That's Bonnie Hammer and any channel executive who turns an enjoyable niche channel into just another channel -- SyFy, MTV, AMC, TV Land, you name it. WWE wanted a show to groom young talent, that's cool, but it should've been on USA, and it should NEVER have been called ECW.
I've lost interest in the WWE. Too little focus on wrestling. Still watch Impact Wrestling. Its not great but it is closer to the NWA/WCW that I grew up watching.
The main problem that Impact Wrestling has is that they'll start an interesting storyline out.....then end it in a ridiculous and idiotic manner. It's quite sad, they honestly have the talent to be a great wrestling organization, but it's always the case of "one step forward, two steps back" for them..
I just mentioned "Masked Decisions" in the Now Reading thread.
So anyway... I'll be checking out Extreme Rules at a local casino that has free showings of WWE PPVs. Always fun to see with a big crowd.
And I'm happy to see Ring of Honor alumni doing well. CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, and now Claudio Castagnoli/Antonio Cesaro debuted on "Smackdown" this week. Speaking of Bryan, a local promoter met him at a local Whole Foods. Gotta shop there more often.
Post by Trumpy's Magic Snout on May 13, 2012 9:00:46 GMT -5
My passion for the wrestling has been rekindled over this past year to two years. Had fallen out of watching for a long time, now back in hard. A number of things have contributed to this, including finding out people I work with are all into it so we talk about it all the time, the rise of the likes of CM Punk and Daniel Bryan, and the fact that Scotland is starting to become a bit of a hotbed for wrestling.
Firstly the only FM radio show dedicated to wrestling in the UK emanates from Barrhead (The One Wrestling Show) and listening to the group of comedians and wrestlers talk passionately and intelligently about it has been a wonderful thing. Plus through that I found out that there at least five promotions operating in the country, all to a high standard. In fact AJ Styles in making an appearance at a show down in Ayr to fight Noam Dahr, mainly because Styles rates the guy so highly. Probably the best one though is ICW (Insane Championship Wrestling) which is a bit like a Scottish ECW but without the stupid violence of other hardcore copyists.
The best bit of this all is that I'm now going to wrestling shows, catching up on what I missed in my childhood. The WWF played Glasgow once, back in 1992, when I was a kid and I couldn't afford to go. Now they play every six months and so we all get drunk, go, and have a great time cheering the baddies and booing the goodies. This hit a peak in April when I went down to London for the Raw and Smackdown TV tapings at the O2 Arena. Bloody amazing it was!
But the best show I've been to was ICW's Up In Smoke. Basically they put on a show once a month in one of Glasgow's nightclubs, usually drawing a crowd of about 500, which they tape and show over a number of weeks on a kind of public access TV channel in Europe. It means the shows are like the company's version of Pay Per Views. The quality of wrestling is great and the fans are absolutely hilarious with their drunken chanting. Basically it's a three hour show for a tenner then you get to go to the after party. Scottish wrestlers are big "party people".
In short, bloody loving my wrestling again, and with my baseball team being awful and my football (soccer) team possibly going into liquidation it's perfectly timed.
It always comes crashing down around your ears. At least they may have hurt their bums on my monitors.
I used to be a wrestling fan a long time ago. Probably gave up watching in the early 90's. As funny as it sounds, wrestling became too unbelievable for me with waaaaay too many high spots in matches and the hardcore stuff that is so routine now.
I grew up in southern Ontario watching wrestling from Maple Leaf Gardens, Luis Martinez's promotion in Buffalo and sometimes Ed Farhat's promotion in Detroit. Back then guys like The Sheik scared the livin' bejeezuz out of a young boy like me watching this mayhem in the early 70's.
Remember when a piledriver was illegal? Now people get up from them and keep going. What were once finishing moves are just a part of the match and to me that took all the buildup and drama away.
Cage matches, death matches, ladder matches, dog collar matches etc. were such big deals back then and now with hardcore wrestling, nothing to me is a big deal anymore.
I guess Vince McMahon ruined wrestling for me by killing a lot of territories back in the day. Also when he had to break kayfabe and come out and call wrestling "sports entertainment", that marked the end of an era for me. Sure I knew wrestling for the most part was a "work" but something about admitting it publicly just took a lot of the juice out of it.
I'm glad a lot of you still enjoy the product today but I really miss the glory days of wrestling back in the 70's and 80's when it was "real".
Post by Skyroniter on Jan 19, 2013 16:33:29 GMT -5
I am a fan of the old territory days. Vince (who was raised about 20 miles from here) ruined it. I liked guys coming and going, it kept them fresh. Now the WWE "superstars" wrestle for years with nowhere else to go and nothing new to do. Mostly I download old MidAtlantic and Florida NWA when in the mood.
Post by siamesesin on Jan 19, 2013 17:57:34 GMT -5
I'm kind of like Frameous. Child of the '80s wrestling-we watched it all the time, even adored that Hulkamania cartoon. I had an Andre the Giant poster up in my room along with the horse pictures. My brother is a devoted fan to this day so I have a lot of tertiary contact with it still. I know just enough to know what's going on.
Oddly, I've always been less a fan of the wrestlers in character as I have out. In my opinion, by celebrity category wrestling has a higher percentage of intelligent, humble, and kind performers than most others. The sheer volume of charity work alone is staggering. And all that at very real physical risk.
I find wrestling books from back in the day to be fun reads. These guys went at breakneck speed both in and out the ring. The shaped their characters and had say in where the would perform. I've probably read 12 to 15 so far. Scott Teal's are my favorites.
I used to be a wrestling fanatic back in high school. It was during the hey day of the Attitude Era of the WWE. I really only watched because of two wrestlers, Mick Foley and Stone Cold Steve Austin. Mick Foley would take such brutal punishment, it was really quite amazing to watch. Getting thrown off the top of 25 foot high cages, vicious chair shots to his head while his hands were cuffed behind him, barbed wire baseball bats, landing on thousands of thumb tacks. This guy really did it all. It is such a shame that since the death of Chris Benoit, the WWE became all pussified and won't allow anything extreme whatsoever. Stone Cold would do the same thing week after week. He would come down to the ring, stun Vince McMahon and then drink a crap ton of beer. Even though it was the same thing week after week, I absolutely loved every second of it. Their has not been another superstar quite like Stone Cold and I doubt their ever will be. In today's wrestling, we have wrestlers like John Cena who is a complete joke. I hardly watch wrestling at all anymore but from what I have seen, really sucks. CM Punk is the only real saving grace. I've heard rumors that Stone Cold might come back to face CM Punk. Would LOVE to see that, but for now it's just a rumor.