Torgo
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Post by Torgo on Apr 4, 2012 23:17:51 GMT -5
The angry fans agressivly viewing these episodes for tape hits need look no further than Diamond Head. There's a few there to for them to get bitchy about. Did that really need to be typed by an administrator here about fans who actually care about the quality of professionally produced retail products they buy to support what they enjoy? Yes. I could have but what fun would stuff like this be without a little ribbing? I love you guys and you know it.
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Post by georgewendt on Apr 8, 2012 23:21:05 GMT -5
Virtually every set has 4 new to me episodes, and this one was no different. Code name: Diamond Head is the stand-out for me as the funniest episode in the set. Plus I love Zulu/Hawaii Five-O. Quinn Martin produced some really great television, but that mini-doc feature about him was boooring.
King Dinosaur was my second most enjoyed ep, followed by Wild Horses and Fu Manchu. I feel like I would need to watch Fu Manchu a couple more times at least before I would begin to 'get' it, but I doubt that would help very much.
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Post by Jason One on Apr 13, 2012 19:34:33 GMT -5
Does anyone else think BBI did a terrible job mixing the audio on Castle of Fu Manchu and Last of the Wild Horses? The riffs are way louder than the movies. It's especially bad on Wild Horses. I hate having to turn the volume up really loud to hear the movie, only to be blasted by the riffing. (King Dinosaur has a good mix, though.)
I haven't watched Diamond Head yet, but I dread the mention of tape hits. Sorry, but I don't understand how any fan could disparage others for being concerned about these glitches. It takes me right out of the episode to see those kinds of problems.
How sad that so many MST master tapes have been allowed to deteriorate. I still wonder if there could be any better surviving master of The Dead Talk Back, or if the awful DVD is truly as good as we'll ever get.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2012 9:25:20 GMT -5
Just finished the set and I generally concur with everything. I had never seen "wild Horses" before but I thought by far it was the most hilarious. It also gave me a kind of "what if" feeling when I saw the mads do the riffing and I gotta say I really enjoyed it. It was nice hearing some new voices and as much as I love Kevin, sometimes he's a little over the top for me and it was a nice break having two riffers and hearing Frank do more.
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Post by pablum on Apr 16, 2012 21:21:41 GMT -5
Does anyone else think BBI did a terrible job mixing the audio on Castle of Fu Manchu and Last of the Wild Horses? The riffs are way louder than the movies. It's especially bad on Wild Horses. I hate having to turn the volume up really loud to hear the movie, only to be blasted by the riffing. (King Dinosaur has a good mix, though.) I've noticed many episodes like this. My solution is to play all my episodes with a "normalize" audio option on. It forces much of the lower volume material to be much more audible. Normalization audio functions are common on home theater equipment and computers so there's something for you to look into for this issue.
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Post by Mighty Jack on Apr 25, 2012 0:44:39 GMT -5
Watched Wild Horses, it has a few tape hits on it as well. I checked it against my home copy, specifically around the 50 minute+ mark and they were not on my homemade disc.
Funny how season 6 seems to get a lot of these (Yucca, Dead Talk, Bloodlust, Diamondhead, Horses... to name a few). I wonder why that is? You'd think the more recent seasons would be cleaner, but -aside from Lost Continent- the first 3 seasons have looked better on the tape hits than 6 has.
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Post by pablum on Apr 25, 2012 18:33:29 GMT -5
It could be that Joel has master tapes from episodes 101-512 and Jim Mallon has an entire set. So anything beyond episode 512 would only have one master copy and be subject to more errors without a backup on hand to use (Lost Continent excepted).
Or during the year of planning the movie, dealing with Universal/Gramercy, and publishing the ACEG the season 6 archive was given less attention and maybe put on cheaper tapes.
Just my speculation.
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Post by Treadwell on Apr 30, 2012 12:00:21 GMT -5
Wheather it was by choice or because they had to, I'm glad they cut out penn's voiceovers from the promos. These would come from BBI masters of what they produced for (and sent dubs to) CC. As such, they would never have had Penn on them, as CC would add him themselves.
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Post by Treadwell on Apr 30, 2012 12:03:21 GMT -5
As evidenced in the slates that CC inexplicably broadcast at the top of every show, MST was mastered on D1, which is a digital format. The tape hits we are seeing are Beta SP analog hits. So what BBI must be supplying to Rhino/Shout are Beta dubs of the digital masters--probably dubs made back in the day. This is why we're getting the hits, and it's a shame (and worth complaining about) because it's 100% avoidable.
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Post by notundercovercop32 on Apr 30, 2012 13:24:35 GMT -5
Wheather it was by choice or because they had to, I'm glad they cut out penn's voiceovers from the promos. These would come from BBI masters of what they produced for (and sent dubs to) CC. As such, they would never have had Penn on them, as CC would add him themselves. No the version they used is from the Scrapbook tape and that has the Penn naration on it. Remember none of the Bumpers on the DVD were supplied by BBI.
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Post by Treadwell on May 1, 2012 10:40:45 GMT -5
No the version they used is from the Scrapbook tape and that has the Penn naration on it. Remember none of the Bumpers on the DVD were supplied by BBI. Ah! (I should note I have not yet watched XXIII)
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Post by angilasman on May 1, 2012 11:39:18 GMT -5
I really liked the set.
Noticed a few tape hits, but when they're brief and inaudible it doesn't really matter to me. It's the ones in Beast of Yucca Flats that have the loud "POP" to them that really distract me. I'd gladly buy a replacement for that one.
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Post by wedestroymyths on May 2, 2012 20:26:23 GMT -5
As evidenced in the slates that CC inexplicably broadcast at the top of every show, MST was mastered on D1, which is a digital format. The tape hits we are seeing are Beta SP analog hits. So what BBI must be supplying to Rhino/Shout are Beta dubs of the digital masters--probably dubs made back in the day. This is why we're getting the hits, and it's a shame (and worth complaining about) because it's 100% avoidable. I'm not sure how you can be certain these are 100% avoidable. The Shout Factory folks have been pretty up front with their doing everything they can to provide the best copy qualities. Sure, tape hits suck, but if it comes down to having as many episodes of MST in Shout Factory quality with tape hits vs. Shout no longer producing episodes, I'd definitely take the first option.
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Post by Treadwell on May 3, 2012 11:19:17 GMT -5
It's avoidable because BBI could be providing them the original digital masters instead of 20-year old Beta SP dubs, that's why.
Also, there are more things Shout could be doing--some tape hits occur in the shadowrama seats, or in other areas where there are identical, clean frames on either end. Easily painted out. Also, some have occurred in show opens and bumpers, which could easily be swapped out for clean versions from other shows.
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Post by brandonakaxerxes on May 4, 2012 12:00:22 GMT -5
It's avoidable because BBI could be providing them the original digital masters instead of 20-year old Beta SP dubs, that's why. Also, there are more things Shout could be doing--some tape hits occur in the shadowrama seats, or in other areas where there are identical, clean frames on either end. Easily painted out. Also, some have occurred in show opens and bumpers, which could easily be swapped out for clean versions from other shows. They will not do that because scuring movie rights is expensive enough.
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