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Post by nightfalcawk on Mar 28, 2004 10:30:51 GMT -5
The following statement is true: "This statement is false."
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Post by marytrobot on Mar 28, 2004 16:38:12 GMT -5
oh you want something to make you think in circles? here: lets say it's possible to time travel. A man records a song on the radio, say Beatles, Yesterday , for unknown reasons he builds a time machine and goes back in time, he sees the The Beatles before they make Yesterday, he plays the song to them. and returns to the future. Now who is the artist of the song?
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Post by nightfalcawk on Mar 28, 2004 16:51:40 GMT -5
oh you want something to make you think in circles? here: lets say it's possible to time travel. A man records a song on the radio, say Beatles, Yesterday , for unknown reasons he builds a time machine and goes back in time, he sees the The Beatles before they make Yesterday, he plays the song to them. and returns to the future. Now who is the artist of the song? Truly, time paradoxes are not allowed, only fulfillment of the past. The song is a temporal-transvese side-effect. Here's a biggie: There's a girl named Jane born in 1950 who grew up never knowing who her parents were. Later she falls in love with a drifter who gets her pregnant and disappears. Then when she has the baby, they find she has both male and female sex organs. To save her life, they turn her into a him. Later the baby is stolen from the hospital. He then meets a bartender who is captain of the Time Travel squad and allows her to travel back in time. He than meets a beautiful young woman and gets her pregnant. Then he goes 9 months ahead and steals the baby from the hospital and takes it to and orphanage in 1950. Then he goes back to the future and becomes a well respected bartender and leader of the Time Travel corps. BTW the baby is a girl.
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Post by Buddhist Kitten on Mar 28, 2004 18:11:11 GMT -5
oh you want something to make you think in circles? here: lets say it's possible to time travel. A man records a song on the radio, say Beatles, Yesterday , for unknown reasons he builds a time machine and goes back in time, he sees the The Beatles before they make Yesterday, he plays the song to them. and returns to the future. Now who is the artist of the song? The Beatles, for they played the song when time was right. Even though that man messed everything up, It was still them who made it, just in another time thing.
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Post by nightfalcawk on Mar 28, 2004 18:13:34 GMT -5
The Beatles, for they played the song when time was right. Even though that man messed everything up, It was still them who made it, just in another time thing. Incorrect, only fulfillment is allowed otherwise everyone would die.
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Post by Buddhist Kitten on Mar 28, 2004 18:13:58 GMT -5
All of these things is kinda like the movie 12 Monkeys, where Bruce Willis goes back in time, gets killed, and the young Bruce Willis sees it. It just goes over and over again.
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Post by Buddhist Kitten on Mar 28, 2004 18:14:59 GMT -5
Incorrect, only fulfillment is allowed otherwise everyone would die. What? Could we stop going Stephen Hawking and use logic?
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Post by Mr. Atari on Mar 28, 2004 22:57:48 GMT -5
The following statement is true: "This statement is false." This is one of my favorites: This is an absolutely true statement: "There is no such thing as absolute truth." or another one I've posted here before: "I refuse to tolerate intolerant people." #nosmileys
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Post by marytrobot on Mar 29, 2004 9:31:15 GMT -5
Truly, time paradoxes are not allowed, only fulfillment of the past. The song is a temporal-transvese side-effect. Here's a biggie: There's a girl named Jane born in 1950 who grew up never knowing who her parents were. Later she falls in love with a drifter who gets her pregnant and disappears. Then when she has the baby, they find she has both male and female sex organs. To save her life, they turn her into a him. Later the baby is stolen from the hospital. He then meets a bartender who is captain of the Time Travel squad and allows her to travel back in time. He than meets a beautiful young woman and gets her pregnant. Then he goes 9 months ahead and steals the baby from the hospital and takes it to and orphanage in 1950. Then he goes back to the future and becomes a well respected bartender and leader of the Time Travel corps. BTW the baby is a girl. soo he fathered himself??? or did he impragnate himself? Ah I hate these things, ok lets leave it at this, Time travel is Impossible, it is an idea and not a time, the only real time is now. There is now physical future nor physical past. there for non of it is real. and there for your nor my question apply. there, I just saved my mind from going in circles for 3 days.
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Post by marytrobot on Mar 29, 2004 9:36:01 GMT -5
now here's another odd statement it's opposite day! so if it was oppisite day that would mean that now it's not opposite day after the statement was spoken. you can't say "it's not opposite day" because then someone would say "you mean it is or it isnt?" and you would have to say "no" which would mean yes, but the person doesn't know this so they can't be part of the opposite day, and if you said "yes" you cancel it out making it a normal day... in short it's impossible to declar an Opposite day.
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Post by TomServo69 on Mar 29, 2004 15:42:47 GMT -5
This is one of my favorites: This is an absolutely true statement: "There is no such thing as absolute truth." or another one I've posted here before: "I refuse to tolerate intolerant people." You know, philosophy is a funny thing. Just the other day I was reading the Allegory of the Cave, idealized by Socrates. Anyone who has read this will know what I'm talking about. The story, while informative, leads to many questions. My main one: How the hell do they eat if they never see anything but shadow? Servo
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Post by nightfalcawk on Mar 29, 2004 15:46:26 GMT -5
now here's another odd statement it's opposite day! so if it was oppisite day that would mean that now it's not opposite day after the statement was spoken. you can't say "it's not opposite day" because then someone would say "you mean it is or it isnt?" and you would have to say "no" which would mean yes, but the person doesn't know this so they can't be part of the opposite day, and if you said "yes" you cancel it out making it a normal day... in short it's impossible to declar an Opposite day. Time travel is possible. We simply need to make a tranverseable wormhole and attach it to a spacecraft that orbits in near light velocities. This slows time down for it, but our time remains (about) the same. There is another type of time machine, but I won't get into that.
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Post by marytrobot on Mar 29, 2004 16:41:55 GMT -5
You know, philosophy is a funny thing. Just the other day I was reading the Allegory of the Cave, idealized by Socrates. Anyone who has read this will know what I'm talking about. The story, while informative, leads to many questions. My main one: How the hell do they eat if they never see anything but shadow? Servo the invisable people that give them their food, and they can only look forward.
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Post by TomServo69 on Mar 29, 2004 16:44:07 GMT -5
the invisable people that give them their food, and they can only look forward. I know, but, the whole point was that they were facing forward so they wouldn't know anything existed but what they saw in the shadows. That wasn't the point anyways, I was just being sarcastic and techical on a matter that can't be treated that way. Servo
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Post by marytrobot on Mar 29, 2004 17:01:24 GMT -5
I know, I was just being annoying... I'm good at that you know
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