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Post by pufncraft on Aug 28, 2021 15:53:05 GMT -5
During last night's livestream of Catalina Caper*, Matt McGinnis hinted that one of the season 13 episodes would feature "lots of diving."
I'm going to take a guess that it's Tentacles. I've never seen it but Shout Factory has the rights to it and I assume it features deep sea diving.
* Not a great episode. Even with the running commentary, I kept zoning out after the scene with Little Richard and the EXTREMELY attractive dancer in purple.It's not possible to judge an episode fairly when you're watching it with a bunch of people talking over the bunch of people who are talking over the movie. I've seen the regular episode a few times already. Just not a fan.
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Post by Mighty Jack on Aug 28, 2021 16:37:35 GMT -5
Never cared much for Catalina Caper (it fits into the "it's okay" category) but the livestreamers seem to enjoy it. And these folks were more low-key, so it was an easier watch for me. Jonah, God bless him, but he kind of annoys me on these, he's loud and irksome, like some kid starving for attention.
As for spoilers... I think I like knowing the movies, my need to know is stronger than my desire for surprise. So share Joel, share. (I wonder if that'll include a list of the shorts?)
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Post by Diet Kolos on Aug 28, 2021 20:01:25 GMT -5
Never cared much for Catalina Caper (it fits into the "it's okay" category) but the livestreamers seem to enjoy it. And these folks were more low-key, so it was an easier watch for me. Jonah, God bless him, but he kind of annoys me on these, he's loud and irksome, like some kid starving for attention. As for spoilers... I think I like knowing the movies, my need to know is stronger than my desire for surprise. So share Joel, share. (I wonder if that'll include a list of the shorts?) Now, the SHORTS...those were almost always a total surprise back in the old days.
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Post by BoB3K on Aug 30, 2021 11:26:48 GMT -5
Knowing all the movies is not fun. I watched all the original mst3k (new and repeats) in college and right out of college. The internet was barely born, and I was too busy to be reading TV Guides or watching a bunch of TV. 95% of all MST3Ks I saw when I turned on the TV at the allotted time and the show began. Watching the CC midnight reruns was the best. Also, after all the talk of doing this new season ep by ep, the updates sure sound like they're doing it assembly line again -- finding all the movies, writing all the eps, next will be shooting all the eps (in batches by each cast set). The plan might be to release them one at a time, but they're still making them in the less organic, less fun NuMST3K way.
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Post by Diet Kolos on Aug 30, 2021 12:52:38 GMT -5
Also, after all the talk of doing this new season ep by ep, the updates sure sound like they're doing it assembly line again -- finding all the movies, writing all the eps, next will be shooting all the eps (in batches by each cast set). The plan might be to release them one at a time, but they're still making them in the less organic, less fun NuMST3K way. Yes, I've noticed that as well. At this point it's an exercise in semantics as to what counts is making them "one at a time" vs "all at once". Because the process for Season 13 sounds like the process for Seasons 11 & 12, only in 3 pods by writing team and host crews. It's pretty clear they're writing all of the episodes months before they start shooting again like before, but I'm unsure if each of the 3 hosting crews are going to be shooting all of their respective host segments at once, or in 2 or 3 sessions. Because they're clearly scheduling these to be shot in-bulk again if they're writing the episodes all at once. I guess the question is if they're going to still be writing and/or shooting by the time the first episode premieres in November. Or if it's all going to be in the can by then. Because if it is effectively finished before the premiere, I'm not really sure I see any functional difference between what they're doing now and how they did things in Seasons 11 and 12.
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Post by BoB3K on Aug 30, 2021 13:58:49 GMT -5
Or if it's all going to be in the can by then. Because if it is effectively finished before the premiere, I'm not really sure I see any functional difference between what they're doing now and how they did things in Seasons 11 and 12. Probably not in the can, but I can see having everything filmed but then each ep is post-produced one at a time, with I guess possible reshoots or just ADRs as they post produce each one, and that will be the ongoing process as they are aired ep by ep.
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Post by kracker on Sept 3, 2021 21:02:52 GMT -5
I was skeptical about the advertised 'one-at-a-time' release schedule anyway due to the timeframe of when they would be released, it just doesnt line up for that. Either way, none of them are coming out until the Gizmoplex launch at the end of the year and it'll likely just be one episode being released. So if it results in them having all 13 episodes in the can this year without cutting any corners, which is certainly in their ability, there's no real avoidance. Its going to be different logistics than the '7 days to air' days for sure in this age. Guess what matters is they are able to work at the pace they feel works best for the show without any network heads this time.
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Post by BoB3K on Sept 5, 2021 11:41:01 GMT -5
From the newest update: Ugh. No.
I actually think I like Season 8 more than the average viewer, but no, don't. Just have standalone eps that I can pull up in any order and just watch a movie riffed with some fun skits about it and other random stuff.
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Post by Mighty Jack on Sept 5, 2021 16:44:25 GMT -5
Agreed, at least I got some laughs from the season 8 bits, - but the wedding stuff in season 12, the gauntlet (aside from the introduction with Max trying to take center stage), none of that worked for me. A running gag within an ep -The Mirror Universe, the bits in Diamondhead- an occasional callback (the junk drawer from season 2, referencing Frank's training), sure, but longer narrative sketches, I'm not a fan of those.
Now that I've said all of that, with 3 hosts adding another layer to the mythology, that might be why they are introducing a running thread through the season, there's a larger experiment at play so they need to address it, otherwise, it's just, hey there's Emily, out of the blue.
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Post by kracker on Sept 5, 2021 21:40:45 GMT -5
Yeah i think that's what they are going for, to make some sense out of the new multiple host model. Not a fan of the narrative stuff either. Especially when you don't rewatch these eps in order at all. I would introduce someone to the show with the Mac and Me episode and have to explain what's going on. When I first watched MST3K, the host segments fell flat with me, because it was episodes like The Brain That Wouldn't Die and Mitchell that needed a lot of context with what was going on.
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Post by Megalon on Sept 5, 2021 22:20:58 GMT -5
I like the narrative storylines, but I agree that the show has never done them well, and they are in some ways a barrier to entry for new viewers. Even as a long-time fan, I find it jarring sometimes when I go back to watch an old episode from the Sci-Fi years and suddenly realize that it forms part of a storyline. Usually that's a detriment to the episode overall.
If Joel & Co. think they can do a GOOD story arc, then I'm willing to give them another chance. But if they blow it this time, then I think it's time to put story arcs to rest.
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Post by Afgncaap5 on Sept 10, 2021 0:05:19 GMT -5
I'm in the opposite category, I think. I love the storylines and host segments that come from them, and the lore than can build from episode to episode even if at the end it's just a show and we shouldn't worry too much about such things. Different strokes, though
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Post by leeharveyosmond on Sept 10, 2021 11:39:02 GMT -5
it at least helped in season 8 that they were a fairly small crew of people who had worked on the show for years, with bill corbett being new but quickly fitting in and making crow his own. it ain't like that now.
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Post by Diet Kolos on Sept 14, 2021 15:07:11 GMT -5
Another update, more info. Movies are from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s & 2010s. 1 black & white.
They turned down a movie they had already licensed because the owner wouldn't let them edit it down. Apparently it was 14 minutes too long. Considering they're doing Gamera vs Jiger uncut at 83 minutes for nostalgia purposes, it makes one wonder what their ideal movie time is. I'm guessing its in the 60-65 minute range, +/-5 minutes.
Seems like a waste to throw out a movie you went to all the trouble they've described, that matches all the prerequisites...just to toss it over 14 minutes. When it would've premiered on a streaming service you own. So time limits aren't really a thing...
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Post by kracker on Sept 14, 2021 16:28:44 GMT -5
then they obviously had good reason, what if any part of those 14 mins were inappropriate, what if those 14 min were just too hard to riff and having those dead zones would have dragged the episode down, resulting in people complaining about it here and asking why didnt they just cut the movie down, what dummies. It's their judgement call to make as the ones who bear all the weight of the decision.
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