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Post by NardDog on Aug 17, 2008 14:22:14 GMT -5
regardless of genre and no lists of 12 etc. Be hard on yourself...also if it helps only include one Band per artist (example just the Beatles not Wings or the Plastic Ono band as well)
I'll update this for every one from time to time and leave a tally of the top 20 or so and how many votes they have at the time of the post
I don't know about all of you but this will be hard for me especially
...if you want to amend your list say so in a separate post but it will help if you quote it so I can do the appropriate tabulations
...I just thought it would be fun to see where the board as a whole stood on this...if you want to talk about whatever bands that are in your post feel free to but you don't have to
...anyway here goes mine...
1.The Beatles
2.Radiohead
3.Superdrag
4.Black Sabbath
5.System Of A Down
6.The Flaming Lips
7.Depeche Mode
8.Pink Floyd
9.Ben Folds/Ben Folds Five
10.Alice In Chains
that was tough so many I would love to include more but 10 is the limit...please do the same...it's easy to keep adding...also I won't include anything past your#10 in the official tally...have fun agonizing over your list!!! ;D
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Post by Mighty Jack on Aug 17, 2008 16:05:31 GMT -5
1. The Beatles
2. Bob Dylan
3. Jimi Hendrix
4. Simon and Garfunkle
5. Alice Cooper
6. XTC
7. Devo
8. Pixies
9. Aimee Mann
Now 10, that's going to be tough. Let me look at the usual subjects... Queen, the Monkees, Avril Lavigne, Flaming Lips... Mmm, can't do Weezer or The Muffs because they sunk hard after 2 brilliant albums. God, who am I forgetting.... Johnny Cash.
Oh damn it now I got it. Ramones or Nirvana. Jesus who do I chose? Lets see the Ramones had 5 classic LPs, Nirvana had 1 and a bunch I liked a lot so I guess that's it then. Sorry Kurt.
10 - Ramones
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Post by Trumpy's Magic Snout on Aug 17, 2008 20:31:12 GMT -5
Right the last time there was a thread like this I kept changing the list. Combine that with the fact that I'm exceptionally drunk right now and this list which is in no particular order, unless that's what you want then I'll put numbers next to them, and this will probably change: Richard D. James - He of the Aphex Twin, AFX, Caustic Window, Polygon Window etc. ad infinitum guises, oh and he might be The Tuss The Flaming Lips The Blue Nile The Cocteau Twins Teenage Fanclub AC/DC Tom Waits Nick Cave And the Bad Seeds Kraftwerk Radiohead Oh, and I'll talk about why i love them when I sober up, cos I know you all can't wait to find out why Kraftwerk are at least as important as The Beatles!  |
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Post by quinnmartin on Aug 18, 2008 10:46:15 GMT -5
Always an interesting topic...
1. The Beatles (Best Song - Penny Lane; Best Album - Revolver)
2. Guided by Voices (Best Song - Don't Stop Now; Best Album - Under the Bushes, Under the Stars)
3. Rolling Stones (Best Song - Gimme Shelter; Best Album - Sticky Fingers)
4. Whiskeytown (Best Song - Jacksonville Skyline; Best Album - Pneumonia)
5. Big Star (Best Song - Back of a Car; Best Album - Radio City)
6. Old 97's (Best Song - Timebomb; Best Album - Too Far to Care)
7. Beach Boys (Best Song - Surf's Up; Best Album - Pet Sounds)
8. Kinks (Best Song - Waterloo Sunset; Best Album - Something Else by the Kinks)
9. Replacements (Best Song - Left of the Dial; Best Album - Pleased to Meet Me)
10. Wilco (Best Song - A Magazine Called Sunset; Best Album - Summerteeth)
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Post by Chuck on Aug 18, 2008 20:38:55 GMT -5
Funny. I thought of The Duke Ellington Orchestra, the Chicago Symphony, the Dave Brubek Quartet, the Stan Kenton Orchestra.
Well, I don't know. I'd have to give that some serious thought.
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Post by Shep on Aug 21, 2008 21:45:07 GMT -5
The Beatles Joy Division The Jam The Smiths The Las The Stone Roses The Verve Oasis Radiohead and, of course, The Carrie Nations |
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Post by NardDog on Aug 22, 2008 17:06:45 GMT -5
Right the last time there was a thread like this I kept changing the list. Combine that with the fact that I'm exceptionally drunk right now and this list which is in no particular order, unless that's what you want then I'll put numbers next to them, and this will probably change: Richard D. James - He of the Aphex Twin, AFX, Caustic Window, Polygon Window etc. ad infinitum guises, oh and he might be The Tuss The Flaming Lips The Blue Nile The Cocteau Twins Teenage Fanclub AC/DC Tom Waits Nick Cave And the Bad Seeds Kraftwerk Radiohead Oh, and I'll talk about why i love them when I sober up, cos I know you all can't wait to find out why Kraftwerk are at least as important as The Beatles! Kraftwerk are innovative and all but I gotta hear this one...how they're as important as the Beatles...come on now...maybe to the section of music that is electronica...but how are they important to say AC/DC...one of your choices...I hope you're referring to the Bon Scott years because to me except for Back In Black I can't stand Brian Johnson. Anyway, no way Kraftwerk is important to AC/DC...and The Beatles might not be particularly important to them but I would venture to guess they have/had some influence on them nothing against Kraftwerk pioneers for sure but from my choices you can see there's an electronica band I like better (although Depeche Mode aren't considered electronica by some I think they are. They just expanded from the basic format) |
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Post by Trumpy's Magic Snout on Aug 22, 2008 22:05:32 GMT -5
I'll tackle AC/DC first. yes I mainly mean the Bon era but apart from some awful 80's albums brian's done a decent job. I don't envy him for who he had to follow. And of course Kraftwerk didn't influence the mighty Deec, just like they didn't influence Teenage Fanclub.
When I say Kraftwerk are,to me, and I stress this that it is a personal opinion that I don't find many to agree with, I mean their impact on music. Not only in Electronica, but the thing as a whole. They weren't the first to make electronic music, hell they didn't even start out as an electronic act themselves, but came to embrace it. Rather they made it into something that the mainstream could accept, Autobahn charted at number 3 in the British singles chart. Their music is pop music that happens to be created entirely by machines like synthesisers, sequencers and drum machines and shot through with a wicked sense of humour and an incredible artistic and experimental bent. It gives me heart that someone like Kraftwerk are as popular as they are.
Where my argument usually hits the stumbling block is when I say to my mates who only like music made by skinny white guys with guitars that virtually every piece of popular music through the Disco, hip-hop, Electro, House, Electronica to the insipid R n B and Pop that make up the charts now is influenced by them and the, I suppose, foundations they laid. Even most bands with guitars now look to pepper their music with electronic elements, because it sounds so "cutting edge". The problem is that as important as they are I'll admit myself, they've influenced some crap music.
But, that influence cannot be denied, as The Beatles influenced, and continue to influence, tons of crap music themselves. I think one of the main problems is that music made with guitars is seen somehow as real and emotional. I suppose you could say legitimate. Music made with keyboards and computers tends to be considered as either cold, inhuman or in the case of popular music as throwaway. Kraftwerk for me are just another group in the lineage of the groups who changed music by doing something special, not necessarily different as they all have the influences that come together, it's really what the influences are and how they use them that sets them apart. So I'd put Chuck Berry in that lineage with The Beatles, with Led Zeppelin, with Kraftwerk, with Brian Eno, the original punks, Phuture and so on.
I think in a lot of ways the problem is that it leads into another, far larger debate about how guitar music became the be all and end all for the vast majority of the population so that other forms of music get kind of written out of the history of music. You only need to look at attitudes towards popular genres that weren't rock throughout.
Oh and aye, Depeche Mode are totally considered electronic, and pretty important. I'm not personally a fan but they're another example of making that type of music acceptable to people who were possibly frightened by its strangeness. Radiohead are the same.
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Post by NardDog on Aug 22, 2008 22:35:55 GMT -5
I'll tackle AC/DC first. yes I mainly mean the Bon era but apart from some awful 80's albums brian's done a decent job. I don't envy him for who he had to follow. And of course Kraftwerk didn't influence the mighty Deec, just like they didn't influence Teenage Fanclub. When I say Kraftwerk are,to me, and I stress this that it is a personal opinion that I don't find many to agree with, I mean their impact on music. Not only in Electronica, but the thing as a whole. They weren't the first to make electronic music, hell they didn't even start out as an electronic act themselves, but came to embrace it. Rather they made it into something that the mainstream could accept, Autobahn charted at number 3 in the British singles chart. Their music is pop music that happens to be created entirely by machines like synthesisers, sequencers and drum machines and shot through with a wicked sense of humour and an incredible artistic and experimental bent. It gives me heart that someone like Kraftwerk are as popular as they are. Where my argument usually hits the stumbling block is when I say to my mates who only like music made by skinny white guys with guitars that virtually every piece of popular music through the Disco, hip-hop, Electro, House, Electronica to the insipid R n B and Pop that make up the charts now is influenced by them and the, I suppose, foundations they laid. Even most bands with guitars now look to pepper their music with electronic elements, because it sounds so "cutting edge". The problem is that as important as they are I'll admit myself, they've influenced some crap music. But, that influence cannot be denied, as The Beatles influenced, and continue to influence, tons of crap music themselves. I think one of the main problems is that music made with guitars is seen somehow as real and emotional. I suppose you could say legitimate. Music made with keyboards and computers tends to be considered as either cold, inhuman or in the case of popular music as throwaway. Kraftwerk for me are just another group in the lineage of the groups who changed music by doing something special, not necessarily different as they all have the influences that come together, it's really what the influences are and how they use them that sets them apart. So I'd put Chuck Berry in that lineage with The Beatles, with Led Zeppelin, with Kraftwerk, with Brian Eno, the original punks, Phuture and so on. I think in a lot of ways the problem is that it leads into another, far larger debate about how guitar music became the be all and end all for the vast majority of the population so that other forms of music get kind of written out of the history of music. You only need to look at attitudes towards popular genres that weren't rock throughout. Oh and aye, Depeche Mode are totally considered electronic, and pretty important. I'm not personally a fan but they're another example of making that type of music acceptable to people who were possibly frightened by its strangeness. Radiohead are the same. to me I wouldn't classify Radiohead as electronica...at least in the same way as Depeche Mode because Radiohead started as a guitar driven band who expanded into electronica whereas Depeche Mode did the opposite but I hear you on the general consensus that for the most part the music isn't valid or real unless there's a guitar involved somewhere...but there are some oddities that don't fit this statement like Ben Folds who doesn't have guitar in his music apart from a couple of songs but because he writes more or less traditional songs that gets overlooked whereas Kraftwerk and Depeche Mode etc. have a different approach....I guess why I like Depeche Mode more is because they take the soundscapes of electronica and write fully formed songs...there's only so many times I can listen to "I'm the operator of my pocket calculator" before it becomes redundant...but Kraftwerk are fun no doubt and anyone that messes with synthesisers in their music owes them a debt...I just think that the Beatles influence is much more all encompassing because if you're not influenced by them then you are reacting against them which is a form of influence...basically in one way or another all bands that came after the Beatles are influenced by the Beatles in some way |
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Post by Trumpy's Magic Snout on Aug 22, 2008 22:47:20 GMT -5
Definitely a fair point. As I said for me there's a lineage of really important people. Oh and if you want electronic soundscape Kraftwerk's Neon Lights will never fail you.
As for Radiohead I just meant they pulled experimental electronica into the mainstream when they embraced it. They'll always be a guitar band who have electronic leanings.
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Post by NardDog on Aug 22, 2008 23:08:07 GMT -5
Here's the Kraftwerk I have:
(all on vinyl by the way...aren't I ultra hip and cool...actually the reason for this is because that was the only way to find it in my local stores...I also like the vinyl experience but that's for another thread)
Trans Europe Express
Man Machine(my favorite)
Computer World
Electric Cafe
is Neon Lights different from these...if so can you tell me how...I've heard about Autobahn is that any good?
EDIT: or are you talking about the song(derrr) I knew that name sounded familiar
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Post by Trumpy's Magic Snout on Aug 22, 2008 23:15:34 GMT -5
Neon Lights is track five on Man Machine. Autobahn's the first electronic album, but there are still some remnants of what they were on the first three albums in there like flutes. It's worth picking up Minimum Maximum which was a live album from a few years back when they last toured. Some incredible versions on that. Probably my favourite of their albums actually. It's a kind of reworked best-of.
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Post by NardDog on Aug 22, 2008 23:20:12 GMT -5
yeah I feel like an idiot(refer to previous edit)...so I'll look for Minimum Maximum I guess... but apart from that is there a studio album I should be on the look out for?
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Post by Trumpy's Magic Snout on Aug 23, 2008 9:05:00 GMT -5
Man Machine, Computer World and Autobahn are probably my favourites and Trans-Europe Express is a very clever album that at times comes close to being their absolute best work. Outside of those The Mix is pointless, Kraftwerk 1 and 2 and Florian and Ralph are pretty basic, although good if you want to give it a go and Tour De France Soundtracks sounds a bit too polished. An early album under the name Organisation is also interesting, although alarmingly jazzy. Kraftwerk really havn't made too many albums.
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Post by Tor Johnson on Dec 4, 2008 10:16:44 GMT -5
1. The Rolling Stones
2. They Might Be Giants
3. The Who
4. AC/DC
5. ZZ Top
6. Zen For Primates
7. Jimi Hendrix
8. The Police
9. Tom Petty
10. Kid Rock
Other artist that came close to making the list are Led Zeppelin, John Mellencamp, Presidents Of The United States Of America, and Bowling For Soup
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