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Post by Mod City on May 15, 2019 14:00:20 GMT -5
I'll admit, I wish I had gotten on board early in the game. The show dwells on themes that are really quite up my alley. I like these types of stories. But at some point, it just gets too far out ahead to catch up.
I remember showing up at a guys house to look at a pinball machine I was considering buying. Nice house, comfortable neighborhood. I come in and the place is just an incredible pigsty. Honestly, I'd have thought he was squatting there. Dishes pilled a foot-and-a-half high in the sink. He had to get up from his Game of Thrones episode to show me the machine, and he was more interested in the episode (it was a weekday, so I assume it was a recording) than trying to make a buck and sell me the machine he advertised. People got into that damn show.
For the record, he said his wife was out of town and he was letting it all hang out, so to speak.
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Post by Torgo on May 15, 2019 14:53:21 GMT -5
It's probably worth a watch to see if you dig it. I don't know if I was just not in the mood for it, but watching ten episodes of it was an uphill battle for me. I responded to it a little more softly when I watched through Rifftrax. I don't know if that was adjusted expectations, whether I was just feeling the show at the moment, or if the Rifftrax lens was making it more entertaining.
I know a lot of people who love the show, and try to nerd out to me about it and I'm like "I don't know who it is you're talking about. Is she the hot one that played Sarah Conner or the other hot one that played Sarah Conner?" And then they look at me like I'm the freak because I don't watch it.
But I think the world would be a happier place if there were only one runaway success in the premium cable channels, and that show were Ash vs. Evil Dead. They should have let that show run eight seasons, and even if the end were sh*t the people would have watched would have still been "YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAH! MOTHERF***IN' DEADITES EXPLODIN' LIKE A MOTHERF***ER!"
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Post by crowschmo on May 17, 2019 16:07:38 GMT -5
Ugh, just remember, it's a f*cking dragon show, people! Lack of character development and motivation should not get people this worked up over such things. True. But, what people are getting mad at is the fact that this particular show DID have good character development and motivation, seven seasons' worth, so they watched it and invested time in it all those years. Then, this season, a lot of those motivations and character arcs seem like they're being dumped by the wayside to just - BAM! One episode and that story's done and - BAM! one episode and another story's done, and all those arcs just didn't GO anywhere. All the hints and connections between different characters' stories and, nope, none of it really mattered much. None of the buildup paid off. And of course if people watched it all this time, they are going to want to see it to the end. Doesn't mean they have to like what they see. People are just pissed off because, what seemed like an intriguing story just falls apart and characters no longer make much sense. Even GRR Martin doesn't like the way it's being handled. I know the show is expensive, and takes a long time to produce, and the actors probably want to get on with their lives, but, if the show writers wanted to end it the way they did, they should have had at least a FEW more episodes to get there to tell it better. BTW: Was the horse Arya rode away on Harry Strickland's horse? (Not that it probably matters).
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Post by Mod City on May 17, 2019 20:25:41 GMT -5
Ugh, just remember, it's a f*cking dragon show, people! Lack of character development and motivation should not get people this worked up over such things. True. But, what people are getting mad at is the fact that this particular show DID have good character development and motivation, seven seasons' worth, so they watched it and invested time in it all those years. Then, this season, a lot of those motivations and character arcs seem like they're being dumped by the wayside to just - BAM! One episode and that story's done and - BAM! one episode and another story's done, and all those arcs just didn't GO anywhere. All the hints and connections between different characters' stories and, nope, none of it really mattered much. None of the buildup paid off. And of course if people watched it all this time, they are going to want to see it to the end. Doesn't mean they have to like what they see. People are just pissed off because, what seemed like an intriguing story just falls apart and characters no longer make much sense. Even GRR Martin doesn't like the way it's being handled. I know the show is expensive, and takes a long time to produce, and the actors probably want to get on with their lives, but, if the show writers wanted to end it the way they did, they should have had at least a FEW more episodes to get there to tell it better. BTW: Was the horse Arya rode away on Harry Strickland's horse? (Not that it probably matters). Fair points, all. And I admit, I really have no business commenting because I've never seen the show, so I can't speak to how this last season is playing out for people who are truly invested in the story. My observation is based on reactions to shows I have watched that have a similarly devoted fan base. Ending a critically-acclaimed, highly-popular show is a tough trick. Especially one with a reputation for quality like Game of Thrones. Almost no one does it with widespread acclaim. Hell, maybe it will all resolve itself with mind-blowing crystal clarity with the last episode. You never know Anyway, back to proper Game of Thrones discussion.
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Post by crowschmo on May 18, 2019 17:06:59 GMT -5
^^^^^Actually, I'm guessing GRR Martin HIMSELF is having trouble getting to where he wants to go. There are a ridiculous number of characters who all seem like a true cog in the wheel, and many intricate interwoven stories, and I'm sure he knows how he wants it to end overall, but, and I've said this already in an earlier post, I'm not sure even he knows how it's all going to come together and he probably wants to be sure he doesn't let anyone down on how it ends. I think he's just having trouble GETTING to that ending, tying up all the loose ends and all and making sure all those hints and character arcs MEAN something. Though, the story is itself saying, not all things in life end up the way one thinks, and not all people's stories have as much meaning as we'd like to think, sometimes they just END. So, realistically, a lot of characters (looking at you, Ned Stark) SEEM to be crucial and integral to the overall arc, but they can be snuffed out, and out of "play" like nothing. Nobody's safe. They could be important, but that doesn't mean they are going to make it to the finish line. So, ending this thing is going to be a bitch. I wish him good luck.
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Post by crowschmo on May 19, 2019 12:27:44 GMT -5
Hoping that all the grumbling from Martin, and even the actors who are IN the show, on how they weren't satisfied with the ending (and all the leaks) is all a big fake-out and the ending actually is this major, colossal epic awesomeness.
But...
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Post by crowschmo on May 20, 2019 14:23:13 GMT -5
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Post by crowschmo on May 28, 2019 18:56:23 GMT -5
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