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Post by sb5 on Oct 31, 2015 17:25:45 GMT -5
I doubt space was the issue - MST3K wraps are about 5 minutes, fitting them on a dual-layer DVD would be nothing, even if the documentary is feature-length and they needed to be compressed.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they probably just forgot/didn't think about them before it was too late.
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Post by sb5 on Oct 31, 2015 17:28:12 GMT -5
Edit: Double Post
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Post by Triple_sSs on Oct 31, 2015 17:35:12 GMT -5
Saw Viking Women for the first time last night, I liked it! And very waffley, it probably brainwashed me to making waffles this morning, lol. I also saw the AIP documentary, it was very well done and thorough of the studio's history. Pretty long too, I'm guessing they put all their chips on this one hence the lack of other features on this set. How long is the AIP documentary in time length? Is it in multiple parts spread out over multiple discs, like the MST3k documentarys on the 20th and 25th Anniversary edition DVDs? No, it's all one part on the Viking Women DVD. Not sure about the length but I bet it was over an hour or so.
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Post by leeharveyosmond on Oct 31, 2015 19:30:50 GMT -5
The documentary is about the length of an average episode, about 1:32:00.
I'm wondering how recently this set was being prepared? With the four-week early pre-order, I feel like they were only just manufactured which might explain the lack of bonus features/Hour Wraps this time around. Also, how late could they possibly have acquired these four titles?
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Post by sb5 on Oct 31, 2015 20:33:00 GMT -5
I did find it weird that they announced the special features just a few days before the early preorders went out. I seem to remember in the past (can't remember if it was Rhino or Shout) that special features to a set were announced and didn't include MST3K Hour wraps, fans pointed this out, and the company was able to get them in time. In this case, there obviously wouldn't be any time for that.
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Post by Diet Kolos on Nov 2, 2015 13:41:33 GMT -5
Received a message regarding the wraps:
We have an official statement from Jordan at Shout Factory regarding this:
Dear MST3K Fans,
Those of you with encyclopedic (or at least Wikipedic) knowledge of MST3K content will notice that two of the episodes on the forthcoming Volume XXXIV were once presented as part of the Mystery Science Theater Hour. In the past we have included the wraps to these episodes as bonus features. On this release, they aren’t there. The reason is simple, if embarrassing: I forgot. I apologize for the oversight, and we will make the MST Hour wraps for “The Saga of the Viking Women and Their Voyage To The Waters of the Great Sea Serpent” and “War of the Colossal Beast” available on Shoutfactorytv.com after December 1st. As always, thanks for continuing to support our DVD releases of MST3K!
Sincerely,
Jordan Fields, Shout! Factory
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Post by sb5 on Nov 2, 2015 15:46:39 GMT -5
Told ya.
I kinda wish they'd put them on the next set. I mean, it wouldn't make sense, but I would prefer to get them on an actual set in some form rather than just streaming.
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Post by citizensmurf on Nov 2, 2015 23:17:06 GMT -5
At least they can admit a mistake was made. I say offer a replacement disc ala Killer Shrews.
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Post by CrowTrobotfan92 on Nov 8, 2015 12:57:04 GMT -5
Shout Factory has never done "replacement discs" and doesn't seem like they ever will, unfortunately.
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Post by citizensmurf on Nov 8, 2015 13:44:55 GMT -5
Shout Factory has never done "replacement discs" and doesn't seem like they ever will, unfortunately. I bet if a fan campaign demanded at least they be included on the next set, they would do it. It wouldn't hurt.
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Post by Mighty Jack on Nov 12, 2015 4:10:32 GMT -5
It would be great if they did include them on the next set (with those from I Accuse My Parents, which -last I saw- isn't even available as a fan copy or on Youtube)
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Post by zurk on Nov 14, 2015 13:56:52 GMT -5
It would be great if they did include them on the next set (with those from I Accuse My Parents, which -last I saw- isn't even available as a fan copy or on Youtube) That, and those from The Unearthly, too. Shout should have included that in their "Shout Selects" edition of that episode.
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Post by davidbeegah on Dec 2, 2015 21:47:49 GMT -5
The documentary is about the length of an average episode, about 1:32:00. I should have read this last night before watching the documentary. I was up past 1AM. I ordered my set for Amazon not Shout. So I got the set yesterday afternoon. I watched War of the Colossal Beast, and Viking Women. Then I decided to watch the documentary thinking that it would be only 20 minutes or so. But the real reason I wanted to post about the documentary here. Was they really seemed to kiss up to Susan Hart. Said how good the movie It Conquered the World was etc. I am wondering if they are trying to butter her up a bit. To negotiate a deal.
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Post by Torgo on Dec 2, 2015 21:50:18 GMT -5
I got my set yesterday and am currently working my way through it. Watching The Undead right now.
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Post by Torgo on Dec 3, 2015 4:13:26 GMT -5
Better late than never! I wasn't able to afford an early set, but I was first in line for wide retail release at Hastings. While I've been busy at work, I've slowly slid my way through the set. Video hounds will be very pleased with this set. I only noted one real video flaw and that was during the final segment of She-Creature. And it was blink and you'll miss it.
As for disc content, centerpiece episode-wise and bonus-wise is The Saga of the Viking Women and Their Voyage to the Waters of the Great Sea Serpent (now that I've said the full title, let's never speak of it again). This episode is a blast, from the wacky waffle host segments to the hilarious riffing on a tepid but watchable movie. There's even a short that kind of compliments the movie oddly, as it's a short about steering women into "their place" paired up with a film about liberated Amazons. Absolutely fantastic episode. Special features starts out with an intro by Frank, but he doesn't really say a lot. It's fluff. Second is a 90-minute documentary on American International Pictures. If you dig their output, like I do, you'll find this worth every minute you spend watching it.
(I probably would have pointed this out before the next set was announced, but Roger Corman is interviewed for it, hinting that he was definitely getting involved with MST's DVDs)
Next up is the sequel War of the Colossal Beast, which is not as good as Amazing Colossal Man, both as a movie and as an episode. Sure, Mr. B is fun, but the movie doesn't have flavor and the riffing pretty much spent most of its fuel on the short. I'd rather have the original on DVD, but that damn Susan Hart (every point she was discussed in the AIP documentary made me sigh...GIVE ME MY AMAZING COLOSSAL MAN!). Extras see another non-informative intro by Frank and a trailer.
The better of Mike's episodes on this set (and a step up from Colossal Beast) is The Undead. Not only is the crew on their game, but the movie is actually not terrible. Sure, it's comparable to watching a crappy Junior High play, but it's entertaining enough. Rounding out the disc is a trailer, but no intro.
It all ends with the tedious She-Creature, which has its moments in the theater but a bummer of a movie weighing it down. The good news is that now we just need Riding with Death and we'll have every planet Mike blew up on DVD! There's also a trailer.
Feature documentary is aces, intros are below par. One great episode, one good, one middling, and one that struggles make for a set that has its ups and downs. But I'm somewhat more taken with the episodes here than I am on the next so I'm happy with it.
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