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Post by Mod City on Mar 1, 2017 11:10:22 GMT -5
Sooo... Is Eugene REALLY Negan? Or is he going to blow the whole place to holy hell from the inside? I have a hard time believing he's jumped into the deep end completely - Negan did kill Abraham right in front of him, after all - but I can understand why Eugene would be somewhat taken with this new place. Safety, probably a comparable level of respect to what he got back in Alexandria, an Atari 2600, pickles. As he acknowledged at the end of the episode, he's a coward, and he might just side with wherever allows him the best chance at survival. But we'll see. I've enjoyed the last three episodes quite a bit. The second-half season premiere was probably the strongest for me. Had a nice brisk pace, more discussion and conversation from our group instead of constant groveling. Visiting the Kingdom was cool, even if the result wasn't that surprising. Last week's episode was also pretty good. The junkyard people were somewhat interesting, and while I've heard all kinds of things about the Whisperers from the comics, I'm hoping they don't delve into that. Not because it doesn't sound like a great plot arc, but because I'm tired of the comic readers talking about them. I also liked the reunion between Daryl and Carol, even though it was frustrating that he didn't tell her what happened. Same can be said for Morgan, but to a lesser extent. It was too bad that Richard was planning to sacrifice Carol to get things rolling with the Saviors, but I still like him. He's a war hawk spark that is failing to catch fire, for some reason. I hope he sticks around for when the war starts. The last episode was good, but not as good as the previous two. They're trying so hard to make Dwight an interesting character, and he is an interesting character, but I don't think they're getting it where they want it to go. Again, we'll see. His interaction with Eugene should be telling on which way things are going to go for him. A few last points: * The Saviors have an Atari 2600, and of course Eugene digs it! As a retro gamer I have to admit, those scenes made my night. * The actors who played the wives were very good. One thing I wondered - was the suicidal wife really suicidal or was it all part of the ruse to get Eugene to make the poison pills. That, and was the whole pill thing just a test designed by Negan? I wasn't 100 percent clear on that when Negan met with Eugene at the end. * Daryl seems to be devolving over time. His response to Richard when he's telling him about his plan with Carol was to utter "nah!" twice. Come one, that's the best dialog you could give him? * Though I thought the comic relief was a bit much when I first met them, I really am starting to like the banter between Jerry and Ezekiel. I am glad the show is back. Sunday nights have meaning again!
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Post by crowschmo on Mar 14, 2017 14:11:24 GMT -5
Okay, okay. There's just NO WAY one could muster up enough force to drive the end of a road sign into someone's skull! (Maybe if it was attached to the front of a truck). But, anyway - I wonder what Carol is going to do now that she knows the truth. And, I guess Morgan is crazy again?
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Post by Mod City on Mar 14, 2017 18:49:04 GMT -5
Okay, okay. There's just NO WAY one could muster up enough force to drive the end of a road sign into someone's skull! (Maybe if it was attached to the front of a truck). But, anyway - I wonder what Carol is going to do now that she knows the truth. And, I guess Morgan is crazy again? Well, to be fair, they have said the walkers are softer than regular people after they've been dead for awhile. That's why a knife can be thrust straight through their skulls. I'm not sure it's easier to climb a tree with a road sign than it would be to just take them out in a more traditional fashion, but whatever. A couple quick thoughts on the previous episode. * The little aside trip with Rick and Michonne was kind of fun, though the episode lost points for the attempted Rick death fake out and, yes, the CGI deer, which really did not look good. * It looked like Tara was about to tell Rick about Oceanside. That's pretty exciting. Oceanside is clearly the most formidable other group they've come across. Organized, well-armed, deadly and possessing a deep-seated hatred for the Saviors. They more than anyone would likely be the most crucial in turning the tide in favor of our group. The question is how do you get to them to make your case without them killing you? * Not sure Rosita and Sasha are going to be OK. I'm not on board with their plan, but if they succeed, hey, at least Negan goes down. I'm not counting on it, though. * Rick and what's-her-name bargaining at the end was funny. That group has yet to really show me they know what they're doing, but there is potential there, too. Now the most recent episode. Personally I thought it was fantastic, especially from a performances standpoint. More quick notes: * Lennie James is incredible in this episode. I know this show undeservedly doesn't win awards, especially for acting, but damn, that guy should get a nomination at least for his work here. Terrifying and exhilarating. I know a lot of folks said they wanted "killer" Morgan back, and I had kind of come to agree, but man, seeing the Morgan from "Clear" again was unsettling and powerful. * Same goes for the guy who played Richard. This was easily his best work on the show, with extra points for his monologue when Morgan confronts him with what he had done. His story isn't that different from Morgan's, and even though I hated how he went about trying to do something, I didn't hate him, necessarily. His is a sad story, as well. He didn't want Benjamin to die. * The leader of this pack of Saviors seems to have a little bit of a conscience. He clearly wasn't expecting that guy to shoot Benjamin, the youngest of the group. * Maybe I've asked this before, but does Negan and the main group of Saviors even know about this deal with the Kingdom? We really haven't heard/seen the story of how this arrangement began. If it began like it did with Rick and our group, why do the Saviors never enter the Kingdom? Why hasn't Negan been there to intimidate them? Negan doesn't seem like the kind of guy to not let his presence be known to the whole community in some fashion. If this was covered I may have missed it in an earlier episode. * Just rolling this out there. I want to see a stealth strike team composed of Michonne, Morgan and Jesus. Add Daryl and his crossbow to that for good measure. Now that Morgan is bloodthirsty again, it would be one group you would not want to stumble across in the dark woods. I'm not sure who we'll have left at the end of this season, but I'm hanging around to find out
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Post by crowschmo on Mar 15, 2017 13:48:30 GMT -5
Good point about Negan not ever showing up at The Kingdom (at least not that we're aware of). Maybe he doesn't know about the deal. Maybe that other guy, what's his name, is running a little side business. Or, maybe Negan has a phobia about tigers. (Or theater folk).
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Post by Mod City on Mar 24, 2017 18:51:14 GMT -5
I had a lovely, thoughtful review all written and I lost it thanks to my carelessness with my browser. So here's the condensed version Decent enough episode last week. Glad Daryl and Maggie talked, and no surprise that she didn't hold him responsible for Glenn. Sasha and Rosita and their plan was not as strong, though I'm glad Rosita opened up a little bit. And a thought on the figure Rosita saw at the end of the episode. Generally people are saying it's either Daryl or Dwight, which makes sense, though of those two I'd lean toward Dwight, as Daryl seemed too far away to catch up with and find Rosita in time to be there. Pure speculation here - and I'm about 0-20 in my guesses in this thread - I'm going to say it could be Sherry. In her notes to Dwight, Sherry mentioned he had a bad memory. As he's reading the notes, he seems to compare the handwriting between notes, as if he's authenticating them in some way. Instead of being a small personal quirk, maybe Dwight's memory is a real condition, something he lives with and that affects his daily life. Like colorblindness or something. That said, when's the last time we saw Dwight's crossbow? He had it when he left the Sanctuary to head to the meeting place, but I don't recall seeing it after that (I don't have a DVR, so it's hard to go back and check). Is it possible he actually forgot the crossbow there and Sherry found it there after returning? Is she coming back for Dwight? She has long hair, too, and the figure is almost all silhouette. Long shot, I know, but what the hell. Figured I'd put the guess out there. Won't be long and I'm proven wrong
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Post by Mod City on Mar 26, 2017 22:37:04 GMT -5
Pure speculation here - and I'm about 0-20 in my guesses in this thread - I'm going to say it could be Sherry.
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Post by crowschmo on Mar 28, 2017 17:23:33 GMT -5
Didn't they say the back half of this season was going to be more action packed? They haven't really done much but go on runs. And discuss stuff and things. I still like the show in general, but they're really just not feeling like the same show anymore. Get rid of Negan already, please. Just go on an all out Savior killing spree and decimate those sonsabitches.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Mar 29, 2017 20:17:49 GMT -5
Get rid of Negan already, please. Just go on an all out Savior killing spree and decimate those sonsabitches. That's what I'm hanging around for.
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Post by crowschmo on Apr 3, 2017 17:47:52 GMT -5
Those poor Alexandrians - except for our heroes - aren't doing too well since Rick and his group showed up. I know they probably would've been done in by the Wolves long ago had Rick and Co. not been there, or had to face the Saviors on their own (I wonder how De-ANNA! would've dealt with Negan?) But anyway, it seems wherever our main group goes, all the others that were there first die out, or those who join up with them die out. (Remember all those Woodbury refugees? Where are they now? Dead, that's where). Rick and the rest, even though it seems like they can better deal with adversity, seem to be bad-ass luck for anyone they encounter. Heh. Oh, well. There are some stragglers left. Poor Sasha. I wasn't really invested in her that much as the writers seemed to have run out of story for her, but, still sad nonetheless. Star Trek, here she comes! (I wonder if Heath will ever be back - maybe after 24 hours ). Not much else happened other than Sasha gone and the war started. Jadis is dead meat walking, I assume. Unless they turn coat again. She has a thang for Rick, so maybe she'll rethink what side she's on (though they're not really on any side). And maybe Rick will just kill her anyway. So, there. And I guess no one from the Saviors knew about the big kitty.
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Post by GarrettCRW on Apr 4, 2017 0:25:58 GMT -5
I've been slowly getting discontent with the series over this season, and the finale was no different. (I went so far as to say that "Slow the Plot Down" should be the new theme song on Twitter.) Other than Sasha's sacrifice, none of the name characters were in any real danger on ANY side, and that's not exactly a good thing in my mind.
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Post by Mod City on Apr 4, 2017 11:28:42 GMT -5
Believe it or not, I thought it was a decent finale. Yeah, I know I saw that about every episode in the series, but it is what it is. I'm invested and probably can't see episodes anyway other than "decent" to "really good." Eh, I'm not a critic, just a guy who likes the show. So a little on the finale: * Sasha went out in a cool way. I honestly didn't see what she was doing until she downed that pill, and even then it was taking me a second to register exactly what the plan was. She was a middle-of-the-road character for me, but it doesn't make losing her have any less impact. She gave our heroes the chance they needed. * The Scavengers turning on our heroes - ugh. Does there always have to be some goofy twist like that? I'll admit, it was one part of finale that did irk me. I don't know exactly where Rick's head is at, but it's probably time they go full Saviors on that bunch. * Rick talking back to Negan - loved it. The line reading for "You're all already dead" was beautiful. As tense a moment as we've seen on the show in a long time. * Well, Negan appears to not have known about Shiva, at the very least. I wish I could make out what Negan said after the Kingdom ambushed them. Something about a tiger and something else, I just couldn't understand his next few lines. He seemed freaked out, anyway. I've heard some complaints about the CGI again, but really I thought it was miles ahead of that deer from a few episodes back. * How was Dwight feeling with his hands tied due to the fact he didn't know Negan's plan? I like that he left that note for the group, but whether they believe him or not will have to be seen, I guess. * Eugene. It seems he's regressed completely to the lying coward phase. I thought for a moment he'd have a message for Sasha on the iPod - maybe telling her a knife is stashed in the coffin or something - but it wasn't to be. I really do like the character, but it sucks he's a turncoat now. Overall, I feel a lot better after this season finale than the last one. I suppose I'll end up watching Fear the Walking Dead again since it's better than nothing. October is a long way away
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Post by crowschmo on Apr 4, 2017 12:29:10 GMT -5
Negan said something about Maggie: Something like, "Dead widow's alive and kicking, guns ablazing." Or something to that effect. I'll have to watch that part again to remember what else he said.
And yes, I also loved when Rick said, "You're all already dead." And it looked like Negan believed every word of it (before he covered it up with a grin). Rick's expression was like, all right. Kill Carl. That'll only make me madder. It'll make me MEAN MAD. And Negan was like, "Sh*t, this dude is serious."
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Post by Mod City on Apr 4, 2017 14:48:18 GMT -5
Negan said something about Maggie: Something like, "Dead widow's alive and kicking, guns ablazing." Or something to that effect. I'll have to watch that part again to remember what else he said. And yes, I also loved when Rick said, "You're all already dead." And it looked like Negan believed every word of it (before he covered it up with a grin). Rick's expression was like, all right. Kill Carl. That'll only make me madder. It'll make me MEAN MAD. And Negan was like, "Sh*t, this dude is serious." OK, that makes sense, as he was still in the dark about Maggie being alive. Between her and Shiva he seemed really beside himself. He still had the moxie to give them the finger as he fled under fire, though. Thanks for that info! And I believe Rick was ready to sacrifice Carl. The kid clearly already had a death wish - he assaulted Negan's men on his own and by all rights should have been dead already. He also told Rick to just cut his hand off in the season opener. These people are getting vicious again, and I like it.
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Post by crowschmo on Apr 5, 2017 18:39:24 GMT -5
Okay, edit: he said THAT widow's alive...etc. Then he said something about Simon and something's all to sh*t, I couldn't understand him. Now I know they can't just end the story line just yet, but jeez, couldn't someone HIT Negan with all that firepower going?
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Post by Shep on Apr 8, 2017 10:26:26 GMT -5
"You taste that, Simon? That is the taste of sh*t!" LOL Brilliant!
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