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Post by uruseiranma on Apr 3, 2013 16:25:52 GMT -5
I was thinking about this the other day, because there have been several characters in MST3K films that have this issue: they cause problems, but never admit to what they do.
Examples:
'Overdrawn at the Memory Bank' - trapped within the computer, Fingel causes worldwide weather disasters, bankrupts a corporation, and in the end, gets the girl, and is never held responsible for his actions.
'The Beginning of the End' - Dr. Ed Wainwright seems to be responsible for the giant locusts that destroy a town and cause millions of dollars in damage to parts of Illinois...yet he is never questioned about this, gets the girl, and seemingly is hailed as a hero.
'The Projected Man' - Dr Chris Mitchel seems largely to blame for what happened to Dr. Paul Steiner, when he disturbs Sheila, and during Steiner's projection process...yet Chris and Dr Patrica Hill seem blandly oblivious to what they have done.
Any other characters that don't get the blame they rightfully deserve?
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Post by TheNewMads on Apr 4, 2013 8:20:00 GMT -5
I was just revisiting "Alien from LA," starring the lovely and not terribly talented Kathy Ireland. You know, those undergrounders had a pretty good gig going before she went down there and clumsily ruined everything for them.
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Post by Prime Minister Jim J. Bullock on Apr 4, 2013 8:43:12 GMT -5
Nick from Time Chasers. He steals a car,(it was a Yugo, granted) wrecks it and ruins someone's career, and ends up being the hero and is smug too. Also he foolishly sells his time travel software to a company that advertises on television late at night, without doing any research into the company. I just don't like the guy.
I agree about Fingal, when he was causing worldwide destruction, i was like, "We're supposed to be rooting for this jackass?" Not to mention the fact that he was punished for not doing his damn job.
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Post by uruseiranma on Apr 4, 2013 10:37:46 GMT -5
I agree about Fingal, when he was causing worldwide destruction, i was like, "We're supposed to be rooting for this jackass?" Not to mention the fact that he was punished for not doing his damn job. You are for today, my favorite Mst3k person for today  I just thought of another: that terrible family from "The Thing That Couldn't Die." I hated how greedy and inconsiderate they were to the daughter who kept telling them what they were doing were bad things/ideas, and yet they were all, 'just shut up things will be fine, little miss mental powers we do not understand.' Oh, and I know they're 'gods,' but those Puma Gods in 'Puma Man.' I don't care what Vadinyo spouts, those gods were downright lazy to not clean up after themselves and take that mask away from Cobras. Tony originally saw right through their laziness ('well why don't they give us a hand?'), but Vadinyo blindly followed them. |
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Post by Monophylos on Apr 4, 2013 16:07:49 GMT -5
'Overdrawn at the Memory Bank' - trapped within the computer, Fingel causes worldwide weather disasters, bankrupts a corporation, and in the end, gets the girl, and is never held responsible for his actions. How true! We're supposed to think he's rising up against The Man but instead he comes across like a slacker resentful he was caught out for goofing off on the job. A couple examples come to mind: Master Ninja I - Lee van Cleef demolishes a bar just to impress a sheriff's deputy who's been hassling him and is allowed to walk out. San Francisco International - Pernell Roberts effectively kidnaps a planeload of congressmen and threatens them but gets away with nothing more than a tongue-lashing. |
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Post by uruseiranma on Apr 4, 2013 16:26:09 GMT -5
Oh, and I forgot these two bozos:
In "Gorgo," the two guys who decide to capture Gorgo, and sell him to Dorkin's circus. It looks like they're going to get off scott-free, even though their bringing a large creature like that into the heart of London has resulted in millions of dollars of damage, and the supposed death of hundreds.
For that matter, can't they be considered to be kidnapping the little boy, since they don't turn around after finding he stowed away on board the ship?
Also, "Village of the Giants" is guilty of no punishments. After they grow, the giants break into a closed building, kidnap the Sheriff's daughter, cause property damage, etc...and after they are shrunk back to normal size, the Sheriff doesn't even chase them down as they run out of town!
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Post by Mike Flugennock on Apr 4, 2013 18:59:07 GMT -5
Well, seems some of my faves have already been covered, but let me just pore over my collection, here...
Let's see...
Well, in Attack Of The Giant Leeches, the game warden's girlfriend's dad tosses dynamite into the bayou against the express orders and threat of arrest by the game warden, and they end up letting him slide. Hell, not only that, but the game warden ends up joining in the dynamite-tossing festival. "We're a danger to ourselves and others...!"
And, how about that one scientist in Monster A Go-Go? He pumps the astronaut with twice as much "radiation repellent" as normal, the astronaut mutates and turns homicidal when he lands, and the scientist keeps the homicidal mutant astronaut in a friggin' closet at the lab while he injects him with his experimental antidote, and he never suffers any noticeable consequences for the mayhem which ensues. "I don't have a precision mind!" Cripes, you're a scientist, ya' friggin' dope.
Then, of course, we have Fugitive Alien I, in which Rocky still gets to go on the extra-super-crucial mission with his crew, even though he tried to kill Ken. With a forklift. Huzzah.
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Post by angilasman on Apr 4, 2013 20:36:12 GMT -5
In "Gorgo," the two guys who decide to capture Gorgo, and sell him to Dorkin's circus. It looks like they're going to get off scott-free, even though their bringing a large creature like that into the heart of London has resulted in millions of dollars of damage, and the supposed death of hundreds. I love the opening to Son of Kong where Denham and company are in a great deal of legal trouble for bringing Kong to NY in the previous film. |
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Post by uruseiranma on Apr 4, 2013 23:41:29 GMT -5
And, how about that one scientist in Monster A Go-Go? He pumps the astronaut with twice as much "radiation repellent" as normal, the astronaut mutates and turns homicidal when he lands, and the scientist keeps the homicidal mutant astronaut in a friggin' closet at the lab while he injects him with his experimental antidote, and he never suffers any noticeable consequences for the mayhem which ensues. "I don't have a precision mind!" Cripes, you're a scientist, ya' friggin' dope. Oh my God, how I hated that guy. The reasons he gave for not telling anyone made me just want to reach through the TV and smack him around. |
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Post by Monophylos on Apr 5, 2013 0:46:30 GMT -5
Then, of course, we have Fugitive Alien I, in which Rocky still gets to go on the extra-super-crucial mission with his crew, even though he tried to kill Ken. With a forklift. Huzzah. Rocky is pretty damn useless throughout the Fugitive Alien "movies". In the second one he actually shoots his captain and gets no real grief from it other than a bit of grumbling. I'm trying to remember if Rocky does anything other than make trouble. Presumably his role in the original series was more constructive. I suppose the "desert patrolmen" in The Beast of Yucca Flats might count. The movie fails to suggest that there are any consequences to gunning down a random citizen in the desert. But this is the Coleman Francis Universe, after all, a cruel and unforgiving place where the bad sleep well. |
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Post by dph on Apr 5, 2013 5:52:04 GMT -5
But this is the Coleman Francis Universe, after all, a cruel and unforgiving place where the bad sleep well. Kinda like Chicago? I'm not sure if this counts toward this thread, but it always bugs me in those movies where the white man goes into an area that he's never been (The Mole People) and just destroys everything. Not MST related, but Son of Kong also comes to mind that Denham and the Skipper go back to Skull Island and the island is destroyed because they take the treasure. Our friends in Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster never really get into trouble for stealing and destroying a yacht either. |
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Post by uruseiranma on Apr 5, 2013 12:03:26 GMT -5
I suppose the "desert patrolmen" in The Beast of Yucca Flats might count. The movie fails to suggest that there are any consequences to gunning down a random citizen in the desert. But this is the Coleman Francis Universe, after all, a cruel and unforgiving place where the bad sleep well. Oh yeah, that scene helps convince me that Coleman Francis was an angry, disturbed man. Though one can figure that those bored men shooting supposed bad guys in their plane, 'escaped being caught in the wheels of progress.' *Flag on the moon |
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Post by Monophylos on Apr 5, 2013 12:23:05 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this counts toward this thread, but it always bugs me in those movies where the white man goes into an area that he's never been (The Mole People) and just destroys everything. "We sure have done it: brought civilization to planet Nova. C'mon, let's go home." |
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Post by Crowfan on Apr 7, 2013 16:49:19 GMT -5
Droppo in Santa Claus Conquers The Martians. I guess he was comic relief, but I mean, really.
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Post by notundercovercop32 on Apr 7, 2013 19:41:38 GMT -5
I don't know if this counts but Fu Manchu freezes the earths oceans, kills some guy, does some other things I don't remember and his punishment... Nada. He escapes his watery prison and is given a bunch more sequels to kill again.
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