dissonance. have the male lead be an aspiring astronomer and name the women after constellations. (then dress her in only one pantsuit and have them both roll down a hill while running away from a giant spider.) have him be an aspiring historian (not that aspiring historians exist, lol) and name the women after prominent figures from adjacent historical periods. also, architecture. the romantic lead was supposed to be an aspiring architect of prodigious talent, but all his drawings are perspective drawings. architects don't do perspective drawings, they do god's-eye blueprints. i'm certain that a talented architect would appreciate the aesthetics of a well-designed building viewed from street level, but the movie kept presenting us with the male lead doing these perspective drawings and trying to convince us this was evidence of his architectural gifts. could they have revised the movie to make him an artist and then use those drawings as evidence of his skill at THAT? absolutely! but as evidence of architectural skill it completely fails. also, i've just plain become skeptical of movies being told out of order. it was interesting at first but now i'm coming to think that it's more often a gimmick simply to make a simple story seem more nuanced by making it harder to decipher. if you took all the out-of-order scenes and simply rearranged them IN order, do you think it would still be as interesting? or would it reveal itself to be a boy-meets-girl, boy-loses-girl, boy-gets-girl story only without the boy-gets-girl part? if it's any consolation, and despite all this argumentativeness on my part i promise i'm not trying to make you mad, i did greatly enjoy disliking "(500) Days of Summer," and wound up watching it twice solely in order to ferret out the myriad of logical inconsistencies and flaws in it.
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Post by siamesesin on Mar 31, 2011 12:14:59 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of the flick either, although to be fair my opinion of it has no connection to its throw-away title. (Torg knows me and sappy flicks don't square.)
Ooh! I have an idea! Their Romance section is sorely lacking, especially considering the sheer volume of crap the genre contains. They should do more chick flicks! The entire Meg Ryan! ROAST NORA EPHRON IN EFFIGY!
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Post by Torgo on Mar 31, 2011 12:15:34 GMT -5
No comment. I can't understand any viewpoint you're trying to make and I'm not even going to try.
For the record, I'm not mad. But when you try and defend a point of view on the film by picking apart a title with analysis that's asinine at best (I'm not going to explain it to you any further, because it's obvious you don't get it because you just don't want to. The title of the movie is 100% clear) and without actually giving a valid reason or opinion on anything the movie was about, I just find incoherence difficult to discuss with.
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Post by TheNewMads on Mar 31, 2011 12:38:08 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of the flick either, although to be fair my opinion of it has no connection to its throw-away title. (Torg knows me and sappy flicks don't square.) Ooh! I have an idea! Their Romance section is sorely lacking, especially considering the sheer volume of crap the genre contains. They should do more chick flicks! The entire Meg Ryan! ROAST NORA EPHRON IN EFFIGY! oh, man, i got the perfect one! well, "(500) Days of Summer" is actually the perfect one, but i think i've made my case on that as well as i can -- "addicted to love"! that's the romcom revenge flick where meg ryan tries to break out of typecast and be a tough biker chick. and, like, doesn't do it that well. lots of chances to mock meg ryan, america's sweetheart, and also enrage matthew broderick, and thereby get the RTers in a ton of trouble and rocket them into the headlines in a way the joe don baker and dennis miller backlashes could never do for ms3k. that's what RT needs, is a good, juicy controversy. they're getting warmer with the rebecca black thing but they need to come at some real sacred cows. i'm talking your meg ryans, your zooeys, your marky marks. come after 'em and keep on comin'!
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Post by siamesesin on Mar 31, 2011 13:04:10 GMT -5
I like Marky Mark. I miss afternoon tea with The Funky Bunch.
I think they could do anything with Mel Gibson as half the jokes would write themselves. They could do "What Women Want" and piss off Helen Hunt too. Better yet, do a double feature with "As Good As It Gets" and bill it as the "Crazy Dude/Waspish Women" Creature Feature.
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Post by TheNewMads on Mar 31, 2011 13:18:20 GMT -5
"as good as it gets" would be super. that movie was way overrated. i haven't seen "what women want" but feel comfortable assuming it's awful.
if rifftrax wanted to kick helen hunt around, they could also do "dr. t and the women." an utterly dreadful movie by the utterly wonderful robert altman. they could sully altman's legacy for further controversy points.
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Post by imapotato on Apr 4, 2011 16:15:14 GMT -5
Torgo is right, the new mads be wrong RE: the title of that movie and it's place within the plot.
Besides I love Zooey! Damn she does something to my nether regions. She was great in Hitchhiker's as well, which considering was not a terrible remake and actually slightly above average.
Any RomCom would do BUT how about Jennifer Lopez + Matthew McCheese ? Wedding Planner...RIPE for riffing
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Post by TheNewMads on Apr 6, 2011 8:31:48 GMT -5
lol. I've got nothing for anyone who thinks the Hitchhiker movie was anything other than a travesty against god and humanity. i'm surprised douglas adams didn't return from the dead and go on a killing spree after that movie came out. it was a sad culmination to a long and unpleasant struggle on his part to get a decent movie of "hitchhikers" made, which shouldn't have been that hard. (read "salmon of doubt" for some hint of what he went through with disney on that movie.) but of course, they had to wait until he died and then butcher it. very sad. zooey was pretty good casting for "the happening," i think, because her vacuous, wide-eyed gig really went well with the hypnotism, brainwashing-related element to that film. she was horrible as Trillian, because the idea with trillian was she acted ditsy but was actually ferociously intelligent. with deschanel, however, what you see is what you get, which ain't much.
torgo might be right about the title of "(500) Days," i dunno. i couldn't figure out what he was saying.
zooey is indeed physically attractive, if you like that sort of thing. that's not really an uncommon trait in hollywood actresses, though, and doesn't really make up for her utter lack of talent. just my opinion.
i'm with you on wedding planner, though. that movie was HORRID. and i'd like definitely like to see RT do more romcoms generally.
on a semi-related note, i watched voodoo man the other night, and am now struck that this is the third RTed movie i've seen recently in which hypnotism and brainwashing figure highly (the others being "maniac" and "the happening.") is this some sort of kink on mike, kevin and bill's part? hmm.
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Post by callipygias on Apr 6, 2011 10:05:54 GMT -5
zooey is indeed physically attractive, if you like that sort of thing. Like a fine-grained hardwood.
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Post by TheNewMads on Apr 6, 2011 11:08:28 GMT -5
zooey is indeed physically attractive, if you like that sort of thing. Like a fine-grained hardwood. and about as nimble and expressive!
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Post by TheNewMads on Apr 29, 2011 12:43:53 GMT -5
i've got one: threads! a post-nuclear holocaust movie a la "the day after," but somehow at least 20 times as dreary, if you can believe it. and yet i'm only a few minutes in and i've seen a couple of opportunities for riffs (such as the young girl who is inexplicably blasting a church choir through her walkman like it was cindy lauper). seriously, though, this is absolutely THE MOST DEPRESSING MOVIE I HAVE EVER SEEN. it makes "the road" look like "love at first bite." maybe RT would like a challenge! video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023790698427111488#
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Post by mrmeadows on May 2, 2011 23:23:44 GMT -5
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Post by Mighty Jack on May 3, 2011 0:58:47 GMT -5
EDIT: it got 8 out of 10 on imdb but don't let that fool you. it's a horrible movie that fails on every level. the people who voted it up are probably just zooey deschanel's horrid relatives. False. (500) Days of Summer is a terrific movie; well acted, terrifically directed, and hilarious. You are 100% correct sir. That was one of the most sharply scripted movies of the year. As wise, funny and mature a look at love and heartache as has been filmed. (and I doubt the 178 fresh reviews at RT are all relative based either) As for what I'd like them to do? At the risk of sounding like a broken record, they need to get cracking and tackle Jonah Hex. I think that could be a fun one.
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Post by Mighty Jack on May 3, 2011 23:05:28 GMT -5
Gaaaaa! I just watched Green Hornet. I hope they do this and I hope they are merciless (angry Bill mode... engaged) Kiss my arse Seth Rogan!!
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Post by siamesesin on May 7, 2011 9:58:39 GMT -5
Atlas Shrugged
Then again, I don't believe in torture.
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