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Post by mrsphyllistorgo on Jul 8, 2014 16:35:11 GMT -5
I bought my husband the complete Batman TV series for his birthday and we've been having a ball watching it. The deliberate camp was pretty progressive for the day and of course the idea was to poke fun at the absurdities of Batman's world while still presenting him as a role model.
One thing we keep commenting on is the utter ridiculousness of the myriad villains' plans. Now you can argue that when dealing with Joker, the Penguin and their ilk, a certain amount of "wha?" is built into the package, but what gets us is the complete and utter lack of think-through involved in these derring dos. Nobody seems to plan ahead at all.
So to carry this over to MST, where it's a natural fit, who/what are your favorite "wait, what was step two again?" plans/plots of malfeasance? I'm nominating one brought up by uruseiranama over in the Ray Dennis Steckler thread, where he points out, quite reasonably, that there's really not a lot of long term sense in splashing zombie acid into rando drunk businessmen's faces, then keeping them in the back room until they organize and rebel. If you're suicidal there's lots easier ways to go about bringing the end to bear, certainly. And she doesn't seem to keep them around for slave labor or even to do tricks; they're just a collection of zombies. I guess she's like those hoarders that keep fifteen years worth of Time Magazine stacked around the living room because they might be valuable someday.
Everybody nominate your favorite and we'll all attend a nonstrip show!
Liz Taylor's Poison!
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Post by zombiewhacker on Jul 8, 2014 21:39:12 GMT -5
I never quite figured out Rat Fink's rationale in Wild Wild World Of Batwoman. Ostensibly he was trusted with guarding an "atomic hearing aid" that he secretly coveted for himself.
Yet his secret cloning device, unveiled in the movie's finale, presented infinitely far more potential for villainous michief. Despite this, Fink never seemed to give the cloning device a second thought.
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Post by Monophylos on Jul 9, 2014 9:29:58 GMT -5
My favorite idiotically evil plot in MST3K has to be the schoolroom vandalism caper in The Violent Years. I guess the notion that the Rooskies were bankrolling juvenile delinquency and unrest actually was taken a bit seriously during this time, but really are we supposed to believe that the Commies were going to pay big money for a few broken windows and ripped-up classroom flags? And just what was Paula thinking would happen when she started shooting at the cops?
Fu Manchu's plans in Castle of Fu Manchu seem a bit undeveloped. He threatens to freeze the world's oceans unless paid a ransom but then all mention of a ransom is dropped and at the end he's setting his plan into motion...just because, I guess. It doesn't work and everything blows up...also just because, I guess.
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Post by Mike Flugennock on Jul 9, 2014 20:24:10 GMT -5
The androids in The Human Duplicators -- supposedly the invincible soldiers and slaves of tomorrow -- with heads made out of china, which shatter when you breathe on them. Hell, it's only the housing for the most sensitive and important components of your android.
The acid-in-the-parachute murder scheme in Skydivers. Why? WHY? It was Crow, iirc, who perfectly summed up that whole murder plot in one riff: "...so, now that Harry's dead, we get... uh, what do we get?"
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Post by TheNewMads on Jul 10, 2014 13:26:52 GMT -5
The whole thing about shooting a temp into orbit and making him watch crap movies and monitor his brainwaves for the purposes of... well, whatever the purposes are, that one seems to need some work.
On the other hand, I've always admired Dr. Leopold's clarity of vision. He hates humans. He loves fish. Therefore, he's going to empower all the fish to kill all the humans. So be it resolved, meeting adjourned.
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Post by winddemon2 on Jul 12, 2014 1:16:59 GMT -5
Blood waters: so he decided to permanently make himself a mutant fish all in the name of taking out the guy who criticized his theories?!
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Post by Afgncaap5 on Jul 12, 2014 13:56:55 GMT -5
The whole thing about shooting a temp into orbit and making him watch crap movies and monitor his brainwaves for the purposes of... well, whatever the purposes are, that one seems to need some work. I always thought the goal was to find something so mind-crushingly bad that it would break a viewer's will to live and make them subject to various mind control techniques or other such things. He spelled it out a bit more in the movie than he does in most regular episodes. (Plus his plans seemed to be a bit more coherent after he moved to Grandville and started working for AeonCorp.) Speaking of the Movie, though, in an odd case of MST3K itself causing the confusion, I think that the aliens in This Island Earth's plan seems kind of aimless... in the version presented in the Movie. If all we have to go on is MST3K's take, a lot of their structure and methods don't make much sense in the greater scheme of things. I think the unedited movie makes it a bit more reasonable, though. |
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Post by TheNewMads on Jul 12, 2014 22:28:09 GMT -5
Blood waters: so he decided to permanently make himself a mutant fish all in the name of taking out the guy who criticized his theories?! dude, that's Dr. Leopold, and he was possibly the most focused villain in movie history! Had the whole 5-year plan, remembered everyone who'd ever slighted him and was going to exterminate them methodically one by one in a particular order, had his mate situation all planned out, was going to make all sea life rise up and destroy humanity, totally knew how he was going to do it, even had a to-do wheel with helpful illustrations. He literally visualized his goals. I mean, yes, his plan fell off the wagon almost immediately, but he sure as heck had one. |
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Post by TheNewMads on Jul 13, 2014 0:06:08 GMT -5
The whole thing about shooting a temp into orbit and making him watch crap movies and monitor his brainwaves for the purposes of... well, whatever the purposes are, that one seems to need some work. I always thought the goal was to find something so mind-crushingly bad that it would break a viewer's will to live and make them subject to various mind control techniques or other such things. He spelled it out a bit more in the movie than he does in most regular episodes. (Plus his plans seemed to be a bit more coherent after he moved to Grandville and started working for AeonCorp.) Speaking of the Movie, though, in an odd case of MST3K itself causing the confusion, I think that the aliens in This Island Earth's plan seems kind of aimless... in the version presented in the Movie. If all we have to go on is MST3K's take, a lot of their structure and methods don't make much sense in the greater scheme of things. I think the unedited movie makes it a bit more reasonable, though. this is actually one of MST3k's more egregious venal sins. They often edited movies so they made no sense, and then made jokes at the moviemakers' expense about how they made no sense. Because I'm always on the BBs' side (because I am a fanatic) I totally give them a pass on that, but if I was a moviemaker and they'd done that to me, I might go a little Joe-Don on 'em. Gnome Sayng? |
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Post by winddemon2 on Jul 13, 2014 1:30:54 GMT -5
Blood waters: so he decided to permanently make himself a mutant fish all in the name of taking out the guy who criticized his theories?! dude, that's Dr. Leopold, and he was possibly the most focused villain in movie history! Had the whole 5-year plan, remembered everyone who'd ever slighted him and was going to exterminate them methodically one by one in a particular order, had his mate situation all planned out, was going to make all sea life rise up and destroy humanity, totally knew how he was going to do it, even had a to-do wheel with helpful illustrations. He literally visualized his goals. I mean, yes, his plan fell off the wagon almost immediately, but he sure as heck had one. completely you are right mads, was thinking of the execute part of it. i was reminded of that one riff "am i really conquering the universe now?" |
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Post by TheNewMads on Jul 13, 2014 2:07:00 GMT -5
What's the one bit: The giant catfish is walking around and crow says for him, "And soon I will make all sea life rise up and .... blaaagh!" as the catfish falls over backward like a dumbass.
yeah, execution left something to be desired. Maybe he should have hired contractors.
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Post by milospinstripe on Jul 15, 2014 4:08:39 GMT -5
Not really an evil plot, but cruel and counterproductive none the less, when Crenshaw decides to hold the little creature hostage in The Legend of Boggy Creek 2. He lives all alone in the Texarkana swamp yet for some reason he thinks its a good idea to give the little creature's mother an excellent reason to hang around his shanty and harass him. Though he may have done this just to give him an excuse to "tend to his fires" each night.
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