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Post by dudehitscar on Nov 27, 2023 22:44:34 GMT -5
I've read a LOT of comments in the past few days, so maybe I've missed it... But is anyone who is pro-NuMST and happy with how things have been produced and run over the past few years talking about how to get the fans who have walked away from supporting the show BACK? I'm exactly this person.. been making these points from the beginning of this campaign here AND the mst3k discourse forum.. I'm also not the only one. what are you talking about?
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Post by dudehitscar on Nov 27, 2023 22:46:17 GMT -5
The official Youtube channel uploaded a clip from an Emily episode that has a riff that's either chosen to be perfectly ironic, or it was just tone-deaf coincidence. It's at 3:43 in case my link doesn't start at the right spot. or there isn't any deeper meaning. seriously it's a 7 minute clip
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Post by monkeypretzel on Nov 27, 2023 22:56:56 GMT -5
It's more about the Discourse and Facebook fans who just want to lump everyone who isn't in total agreement with everything NuMST does as not fans and tells them to just leave the fandom. The Real Fans on Discourse sure have given you a hard time for bringing up valid points. I admire your persistence in trying to talk with them. I don't have that patience with brick walls.
Also, thank you for posting the Jim Vorel article there.
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Post by dudehitscar on Nov 27, 2023 23:08:35 GMT -5
It's more about the Discourse and Facebook fans who just want to lump everyone who isn't in total agreement with everything NuMST does as not fans and tells them to just leave the fandom. The Real Fans on Discourse sure have given you a hard time for bringing up valid points. I admire your persistence in trying to talk with them. I don't have that patience with brick walls. Also, thank you for posting the Jim Vorel article there. well hey you could help me out by stop posting there and tainting my opinions by having a well known dedicated 'opposition research' hater coming in and agreeing with me. too much to ask?
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Post by floatinginspace82 on Nov 28, 2023 1:05:03 GMT -5
The official Youtube channel uploaded a clip from an Emily episode that has a riff that's either chosen to be perfectly ironic, or it was just tone-deaf coincidence. It's at 3:43 in case my link doesn't start at the right spot. lol! I was just getting ready to make a post about that myself, I am currently watching that episode (I wanted to see what all the hubub was about and I like mexican "super hero" movies like this and El Santo stuff) it makes me wonder if it was intentional or out of sight out of mind. What's funny is that Emily's Crow is grating at first but after awhile you just start imagining Millhouse from the Simpsons and it feels better some how.
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Post by dudehitscar on Nov 28, 2023 1:09:29 GMT -5
The official Youtube channel uploaded a clip from an Emily episode that has a riff that's either chosen to be perfectly ironic, or it was just tone-deaf coincidence. It's at 3:43 in case my link doesn't start at the right spot. lol! I was just getting ready to make a post about that myself, I am currently watching that episode (I wanted to see what all the hubub was about and I like mexican "super hero" movies like this and El Santo stuff) it makes me wonder if it was intentional or out of sight out of mind. What's funny is that Emily's Crow is grating at first but after awhile you just start imagining Millhouse from the Simpsons and it feels better some how. Milhouse is my favorite character and simpsons was my all time favorite show growing up. It definitely doesn't make it better for me... it makes it painful. Not taking anything away from your experience but just sharing mine.
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Post by floatinginspace82 on Nov 28, 2023 1:24:28 GMT -5
lol! I was just getting ready to make a post about that myself, I am currently watching that episode (I wanted to see what all the hubub was about and I like mexican "super hero" movies like this and El Santo stuff) it makes me wonder if it was intentional or out of sight out of mind. What's funny is that Emily's Crow is grating at first but after awhile you just start imagining Millhouse from the Simpsons and it feels better some how. Milhouse is my favorite character and simpsons was my all time favorite show growing up. It definitely doesn't make it better for me... it makes it painful. Not taking anything away from your experience but just sharing mine. oh I wasn't saying it in a positive way, I was just saying it made it better to think it was millhouse lol.
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Post by dudehitscar on Nov 28, 2023 1:52:35 GMT -5
oh I wasn't saying it in a positive way, I was just saying it made it better to think it was millhouse lol. Can we get a legit shadowrama milhouse animation to put over emily's crow.. Maybe it would work for me better. lol
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Post by starschwar on Nov 28, 2023 2:01:48 GMT -5
Someone on another forum described the voice as "Milhouse doing a Marge impression" and I think that's exactly right.
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Post by floatinginspace82 on Nov 28, 2023 9:04:55 GMT -5
Someone on another forum described the voice as "Milhouse doing a Marge impression" and I think that's exactly right. thats actually pretty spot on, whats freaky is when millhouse crow switches to an all female voice do do a female centric riff it throws me off big time.
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Post by BoB3K on Nov 28, 2023 13:23:15 GMT -5
thats actually pretty spot on, whats freaky is when millhouse crow switches to an all female voice to do a female centric riff it throws me off big time. And that's the big point-- These aren't just puppets, they're comedy performers riffing. Riffing often involves doing voices as part of the riff. The normal riffing voice should be NORMAL. A lot of people point to early MST3K and to how Tom and especially original Crow where more cartoony voices, to which I would point out that THEN THEY CHANGED. And I would say that's a big reason why they changed -- not just cuz riffing for 90 minutes is easier in a natural voice, but when it's time to switch into Gregory Peck or falsetto lady, it comes across better, it's FUNNIER. MST3K isn't a kids puppet show, it's a comedy show.
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Post by Shark on Nov 28, 2023 13:46:47 GMT -5
Kelsey deserves better. She's a fine Crow. But I'll never stop thinking that if they'd have just been creative none of these voice concerns would have been as big a deal. I'm landing on them being uncreative because we saw what they did with the mads and clones - same old same old. (Though I'm sure lack of time played a part, and probably some weird edict that Tom and Crow MUST be in every scene.) They could have made a new robot for Kelsey. They could have had M. Waverly and Growler in the theater. They could have had gypsy in the theater. They even could have made Kelsey's Crow red and Conor's Tom gold.
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Post by BoB3K on Nov 28, 2023 13:51:22 GMT -5
Hey, do you guys know about Snoopy's brother Spike? (https://peanuts.fandom.com/wiki/Spike) (I use to love peanuts and snoopy when I was a wee lad) He's just like Snoopy, except he's not, and he has his own silly side-story archs.
Maybe Crow's long lost sister or female cousin came into town. But I would still want it voiced by a mostly natural sounding Kelsey.
As far as I know Kelsey is one of the funniest people on the planet, but I never will know because I can't watch that performance.
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Post by funkypleasance on Nov 28, 2023 16:07:48 GMT -5
MST3K Turkey Day Marathon 2023 | Host Segments www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvZ0L0Uf1Lgthis is sad and weird. Why would you put this up? All it does is emphasize how little effort was put into this thing. Either a lack of care or a lack of money. or both.
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Post by Diet Kolos on Nov 28, 2023 16:38:41 GMT -5
Yes, I would bury that where no one could find it.
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