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Post by brandonakaxerxes on Jul 3, 2013 17:10:36 GMT -5
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Post by nomad on Jul 25, 2013 11:30:34 GMT -5
Would've been... interesting. I think Jerry's got the right attitude, probably could've pulled off a decent riffing. BUT, it would have been a completely different show.. no invention exchange, not even sure if there would've been the Bots. I can't imagine Jerry acting opposite a bunch of puppets. It would have ended his career before he even got started. And MST3K probably would have flopped. I don't think I could live in a world without "MST3K" AND "Seinfeld".
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Post by Monophylos on Jul 25, 2013 13:11:50 GMT -5
I have to admit, I could easily have lived in a world without "Seinfeld", as much as I enjoyed the show at times. Someone else would eventually have come along to fill the gap with some other show about a small group of unpleasant schmucks who are somehow best friends though united in mutual contempt. Somehow I think that an equivalent to MST3K would never have happened otherwise.
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Post by TheNewMads on Jul 25, 2013 13:28:44 GMT -5
I actually don't know about Seinfeld but I think Larry David would have been a terrific MST3k host. I'll even stir up some controversy: I think he could have done a better job than either Joel or Mike. I'm pretty much mancrushy on Larry David, the guy's a comic genius. And he's got that perfect air of feeling perpetually put-upon by petty torments, and being preoccupied with his own suffering, and yet being paradoxically indifferent to it, too, so I think he could totally nail that whole "I'm a prisoner in space and it really sucks but I also kinda don't mind it" mood that pervades MST3k.
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Post by TheNewMads on Jul 25, 2013 13:32:02 GMT -5
also, he's totally invention-exchange compliant:
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Post by Mod City on Jul 25, 2013 16:02:29 GMT -5
I actually don't know about Seinfeld but I think Larry David would have been a terrific MST3k host. I'll even stir up some controversy: I think he could have done a better job than either Joel or Mike. I'm pretty much mancrushy on Larry David, the guy's a comic genius. And he's got that perfect air of feeling perpetually put-upon by petty torments, and being preoccupied with his own suffering, and yet being paradoxically indifferent to it, too, so I think he could totally nail that whole "I'm a prisoner in space and it really sucks but I also kinda don't mind it" mood that pervades MST3k. Seinfeld would have been a passable host, but yeah, it would have been considerably different without Joel's personality there to guide it. And sorry, NewMads, but Larry David would have flat-out ruined the show for me. He's immensely unlikeable to me and fails to bring any charm to his own character. Funny writer, but he should stay behind the camera. I just don't get the appeal, but I'm pretty lame, so take that for what it's worth  |
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Post by TheNewMads on Jul 25, 2013 18:55:17 GMT -5
that's cool, you're not lame for not digging larry david, he's definitely not for every taste.
So i looked over the article, I wasn't exactly sure if Joel was actually saying he was trying to enlist Seinfeld for MST3k or not. He said he wanted him to be in a "sci-fi movie" he was making, seinfeld demurred but told joel to "go ahead and make that TV show." It's a bit imprecise in terms of what they were actually referring to.
Incidentally, don't miss that "coffee with comedians" video clip the interview links to, it's a fascinating watch and seinfeld and hodgson definitely have a lot of repoire, they genuinely do seem to go back a ways. The Mad Men meditation and its connection to the ketchup bottle that opens from the bottom is a particular highlight. That and Jerry's super-cool ride.
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Post by Mod City on Jul 25, 2013 20:52:16 GMT -5
Glad I didn't come off as trollish, NewMads. Definitely wasn't trying to be a smartass And you're right, David is an amazing comic mind, I just don't like seeing him act on camera. I don't know what it is. And yeah, Joel's episode of "Coffee" is very cool. It's weird seeing Joel, a relative unknown to most of the world outside MST3K fandom, and Seinfeld, one of the most recognizable comedians of the modern era hang out like the old friends they obviously are. |
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Post by TheNewMads on Jul 25, 2013 21:30:47 GMT -5
i'm rethinking the coffee vid. i think they're sorta talking past each other.
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Post by nomad on Jul 26, 2013 0:02:02 GMT -5
And yeah, Joel's episode of "Coffee" is very cool. It's weird seeing Joel, a relative unknown to most of the world outside MST3K fandom, and Seinfeld, one of the most recognizable comedians of the modern era hang out like the old friends they obviously are. Especially considering some of the comedy legends Jerry has had coffee with on that show! Don Rickles, Chris Rock, David Letterman, Mel Brooks, Carl Reiner just to name a few, as well as other more contemporary mainstream comedians like Seth Meyers, Sarah Silverman, Ricky Gervais. These are big names in comedy. So the fact that Jerry invited his old pal Joel is a huge honor. I mean if you've never seen MST3K then you most likely don't know who Joel is. It says a lot about Jerry to do that: He may be a big time star, but he's never too big to forget about his roots or turn his back on an old friend. |
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Post by reaperg on Sept 3, 2013 23:13:44 GMT -5
So, who would've shot Jerry into space -- Dr. Newman Forrester and TV's Soup Nazi?
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Post by marlowesyn on Sept 4, 2013 2:55:22 GMT -5
I'm in the same boat with you on Larry David. I was briefly a Seinfeld fan until I got to know the characters. Now I can't stand the show. Jerry I don't think would have would have made a good MST3K host at all IMO. Jerry is seems to be very ego driven. I don't think he would have put up with being upstaged by puppets. Which happened a lot on the show. Especially Crow. Whereas both Joel and Mike you could tell it was more than just a job to them. Seinfeld just doesn't have that spirit of fun that I think you need to make the show work. |
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Post by Prime Minister Jim J. Bullock on Oct 14, 2013 18:31:45 GMT -5
I'm in the same boat with you on Larry David. I was briefly a Seinfeld fan until I got to know the characters. Now I can't stand the show. Jerry I don't think would have would have made a good MST3K host at all IMO. Jerry is seems to be very ego driven. I don't think he would have put up with being upstaged by puppets. Which happened a lot on the show. Especially Crow. Whereas both Joel and Mike you could tell it was more than just a job to them. Seinfeld just doesn't have that spirit of fun that I think you need to make the show work. I don't think Seinfeld would have worked as a host either. Of course I really don't like him, so i way be a little biased, here. I don't think that Jerry would have played second fiddle to the robots, and he doesn't seem to have the playfulness that Mike and Joel do. Larry David, I don't know, he has a zany mind, so he could've fit in. |
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Post by Mike Flugennock on Oct 14, 2013 19:19:54 GMT -5
Sorry, but I was never really crazy about Seinfeld. Jerry, in character, seemed bland and unengaging, and so did Elaine. George and Kramer were fun for about ten minutes, but I got tired of them really quickly, especially Kramer.
Jerry Seinfeld would've been awful as host of MST3K. He somehow annoyed the hell out of me every moment he was on-screen in Seinfeld. He seems incapable of the kind of unassuming, quiet dignity and defiance in the face of insurmountable adversity that Joel (in character) has, and doesn't seem anywhere near capable of summoning up the kind of brilliance it took to create the Steve-O-Meter or the BGC-19. MST3K with Jerry Seinfeld would've been all about Jerry Seinfeld -- not the horrible situation he finds himself in, nor the Mads, or the Bots, or the movies.
Larry David would've been even worse. I'm sure he's a helluva writer, but whenever I saw him on Curb Your Enthusiasm, I couldn't believe he was supposed to be a sympathetic character; my first thought was always that he deserved whatever happened to him, the bitchy old bastard.
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Post by Monophylos on Oct 14, 2013 22:13:28 GMT -5
He somehow annoyed the hell out of me every moment he was on-screen in Seinfeld. He seems incapable of the kind of unassuming, quiet dignity and defiance in the face of insurmountable adversity that Joel (in character) has... This is an excellent point and, while it's possible I suppose that Jerry Seinfeld is a capable enough actor to play a different sort of character than he's usually done, judging from his TV work he's got completely the wrong temperament. Complaining incessantly about every little inconvenience, real or imaginary, isn't something I'd want from the host of MST3K. |
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