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Post by caucasoididiot on Dec 4, 2011 14:47:00 GMT -5
Similarly with "Astaire & Rogers," though I too find it hard to pick a single moment encapsulating them. The scene where they are bickering like an old married couple after crash landing on Tatooine would be my suggestion. Damn, that must have been a tough number, especially backwards and in high heels!
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Post by TheNewMads on Dec 4, 2011 14:50:53 GMT -5
Similarly with "Astaire & Rogers," though I too find it hard to pick a single moment encapsulating them. The scene where they are bickering like an old married couple after crash landing on Tatooine would be my suggestion. that or the bit when luke and co. are in the trash compactor is a pretty hot moment too. or "what message? the one you're carrying in your rusty innards" etc.
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Post by BJ on Dec 4, 2011 14:57:07 GMT -5
I'd have gone with the moment when C3PO says something woeful, and R2D2 beeps. Classic and unforgettable. Roger Ebert is very knowledgeable about film history, but he's such a moron. Damn, that must have been a tough number, especially backwards and in high heels! ha
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Post by The Mad Plumber on Dec 4, 2011 15:18:18 GMT -5
Cool Hand Luke Dedicated method actor Paul Newman eats fifty eggs.
The Empire Strikes Back At the chasm in Cloud City after having been physically beaten by Vader, Luke is dealt an additional harsh blow when the dark lord reveals he is Luke's father.
Tron Tron, Flynn, and Ram battle in the iconic Light Cycle duel.
Alien Sigourney Weaver in tight panties ... mmm.
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Post by caucasoididiot on Dec 4, 2011 15:21:28 GMT -5
Cool Hand LukeDedicated method actor Paul Newman eats fifty eggs. Good bit there, but for me that film all comes down to "What we got here is a failure to communicate," though that probably is the stock answer. Edit: I'm a little surprised by Ebert's choice of HAL's lip-reading for 2001. "Daisy" would seem a stronger moment, and for myself the best moment of the film tends to be the death of Drs. Hunter, Kimball and Kaminsky. I forget which reviewer it was, but someone wrote, "'Life Functions Terminated' reads like the epitaph for technological Man." Roger Ebert is very knowledgeable about film history, but he's such a moron. I find him a good guide for my own enjoyment in some areas, but I wouldn't argue too strenuously with that. I find myself thinking in terms of moments that somehow are a focus of their films, but clearly his list isn't particularly composed of such. To give him the benefit of the doubt, I suppose tossing out something like "Astaire & Rogers" or "Busby Berkeley choreography" suggest that any randomly selected moment from them will suffice to illustrate their magic, and I guess I could go along with that. His choice of the Zapbruder film, though, really throws things open. You could start including the explosion of the Hindenburg or Arizona, even Armstrong's one small step. Oh, but one other focal moment just occurred to me: that broken thrust chamber falling from the sky at the end of Koyaanisqatsi.
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Post by Mighty Jack on Dec 6, 2011 0:31:31 GMT -5
To be fair, I don't think Ebert's list is so much a 'best of', as an appreciation. So I'm not really getting into 'agree or disagree' mode with this. I mean, I personally don't care for "Do The Right Thing", for example. But that is an iconic moment so I can't fault him for including it. And I think even Roger would admit that most great motion pictures are made up of several great moments. I feel he did a pretty good job of picking out some stellar moments. Two from the past decade that Roger wouldn't have been able to include, so I will here. Again, there are spoilers. Lost In TranslationThat ending, when he goes back and whispers something in her ear. Part of me is dying to know what he said, most of me is glad that I don't. It's a classic moment that has stuck with me to this day. OnceWhen he asks her if she still loves her estranged husband, she responds in her native tongue, but never translates it for him. And it's a nice moment. I later found out what she said and it hit me even harder (but don't click if you feel it will lessen the scene) "It's you that I love" and keeping to the idea that a great movie is made of several great scenes... The Falling Slowly scene, the sequence where she is walking from the store and singing his song (that she helped write) and...
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Post by caucasoididiot on Dec 6, 2011 9:06:44 GMT -5
And I think even Roger would admit that most great motion pictures are made up of several great moments. I feel he did a pretty good job of picking out some stellar moments. Oh yeah, I'm acknowledging that. I suppose a lot of the reaction I had to plissken's characterization is tangential to that question. When I've occasionally heard Ebert talk about anything outside film, he seems remarkably uninformed. That brings to mind his weird, double review of JFK after Cronkite challenged him on it. Then, on seeing that he throws something like the Zapruder film into that list, I'm kind of left wondering if it was just unfocused or if his line between fiction and reality is kinda fuzzy. Not that it really matters, in the grand scheme. I can offhand recollect seeking out The Third Man, Touch of Evil and Dark City on his recommendations, so I'll cut him some slack. Edit: Ah, does he specifically mean its use in JFK? Not a high point in film history for me, but more ontologically reasonable.
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