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Post by Mike Flugennock on Dec 23, 2012 23:24:20 GMT -5
I'm not actually discussing the stupidity of a single crime in particular here, but a particular group of criminals: Eddie Crane and his pals in The Beatniks. From what I can tell in the plot, they apparently have a regular bunch of favorite places they like to stick up repeatedly at two- or three-week intervals. How stupid is that? Then, to compound the stupidity, they pay for their meal at the diner with some of the cash from their grocery-store haul? Oh, jeezus, did that make my brain hurt.
Consider also the fact that in any given situation, Eddie & Co. go out of their way to gratuitiously instigate any manner of chaos which immediately draws attention to them and they instantly become a trouble magnet -- the hotel where they're staying while Eddie gets ready for his big debut, backstage at the TV station while Eddie's making his big debut, Charlie's Bar, you name it. You'd think a bunch of hoodlums involved in multiple armed robberies would try and lay low and avoid attracting attention to themselves, but nooooooo-oooooo, not these clowns.
Then, there's "Moon", a man worthy of a separate discussion of stupid criminality all on his own. When you really think about it, it's a miracle that any gang of hoodlums could've possibly gotten as far as they did with a psychotic loose cannon like Moon on-board.
Oh, and btw... the more I think about it, the more I'm thinking that there were no smart crimes on MSTed movies, only stupid ones. After all, if they were smart crimes, they would've been in good movies, and never would've made it onto MST3K.
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Post by Mike Flugennock on Dec 30, 2012 14:57:22 GMT -5
Actually, it's not really a "crime" as such, but I can't help wondering just what the hell Rommel was thinking when he recruited his posse to get his revenge on JC for killing Rita in Sidehackers. First, let's just take a look at who he's got:
Nero, the dude who defected from JC's gang. No problem I can see there; the guy's disaffected, tired of JC's bvllsh*t, and killing Rommel's girl was the last straw. Good enough.
Big Jake, the muscled-up bruiser. Once again, no outward issues that I can see. Rommel needs a big, strong dude who can open up a big can of whoop-ass. So far, so good.
That loud-mouthed hick with the big pole telling the dumb old joke about the numbered jokes. Highly questionable. I can't possibly see what "talent" he can contribute to Rommel's posse, unless you count distracting JC with his stupid jokes.
Gooch, JC's right-hand man. Jeezus, what a rock-stupid bastard. The guy didn't appear to have any good reason to honestly defect. JC sends him to infiltrate the posse, and Rommel just lets him on in. You'd think Gooch's deep-down stupidity would've set off an alarm in Rommel's head, but nooooo-ooooo.
Now, about the "no guns" business. Cripes, what was the deal with that? What, was Rommel tuning up motorcycle engines without opening up the garage door? We're talking about a nemesis who's obviously psychotic and has no problem at all with firearms, and Rommel decides to get all noble and go the Gandhi route. God, what a dope.
Finally, there's the issue of scraping up the cash to "buy some help". Rommel's going the penny-ante route, selling off his tools and stuff, and the whole time he's driving a like-new '66 Mustang. WTF? This picture was made in '68 or '69, which makes the Mustang maybe three years old, tops, and it's cherry, man. Instead of nickel'n'diming it by selling his tool sets, why the hell didn't he just sell the 'Stang?
(facepalm)
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Post by jimmydoorlocks on Dec 30, 2012 18:02:14 GMT -5
I have a theory that Rommel was so devastated by his wife's death that he didn't really care whether he lived or died, hence the no-guns thing. Either that or in his mind he considered using guns to be too easy and stooping to JC's level. Perhaps both.
People do some really strange things in their grief. Or maybe it's just a terrible movie and I should really just relax.
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Post by Monophylos on Dec 30, 2012 21:43:00 GMT -5
Then, there's "Moon", a man worthy of a separate discussion of stupid criminality all on his own. When you really think about it, it's a miracle that any gang of hoodlums could've possibly gotten as far as they did with a psychotic loose cannon like Moon on-board. Moon definitely isn't going to win any prizes for criminal competence. Sure, he KILLED THAT FAT BARKEEP, but only after snivelling like a baby and then hitting the guy over the head while his back was turned. Then when he tries to get tough with Eddie in the alley, Eddie beats the snot out of him without taking the slightest damage from Moon's ineffectual flailing. Was Moon supposed to be stoned out of his gourd all the time or something?
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Post by mrsphyllistorgo on Dec 31, 2012 15:35:12 GMT -5
I got the feeling Moon dropped a whole sheet back in the day and hasn't been right in the melon since.
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