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Post by crowschmo on Oct 2, 2020 11:48:53 GMT -5
And now the "It-was-all-a-hoax" POS POTUS has tested positive. (And First Lady). Ahem. Still think it's a hoax, Mr. President?
I'm torn. I really don't want to wish ill will on anyone. I certainly don't want to wish on anyone the sufferings I've read some people who have this have to go through. But, I don't want him to just recover with nothing more than the sniffles, either. I don't want him to say something like, "See, folks! It's nothing!", and have more people still not take this seriously. I want him to see first hand that this is not just something to wave away.
Yes, we have to get this country back on track (economically speaking), and yes we have to get back to living. But, I don't want more people to die because some just were so lackadaisical about it all.
Maybe this will be a turning point and put everyone on the same page and have everyone finally looking out for one another.
Mwahaha. I'm kidding myself, aren't I?
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Post by mylungswereaching on Oct 2, 2020 15:07:54 GMT -5
Trump being sick is evidence that RBG has argued her first case before god.
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Post by crowschmo on Oct 3, 2020 13:16:35 GMT -5
^^^^ You've heard of Montezuma's Revenge - this is Ginsburg's Revenge.
It's so nice that Trump gets all this free health care with experimental medicine that costs $10,000 a day and average schlubs have to decide between meds and rent/food/living.
Remember when he made fun of Hillary when she nearly passed out because she had, I think it was, pneumonia? I'm sure he'll whine about "evil leftists" if they dare mention he got a disease he was so cavalier about and never took those oh-so-inconvenient precautions against.
Hmm. Is he listening to doctors and scientists now? Or is he asking to be put under UV lights and to be injected with bleach? (All in jest, of course, ha-ha).
Arghhh. He just pisses me off so much. He's so nasty to everyone about everything, but if people give him a little back, all of a sudden it's inappropriate. Not that he's said anything yet, but I'm sure that will be his attitude as his past actions have indicated.
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Post by mylungswereaching on Oct 3, 2020 13:38:13 GMT -5
Now it turns out that Trump probably caught it at the get together to announce RBG's replacement. And at least 3 Republican senators caught it there as well. If 4 Senators get sick they won't have a quorum to vote in the replacement.
If they follow reasonable restrictions, they should be in isolation until 2 weeks after the last symptoms go away. So assuming they have mild symptoms, 1 to 2 weeks with symptoms and then 2 weeks after that before they can leave. So if they are reasonable, intelligent people (probably not) its at least 3 weeks before they can start the hearings if another Republican senator gets sick.
It would be unlikely that they would be able to appoint a new justice before the election if 4 senators catch Covid-19. And what does it say if the Republican's lose the Senate but vote in their candidate anyway after the election.
Unfortunately, the most realistic path to not replacing RBG until after the new Senate comes in is if at least 4 Republican Senators get seriously ill and cannot work for months.
One other point. John McCain's replacement resigned December 31, 2019. Their replacement is running in a special election. If the Republican wins, they will hold the seat until the end of John McCain's term. If the Democrat wins, they will take the seat on November 30th not in January because it is a special election for the remainder of John McCain's term not a regular election.
So it is possible that the Republicans will only need to lose 3 votes in the senate to not be able to fill RBGs seat by the end of November.
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Post by crowschmo on Oct 30, 2020 16:42:49 GMT -5
A lot of people advocating for "opening the country back up" mention the mental toll on people trying to get back on their feet what with losing jobs and not being able to pay bills or their rent, and bringing up the fact that the suicide rate has gone up.
I get that, and I get their worries, but, hey - a nurse committed suicide because she was so overwhelmed with all the death she was seeing. What about people committing suicide because their family members died or because they're feeling guilty about bringing the virus home to older members of their families and their feeling that their world is crumbling because of that? One doesn't know the personal stories of everyone committing suicide, so it could also be people dealing with the virus who are doing it, and not just people who have lost jobs and such.
I get that more people, overall, are coping with the economic burdens than have the virus or family members with it - at this time - but if we open up more things, than even more people will get the virus and the toll that takes, not just deaths, but economic burdens with healthcare costs and long-term health effects for those that "survive", so it could be even more suicides going on. People go bankrupt (even before the virus, this was a thing) when they run out of money because of healthcare costs, too, not just because of lost jobs because of the shut downs. And people can't work when they're too sick to work, too, not just because of shut downs.
We're seeing with places like schools and also overseas where things opened up and people got too comfortable or complacent and things had to shut down again. So, we're just prolonging the economic side of things if we have to keep up this start and stop and start and stop again method of dealing with it. If it was done properly to begin with, maybe the virus would have had no where to go and would have died out by now. But the way it's being done, the virus is just going to keep making the rounds. More healthcare workers dying, more cost and losses to businesses with employees dying or getting sick and having to stay home, or customers unable to patronize these businesses, etc. How does that help?
Again, I get the concern, I understand where these people are coming from, but with more deaths and overwhelming the hospitals and such, there's no guarantee the suicide rates would come down if things would just "open up." There would be a whole host of other problems to go along with everything else.
To illustrate this, we're having more surges, and they are in other countries, too. So, apparently opening up didn't help much, because more shut downs are becoming necessary and the whole damn thing starts again. Rinse, repeat.
This whole thing sucks ass and there are no easy answers. It's lose-lose-lose all around.
2020 has been a complete sh*t storm.
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Post by sol-survivor on Oct 30, 2020 18:42:49 GMT -5
Today I found out that my 84-year-old aunt, who lives in a nursing home, had a mild heart attack earlier this week. She was taken to a hospital in Madison, where she tested positive for COVID. Apparently no symptoms yet, but fingers crossed. She's the first person I know who had tested positive, and hopefully the last.
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Post by crowschmo on Oct 30, 2020 22:48:59 GMT -5
^^^^^^ Oh, dear. So sorry to hear that. Hope she gets better.
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Post by crowschmo on Nov 10, 2020 15:04:35 GMT -5
So, they found a mutated version in Denmark in minks? And they want to kill EVERY mink in their country? Did I hear that right? (I think they found it in minks in Utah, as well). Now we have to worry about it going around in other animals and what that impact has on us, also? The state of Connecticut, where I live, was doing pretty well, but now we have a spike in cases again like in a lot of other places. I'm guessing because the schools, (colleges, especially, maybe) and more social gathering like in restaurants and at parties and such. So, we had to shut down schools again in my city because too many teachers had to quarantine. But we should just "open up" like some people keep saying, still. I read (again, I think it was Utah) that parents didn't want to test their kids because that might lead to more positive results and shutting down schools again. Do they not want to know if their kids have it or not? What, just because you don't test, it doesn't exist? Um...you can't bitch and moan your way out of a pandemic. Nature works the way it works, it doesn't give a rat's ass about your inconveniences. "They" aren't doing anything to keep America down or the economy or whatever. Things get shut down to save lives and to not overwhelm the healthcare industry. This is happening world-wide and it's real and it's going to suck big-time for quite some time to come. I hope that vaccine that Pfizer has is going to help.
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Post by Torgo on Nov 22, 2020 13:20:38 GMT -5
My father passed away from Covid an hour ago.
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Post by jedicrippler on Nov 22, 2020 15:27:20 GMT -5
Ah damn, Torgo. I’m very sorry for your loss. 😔
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Post by mylungswereaching on Nov 22, 2020 16:04:33 GMT -5
I'm so sorry Torgo. My sympathies to you and your family.
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Post by crowschmo on Nov 22, 2020 16:50:16 GMT -5
I'm so sorry to hear that. I can't imagine what you must be going through. So sorry for your loss. I know no words are going to be of much help right now.
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Post by sol-survivor on Nov 22, 2020 17:18:18 GMT -5
That's horrible. All my sympathies.
On another note, my aunt I mentioned before is OK. One of my Dad's friends has since tested positive but she's OK. A kid living next door to us also tested positive. As far as I know he's OK as well. My Dad had to get tested before he had cataract surgery a couple weeks ago and he was negative, which I guess means I'm probably negative as well since we live in the same house.
Again, so sorry for your loss, Torgo.
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Post by Mod City on Nov 22, 2020 17:32:53 GMT -5
I'm so, so sorry, Torgo. Losing a parent is terrible, and I'm sure it must be even worse under such circumstances. Thinking of you and yours.
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Post by crowschmo on Nov 24, 2020 22:00:40 GMT -5
How are they testing the vaccines? How do they know so soon that they are "90% effective"?
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