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Post by crowschmo on May 23, 2022 23:51:51 GMT -5
Aptly named episode - "Plan and Execution."
ShhhHHHH******T
Now we have to wait until July 11th to find out the fallout and what happens from here.
Watched "Talking Saul" afterwards with Chris Hardwick; Bob Odenkirk said people will never guess the twists and turns on how it all goes.
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Post by mylungswereaching on May 24, 2022 8:56:03 GMT -5
That was an awesome episode. I am rarely shocked like this.
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Post by crowschmo on May 28, 2022 17:11:31 GMT -5
Wonder if they're going to have to off the Kettleman's?
They will need Mike to "fix" the situation with Howard. How the heck are they going to clean that whole mess?
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Post by mylungswereaching on May 28, 2022 18:27:14 GMT -5
I doubt it. Bury the body in the desert and blame the victim like they always do.
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Post by crowschmo on May 29, 2022 6:39:33 GMT -5
His disappearance is going to have to be explained. And after he accused Jimmy of a bunch of stuff trying to make him look bad.
And the Kettleman's know they were trying to discredit Howard, so...
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Post by crowschmo on Jul 11, 2022 22:46:20 GMT -5
That was intense. Poor Howard. Vince Gilligan and the rest are usually very meticulous on how they think of every little detail connecting the past and present and BB and BCS. Now, how will they account for Saul saying "Did Lalo send you? It wasn't me, it was Ignacio!" when Walt and Jesse had him out in the desert? Nacho was long gone by then and Saul now knows Lalo is dead. So..? Hmm. I was hoping Lalo was going to escape again somehow and would be still alive during BB timeline, and maybe Kim or Saul would end up having to kill him. (If Kim is still alive by then - I kind of think she will be).
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Post by mylungswereaching on Jul 12, 2022 0:00:16 GMT -5
Excellent episode. I was holding my breath the whole time.
Answer to your spoiler, Saul won't get fooled again.
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Post by crowschmo on Jul 19, 2022 12:48:51 GMT -5
I won't bother with the "spoiler" thingee. Everyone should know by now they read at their own peril if they haven't watched it yet, heh. That episode was slOOoow. Until the end, then BAM! They hit you with - Kim's gone, time jump. Wonder if they'll stick with that time in the jump and make some flashbacks to further explain what happened to Kim or if they'll wait until like the last ep or something to show her fate (or if she's just out there "somewhere"). I kind of think Kim and Saul will meet up again. Maybe even with him as Gene. So, now he IS the "World's Greatest Lawyer" (not 2nd greatest, per the coffee cup) now that Kim is no longer a lawyer. Like how they emphasized that with the camera work. And also noticed the camera work when the sign was going up at his office - the Saul Goodman & Associates (what Associates? Did he just never get any?) how they just emphasized the "ass" part. Wonder what that whole wine scene was with Gus. Feel bad for Nacho's dad. Hate Walt even more that he shot Mike. (Even though Mike is no innocent). I wonder in what capacity we'll see Walt and Jesse and in which episode. There's only like 4 or 5 left, right?
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Post by mylungswereaching on Jul 19, 2022 15:09:44 GMT -5
Spoilers
All of the action in the scene was internal. This was an awesome episode if you've watched the whole series but the most boring possible episode if you haven't.
Gus is gay. He liked that guy a lot and was considering asking him to come home with him but he realized that if he does fall in love he's putting that person in danger. He can't have any personal connections. Gus loved talking to a guy who he was attracted to who still had enthusiasm for living. Gus and everyone around him live their lives paranoid and afraid all the time. They don't have time to sit back and enjoy the simple things in life. Gus gained a lot of money and influence but lost the ability to have anyone in his life he really cares about. Gus realized he is and always will be alone.
Mike realized that despite what he tells himself, he really is only marginally better than the people around him. He won't kill a total stranger for no real reason like Lalo did but he's destroy people's lives to make money and he will kill when he needs to.
And Kim finally woke up and realized what a horrible person she had become. She destroys people and enjoys doing it. The scene with Kim and Howards widow was the most painful and cruel scenes I've ever seen on TV ever. Kim was absolutely ruthless and pitiless. She might as well put a knife in her and and twisted it. That was psychological torture. It was horrible. She knew that she loved Jimmy with all her heart but the two of them together are toxic and drive each other to get worse and worse. That scene was absolutely incredible, and incredibly cruel.
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Post by crowschmo on Jul 27, 2022 7:06:47 GMT -5
^^^ Yeah, I got the gay vibes in the Gus scene, I was just wondering if there was more to it as he knew the other guy already. I guess I was just overthinking that. Re: Nippy Hey, Carol Burnett. That was pretty smart of Jimmy/Saul/Gene to get that cabbie to be involved in an illegal scheme so "if I go down, you go down" to get him to not bother him any further. I knew as soon as the store manager said to buff the floor that that guy was gonna slip. Was that another allusion to "Slippin'" Jimmy? Like a "here we go again" type of thing. Even though he had to do something about the cab driver (I forget the guy's name Edit: Jeff), Saul was looking at that suit and getting the bug again. Is he going to ruin something for himself?
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Post by mylungswereaching on Jul 27, 2022 7:14:25 GMT -5
^^^ Yeah, I got the gay vibes in the Gus scene, I was just wondering if there was more to it as he knew the other guy already. I guess I was just overthinking that. Re: Nippy Hey, Carol Burnett. That was pretty smart of Jimmy/Saul/Gene to get that cabbie to be involved in an illegal scheme so "if I go down, you go down" to get him to not bother him any further. I knew as soon as the store manager said to buff the floor that that guy was gonna slip. Was that another allusion to "Slippin'" Jimmy? Like a "here we go again" type of thing. Even though he had to do something about the cab driver (I forget the guy's name), Saul was looking at that suit and getting the bug again. Is he going to ruin something for himself? It was pretty clear that Gus was a regular at the bar so he knew the guy. It felt like Gene did this scam in self defense. He looked happy when he was doing it but didn't seem to get much satisfaction from it when it was done. I thought the episode was dull but it may be important later on.
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Post by crowschmo on Aug 2, 2022 19:40:06 GMT -5
Saul is starting to lose my sympathy. I didn't, however, like that transition from the hole Walt and Jesse dug him to him as Gene lying in bed. Is it a foreshadowing, or a fake-out foreshadowing? Hmm. (Aaron Paul's voice sounded too deep, heh. Bryan Cranston looked pretty much the same).
Is GeSauJimmy trying to crash and burn or what? I know he needed to up his stash, knowing so much got confiscated, but he really seems like "f*ck it all" now. Edit: I'm sure a lot of it had to do with his conversation with Kim (if he got through to her).
Edit: Fun fact: Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul have created a brand of their own mezcal called Dos Hombres.
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Post by mylungswereaching on Aug 3, 2022 15:42:23 GMT -5
Saul is starting to lose my sympathy. I didn't, however, like that transition from the hole Walt and Jesse dug him to him as Gene lying in bed. Is it a foreshadowing, or a fake-out foreshadowing? Hmm. (Aaron Paul's voice sounded too deep, heh. Bryan Cranston looked pretty much the same). Is GeSauJimmy trying to crash and burn or what? I know he needed to up his stash, knowing so much got confiscated, but he really seems like "f*ck it all" now. Edit: I'm sure a lot of it had to do with his conversation with Kim (if he got through to her). Edit: Fun fact: Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul have created a brand of their own mezcal called Dos Hombres. spoilers I have a theory about Jimmy/Saul/Gene. Jimmy is a person whose whole personality and view of the world is totally dependent on the people around him. Jimmy was raised in a house where his mother loved him being slipping Jimmy. He learned that Slipping Jimmy got money and girls and his mothers love. But then his mother died and his world fell apart. His brother got him out of trouble and he moved to New Mexico. There his life revolved around his brother and his girlfriend. But his brother rejected him and told him that he was a criminal and there's nothing he can do about it. And his girlfriend was attracted to him because she shared the same vice he did. They steered him towards crime. Saul lived around criminals and quickly took on their values. Do whatever you need to get rich no matter who it hurts. Gene is living all alone. He has no friends. He's a broken bitter man. He doesn't even get pleasure from the scam anymore. He gets no joy out of life. He's doesn't care anymore. He's always had someone around to rely on and give him direction and he has no body now. He's lost and is headed for disaster.
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Post by crowschmo on Aug 4, 2022 19:35:06 GMT -5
I wonder if the transition from dug hole to Gene lying in bed was a foreshadowing that Saul is going to die, or if it was just a sort of "the death of Gene" and the re-birth of Saul type dealio.
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Post by mylungswereaching on Aug 4, 2022 21:58:48 GMT -5
I wonder if the transition from dug hole to Gene lying in bed was a foreshadowing that Saul is going to die, or if it was just a sort of "the death of Gene" and the re-birth of Saul type dealio. I can't see Gene have a happy ending. Bittersweet would be surprising to me. I expect either dead or in prison. He could end up in a chair with a bell but that's already been done. I just can't see him riding off into the sunset with his best girl by his side. Everything that was good about him is gone.
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