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Post by CherokeeJack on Mar 10, 2004 16:44:16 GMT -5
That's because the U.N. was inconsistent and failed to enforce their sanctions on Iraq, thereby forfeiting any semblance of authority. There was just as much, if not more, justification for UN military action in Iraq as in the Balkans. So when Bush went before the UN and called them ineffective and powerless, he wasn't being a rebel, he was stating a fact. As for Jesus, he wasn't a pacifist by any means. His pacifistic statements were about personal injury and revenge. But he never said anything about ignoring justice. So while I am no one's judge personally, I do believe the government has a responsibility to dispense justice for its people and in protection of its people. Iraq was actually begining to cooperate with the UN before we invaded. The UN might be slow in getting results sometimes, but going in with out support from other nations was just the wrong idea. I would of supported the war had the UN backed it, but now Bush was proven wrong. At least the UN tends to have all the facts before going to war. We need to have a sampo vs. Cherokee Jack discussion thread or something. I hate spelling. |
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Post by Buddhist Kitten on Mar 10, 2004 17:17:12 GMT -5
I really am not into politics, especially if it involves comedians . . . (shutter)
But while we are on the topic, what is the National Debt? Our social Studies teacher said it was 3 trillion, but he tends to exaggerate things.
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Post by TheOne19 on Mar 10, 2004 17:34:07 GMT -5
I really am not into politics, especially if it involves comedians . . . (shutter) But while we are on the topic, what is the National Debt? Our social Studies teacher said it was 3 trillion, but he tends to exaggerate things. Actually, it's a lot higher than that. www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ |
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Post by Buddhist Kitten on Mar 10, 2004 17:35:44 GMT -5
JORG!! I'm moving to Canada!!! |
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Post by TheOne19 on Mar 10, 2004 18:01:26 GMT -5
JORG!! I'm moving to Canada!!! I wouldn't go THAT far. |
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Post by PumaMan on Mar 10, 2004 19:09:14 GMT -5
Poor poor mike. One day he will wake up and see the error of his ways.
Well. I know that Crow and servo where Democratabots.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Mar 10, 2004 19:12:59 GMT -5
By saying "I win," it was meant as an inside joke only me and Poe would understand, because we got into an argument on what Mike's political views are. You jackass. Well SOMEBODY'S not going to be a moderator. And I disagree, if your right you should gloat. I do! |
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Post by Mr. Atari on Mar 10, 2004 19:18:01 GMT -5
Maybe. But we sure know that Torgo was a Democrat. He wasn't about to let the privileged few get all the riches.
By "privileged few" I mean the Master.
And by "riches" I mean the women.
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Post by marytrobot on Mar 11, 2004 4:24:29 GMT -5
Ok, I see where you are getting at. I've read between your lines  . Hitler does not equal Saddam. Hitler was 100 times worse than him. Hitler was actually invading other countries (when that happens the UN does get involved today as seen in desert storm). You cant even beging to compare the two. Saddam is small, tiny, microscopic, compared to him. Why didn't we invade Russia when Stalin was killing more than hitler then? Hitler was abitious. He would of not stopped with Europe, he didn't want to. Unless we are talking about Stalin or Pol Pot, dont even begin to compare today's dictators with Hitler. Saddam was horrible, don't get me wrong, but he's no Adolf. Oh so it's Ok when a guy just tortures his own people? so long as he's only killing off the 3rd world countries it's all good. You might want to note his past history, he may not have been a Hitler, but hitler was his idol. He tried to take over the middle east, he killed off his daughters husbands, after tricking them to come back (though they where really ex-husbands cause he forced the girls to divorce them first) So I think if he had been given the chance, had a country a bit more powerful, he would have done his best to take over, he's a dictator, what do you expect? |
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Post by CherokeeJack on Mar 11, 2004 14:30:18 GMT -5
Oh so it's Ok when a guy just tortures his own people? so long as he's only killing off the 3rd world countries it's all good. You might want to note his past history, he may not have been a Hitler, but hitler was his idol. He tried to take over the middle east, he killed off his daughters husbands, after tricking them to come back (though they where really ex-husbands cause he forced the girls to divorce them first) So I think if he had been given the chance, had a country a bit more powerful, he would have done his best to take over, he's a dictator, what do you expect? You're right, but I mean his crimes do not nearly equal that of Hitler, Stalin or Pol Pot. In other words the two shouldn't be compared. Saddam is small time and should just be viewed as the whiney dictator who couldn't get his way outside of Iraq. I've just been seeing too many people saying saddam = hitler and it drives me nuts. He's weak. |
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Post by lemminkimmen on Mar 11, 2004 20:27:12 GMT -5
By saying "I win," it was meant as an inside joke only me and Poe would understand, because we got into an argument on what Mike's political views are. You jackass. ooops, sorry, Forrest-I have no ill will toward you, and I was out of line. For the record, I am consistently a jack ass- What can I say, you go with your strengths... |
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Post by Afgncaap5 on Mar 11, 2004 22:19:43 GMT -5
I liked that interview with Mike. It revealed more than the average amount that you get (and over more topics).
I think it's a safe bet to call Mike a Republican, but it's never a definite thing. I mean, I'm not a Republican, even though I do generally take the Republican side of debates whenever I have to.
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Post by Afgncaap5 on Mar 11, 2004 23:14:38 GMT -5
Nah, I'm just a smartaleck.
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Post by Alleged on Mar 12, 2004 0:19:51 GMT -5
Ha! I knew he was. Poe said that he was definatly democrat, but in the last interview he was in (see Satellite News) he supports Bush, and he even likes Ronald Reagen. The debate is over. I win. I'm not that impressed with Mike's political and religious declarations, but only because I didn't ask to see them. As long as he makes fun of old movies with puppets and spaceships, he's ok by me. |
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Post by radagast on Mar 13, 2004 23:29:17 GMT -5
well geez, you don't have to rub in everyone's face.
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. Hitler does not equal Saddam. Hitler was 100 times worse than him.
