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Post by Udvarnoky on Nov 26, 2019 19:29:16 GMT -5
Shout! inked their deal with Netflix back in July 2016, so we're already three-and-a-half-years into whatever exclusivity window they agreed upon. Could it really be longer than that? I don't know that Joel is necessarily implying we're years away from the next relaunch, but if we are, it's worth considering that there could be reasons for that aside from some kind of Denver boot on Netflix's part. None of us really know the situation here beyond Netflix passing.
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Post by Diet Kolos on Nov 26, 2019 19:37:34 GMT -5
I believe its 2-3 years FROM the date of cancellation. Wouldn't make much sense the other way around.
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Post by davidbeegah on Nov 26, 2019 20:02:56 GMT -5
Not surprised at all. Way it goes I guess...
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Post by mylungswereaching on Nov 26, 2019 20:29:46 GMT -5
It's not as big a problem today as it would be in the past. In the old days shows started in September and with repeats went all year long. People who loved the show could watch it most every week, except when it was preempted. If a show wasn't shown every week people forgot about it because there was no alternative way to watch it if you didn't record it yourself once vcr's came around.
Now people aren't as likely to watch on a schedule. They're more used to watching the shows over a certain amount of time, maybe binge watching or maybe watching by the week for a few months. Either way there's months between the end of one season and the beginning of the next. The gap can be two or three years and people can rewatch the old episodes to catch up if they want to.
Netflix's recent pattern is to keep a show for 3 years. They cut the amount they pay each year. Netflix paid very little for the first year because it was already paid for. They paid less the second year. And I'm sure they offered so little for the third year that it couldn't be done for the money offered.
I think the problem with the show is all money. Joel appears to be a classic artistic perfectionist. In business school I was taught the closer you get to perfection, the more things cost. I.E. if 90% cost $1 million, getting to 91% could raise the cost to $1.2 million. Getting to 92% could cost $1.5 million. And you never get to 100% happy. You end up spending $1 million dollars to go from 99.1% to 99.2% of perfect. If you want to produce anything in the real world you have to set some sort of limit. Things can always be just a little better but is it worth going broke trying to make it just a little bit closer to perfect?
Joel hired a lot of very talented artistic people. They all wanted perfection. They could have got to 90% of their goal, and made a nice profit. But because they just had to be perfect, they spent most of their money long before they actually filmed anything. Then they had to rush through the filming in the quickest way possible.
Also, I don't believe that you have to have 10 times a many people working on something if you use union work, if you plan things out properly. You don't need to hire union workers to get the actors in the same room and practice the episode in front of a cheap camera over and over until you get the timing down. Then record the episode using union workers and have a second sound only recording to record the lines that didn't work out the first time.
Hopefully, if Joel wants to make more MST3k he steps back and changes how he does things. You just can't have gold plated everything and expect to remain under budget. People hate bean counters but they are absolutely necessary in the real world. They just shouldn't be the ones in charge. Someone needs to tell Joel that if he want's to rebuild the set for the third time he has to cut something else out. Someone has to keep track of how much they are spending while they are spending it.
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Post by dudehitscar on May 10, 2021 19:36:49 GMT -5
I would really like to see them ditch Netflix and get an app for all us cord cutters. Maybe have a minimal monthly charge. They can also do another Kickstarter to get the funds to start another season without Netflix and move forward. This man can see the future!!! wow. well done.
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Post by kracker on May 18, 2021 18:06:26 GMT -5
lol this is why i like boards. people can dig up all the epic predictions.
back when iMDB had boards for every movie, the board for the movie "Head of State" with Chris Rock had a thread "This would never happen" from 2004 that users continually kept alive to laugh at until the end of iMDB boards
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Post by slainmonkey on May 19, 2021 14:11:42 GMT -5
Honestly I miss the IMDb boards, it honestly would have been interesting to see what the reaction there would have been like to MST3K’s revival in general....oh well!
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Post by kracker on May 20, 2021 18:39:26 GMT -5
the iMDB boards were total trollholes, you'd get people calling Joel all sorts of nasty things just to get angry reactions out of everybody. There was a reason they went away, definitely would not have been able to survive in the climate today.
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Post by slainmonkey on May 20, 2021 19:20:16 GMT -5
I didn’t say the IMDB board were good, there were an unmonitored mess, no but there were interesting. What was interesting is that you would get a wide range of opinions on things, far beyond just the usual fan opinions. It was terribly run, but like I said, it was interesting!
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