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Post by mummifiedstalin on Sept 21, 2011 23:44:03 GMT -5
I'm curious if anyone's opinions of the show have changed now that time has passed. I'm going to start watching the whole thing over again from the beginning. I loved it for the first four seasons, and got really upset with where it went. But as time passes, opinions change, and I've softened in response to a lot of the things that upset about how the later seasons went.
I'm ready to see it with fresh eyes and try to figure out what it was rather than what I wanted it to be.
So does anyone who followed it have any deep reflections now that the suspense/cliffhanger factor is long since gone?
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Post by Mr. Atari on Sept 22, 2011 0:35:37 GMT -5
I recently watched them all again, and had some interesting and unexpected reactions. Some performances grated on me big time (Ana-Lucia and Claire, especially). Other performances impressed me more the second time around (Charlie and even Shannon & Boone).
I liked the finale when it aired, and I like it now. I don't feel like they left me with too many unanswered questions that I can't connect the dots on myself. I think the emotional payoffs make up for the big carrot in the ground. However, there are still some season 6 cheats that bug me. For example, did the bomb create two realities? Sorry, no, the bomb actually never went off at all. Is Desmond the key to connecting the two story lines? Absolutely! His whole arc has been building to this...wait, sorry, no. Is Sayid possessed by evil because of his dirty baptism resurrection? Well, sort of, but not really.
But the actual explanation at the end is still satisfying for me, even if the component parts are flawed.
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Post by Torgo on Sept 22, 2011 2:40:08 GMT -5
Pretty much enjoy it as much today as I did back then, if not moreso.
The Constant still sucks balls, though.
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Post by angilasman on Sept 22, 2011 17:22:56 GMT -5
The Constant still sucks balls, though. My fav episode. Desmond and Penny are my favorite subplot and I believe I made the comment right before the finale that if they end up okay I won't care about anything else that happens! ;D |
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Post by Torgo on Sept 22, 2011 18:38:26 GMT -5
My complaint about the Constant has nothing to do with Desmond or Penny (though I care very little for either, I could care less, I will admit). It's jus one of the most atrociously written hours of television I've ever seen, especially on a show that I enjoy. It was the only point in the series I actually consodered giving up on it.
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Post by Mr. Atari on Sept 22, 2011 20:58:58 GMT -5
My complaint about the Constant has nothing to do with Desmond or Penny (though I care very little for either, I could care less, I will admit). It's jus one of the most atrociously written hours of television I've ever seen, especially on a show that I enjoy. It was the only point in the series I actually consodered giving up on it. You've complained about it before, but I don't think you ever explained why you think it's the most atrociously written hour of television. Is it the impossible logic of the mental time travel? Do you find the phone call too sappy? It's probably my favorite episode in the series, so I'm very curious to hear your reasoning. |
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Post by Torgo on Sept 23, 2011 0:43:13 GMT -5
I actually like the phone call at the end, but it was too little too late to save the episode.
The whole time travel through Desmond's head angle is rediculously convoluted and unneccessary. It was a haphazard and lazy way to seek urgency for Desmond to finally speak with Penny. Every flash from present to past makes me groan with frustration, and Faraday's technobable and "constant" nonsense just reeks. Granted the entire series is full of implausable concepts put forth in a wild manor, but this was the only time it ever truely bothered me, because there never seemed to be any thematic purpose to it.
That said, as much as I bitch about the episode (and I do love to bitch about it. Everytime Lost comes up I exclaim my displeasure with the episode, kind of like superhero movies and Hulk), it's not my most hated episode. That would be Fire + Water, where they just wrote a script with Charlie acting like an ass for an hour. It's just that there's just so much more to complain about in the Constant.
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Post by oldmanmerton on May 26, 2012 2:03:20 GMT -5
If MST is my favorite comedy show of all time (and fave show period but no matter), Lost is my favorite drama of at least my adult life. It's not perfect, but I have such tremendous respect for the writers and how they not only tied everything together at the end but always seemed to interlace things throughout the series masterfully.
I think I benefited from willfully ignoring the show initially. I thought the premise was so stupid when the show came out that I didn't start watching it until the first 2 seasons were out on DVD.
I actually think the first however many episodes of season 2 with the Tailies grates on me more than any other part of the series. But I watched Season 3 as it aired and then, once again willfully ignored the show and all hype around it, but this time because I didn't want to deal with having to wait for the story to unfold. I let seasons 4 and 5 hit dvd...watched them and then watched the final season as it aired.
Everyone I talk to that decided to get bitter towards the show points to something different at different points in its life. But I pretty much rolled with every weird twist and jumped shark and embraced it all.
If there's one complaint I have about the conclusion it's that after Juliet's Death (er...I'm assuming I don't need to spoiler that in a "revisiting thread") Sawyer never really had a shining moment and he was my favorite character in the series.
There were never really any plot elements that bugged me so much that I thought it detracted from the show. There were characters that did. Ana Lucia, Kate, Charlie during large portions (great death and all but the guy was too often a tool).
I dunno. Except for two brothers on the other forum I frequent I'm the only one that didn't start hating Lost. But there were just too many things in the show I thought were brilliant to ever lose faith in it.
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Post by crowschmo on Jun 5, 2012 21:26:34 GMT -5
No deep reflections. I still hate it now as I did then. That's it. Simple, undeep hatred. I've never been so disappointed in a show that showed promise of being so different, and, well...deep. I thought it was really good when it started, and I kept getting more and more disenchanted with every direction they took. It was a big letdown for me.
I was hoping for some great things for Locke, and he just fizzled away into death, and then he wasn't actually Locke anymore.
It just seemed like they didn't really know where to go once they started and they were just making up scripts like the night before they aired or something. When they were stoned.
Boo.
Another show that was a big letdown was Battlestar Galactica. Don't get me started on THAT dud.
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