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Post by Shep on Feb 2, 2011 3:14:51 GMT -5
Anyone else a fan? I grew up watching this (and Doctor Who) on PBS. Mrs. Shep has the whole series on dvd and its the kind of thing we let run on TV when we're going to bed. The later series are definitely the weakest imo. Too much emphasis on effects, the writing isn't as sharp....I'm gonna say Series 2 is darn near perfect. Despite the fact you don't have Robert Llewellyn as Kryten (you do have David Ross as the character in one ep), the cast is really starting to gel, the writing is superb. Smart, funny sci-fi. Rimmer: "Tell them we're coming aboard. By god we'll rescue these fair blooms or my name's not Captain A.J. Rimmer, Space Adventurer. " Lister: "Space Adventurer?" Rimmer: "What am I supposed to say? 'Fear not, I'm the bloke who used to clean the gunk out of the chicken soup machine. Actually we know sod all about space travel, but if you've got a blocked nozzle, we're your lads.' That'll fill em with confidence...".
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Post by angilasman on Feb 2, 2011 9:24:12 GMT -5
Series 2 is perfect, and I'd say the very different Series 5 is almost so (the last three episodes of that year are definitely perfect).
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Post by siamesesin on Feb 2, 2011 21:04:07 GMT -5
I know it's pretty cliche, but I'm pretty fond of 3. Just a bunch of fun episodes ("Marooned" is still my favorite episode of them all) and Robert Llewellyn.
I also like 4 and 5. I find myself re-watching 1 & 2 more often, probably because those were the ones I saw fewest at the beginning, and they're even more fun from a later perspective.
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Post by mummifiedstalin on Feb 3, 2011 9:03:57 GMT -5
I'm closer to Sia. I got into the show with the later series when Kryten was a big part. Sometimes he even seemed to make Rimmer a guest star. It's weird not having him around. I never did get into Series 8. I watched it once, but I never watched it again. It just doesn't seem like Red Dwarf to me with all the other people. And not chiding you, Shep, but there is another Red Dwarf thread. forrestcrow.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=tv&action=display&thread=16969
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Post by siamesesin on Feb 3, 2011 11:39:15 GMT -5
I'll hold him, Shep. You punch him.
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Post by Shep on Feb 4, 2011 19:39:30 GMT -5
LOL I love reading posts from a couple years back. (I've still got a thing for Jenny Agutter btw)
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Post by Broadsword on Feb 5, 2011 9:03:22 GMT -5
Mine favorate is series 6 for some strange reason Legion and Emohawk - Polymorph II are two that really stand out for me. I love most every thing about this great show except for some of series's 1 and 7 they are almost perfect for me.
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Post by Grape on Feb 12, 2011 14:55:42 GMT -5
The first series i saw was Series 3, so I'll go for that. The first epiosde (Backwards) is thing of joy for ever.
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Post by siamesesin on Feb 12, 2011 15:08:12 GMT -5
I knew I liked you, Grape. You are a man of taste and refinement.
Has anyone check out the commentaries (besides my nerdy self)? They're a lot of fun.
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Post by Shep on Feb 13, 2011 2:23:08 GMT -5
Has anyone check out the commentaries (besides my nerdy self)? They're a lot of fun. Absolutely! And some of the bonus features are pretty good, too.
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Post by mummifiedstalin on Feb 15, 2011 23:55:09 GMT -5
I know Series 7 gets a rough rap, but I actually like it quite a bit. It seems like a better way to change directions than what they did in 8. Similar premise: just a few people lost in space who don't really get along. Yeah, you miss Rimmer for most of it, but the new Kachansky actually had a really good rapport with Kryten, I thought. And I also liked that they took the time to push the science fiction aspects a bit further. The comedy still stays on top, but they use the expanded time/scope to get a touch of drama in as well.
Case in point: Ouroborus. I love that Lister is his own dad. It increases how really isolated his character is, not only in time/space, but also in terms of his own history. And all that happens in the midst of an episode where he finally gets the love-of-his-life, Kachansky, but who only sees him as a shadow of his potential in an alternate universe. And what does he do? What he always does: he deals and finds a reason to see it as positive (his little speech about how he's the one circle in time that keeps humanity alive). That's why he's the hero. He's a slob, but he's ultimately completely selfless. It's deep, man.
Part of the reason I think the show works so well is that it has a total tongue-in-cheek silliness (much like MST host segments) that's actually pasted on top of some pretty serious premises: isolation, personal incompatibility, self-doubt and self-loathing, cost of survival. Series 7 just brings a lot of that more to the forefront whereas most of the rest of the show is content (and amazingly proficient) at keeping it as a subtext.
Yes, it has a different "feel," and I think that makes it a Series that people don't return to a lot. But in terms of what Red Dwarf was really about, I think it was probably closer to the heart than any other Series.
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Post by Grape on Feb 17, 2011 14:39:49 GMT -5
I knew I liked you, Grape. You are a man of taste and refinement. Why, Thank You. I'm just like sugar, in as much as I'm healthy and good for....no, hang on.
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