yousonuva
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Post by yousonuva on Mar 12, 2004 16:27:50 GMT -5
Grapenuts are really grape testicles
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Post by lemminkimmen on Mar 12, 2004 16:42:12 GMT -5
Grapenuts are really grape testicles LOL!! Got me on that one yousonuva- ;D
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yousonuva
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I'm not insane but I am King of the Universe
Posts: 14,309
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Post by yousonuva on Mar 12, 2004 16:47:42 GMT -5
Hehe than- no wait. They really are testicles. Click your tv to Headline News.
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Post by losingmydignity on Mar 12, 2004 17:13:54 GMT -5
Like Mistyboy! Remember that guys! That was great! I don't remember. This person was before my time. I was thinking more along the lines of Forbin's Colossus Project.
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Mar 12, 2004 18:48:46 GMT -5
Ok you guys. I just got the last piece of information that I needed. This is big! This will blow the lid off every conspiracy. And that information is...THUMP (sound of dead body hitting ground)
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Post by lemminkimmen on Mar 12, 2004 20:20:10 GMT -5
phantom?
phantom!!!! speak to us boy!!!
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Post by Phantom Engineer on Mar 12, 2004 21:09:25 GMT -5
It's Ok. They left me for dead but -THUNK- Oh damn.....
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Post by Andrew on Apr 3, 2005 4:37:03 GMT -5
Who's really responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing? ." Well, no one has ever disputed that McVeigh and Nichols planned and carried out this bombing, including these two who both admitted it. Not that anyone needed them to. The biggest questions is Were there supplementing bombs in the building that actually caused the collapse? Yes. The photographic and mathematical evidence is presented in the August 2001 final report of the OKBIC who is holding a two day conference on this April 19 and 20. The congressmen, generals, and other experts who participated in this investigation will be there to try and lead our community toward resolution. The most important photographic evidence shown in the report is what is called brisance damage to the main supporting columns which collapsed. There are two types of damage that occur from an explosion: brisance and air blast. Brisance is the prime destuctive power of an explosive that extends to the approximate size of a crater. When explosive charges, like C4, are placed onto columns during a demolition the concrete in the immediate area of the explosive will be returned to it's constituent parts leaving a smooth granulated surface on the remaining concrete. This is what the photographs show. Air blast damage from an explosion simply works exactly like wind against a sail. A perfect example of this is the Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia in 1996. The truck bomb used was much more powerful, leaving a crater twice the size as Oklahoma, against a much weaker structure, an apartment complex. As a result of the explosion the entire facade, or curtain wall, was wiped completely off the face leaving the structure otherwise intact and standing but looking exactly like a doll's house. Brigadier general Benton K. Partin knew that something was wrong after the official story of Oklahoma City came out and, along with others, begged the federal government to conduct a proper investigation of the collapse and refute his claims. This never happened and the building was collapsed two weeks after rescue operations ended. I do not know why the FBI has covered this up. Could it have been a counter-terrorism sting operation that was manipulated for some type of rehearsal of a larger cover-up? I do not pretend to know. The evidence that the truck bomb alone could not have caused that damage must first be reconciled. That is exactly what we intend to do this April 19th. If The Final Report On The Bombing Of The Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building by the Oklahoma Bombing Invetigation Committee is not available at your local library then it can be easily ordered through an inter-library loan for free. You can also buy it for $25 at okcbombing.org
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Post by Mr. Atari on Apr 3, 2005 13:02:24 GMT -5
Wow. This was an oooold bump. But a good one.
I've heard theories (that I don't believe, but here they are) that McVeigh and Nichols were hired by the government. That Reno & Clinton were in deep because of the Waco incident and the Northwest militia snafu, and they needed to garner sympathy for the government and its military action against dissidents. But everything went wrong because the bombers blew up the wrong building. That there was a different government building across town that had been evacuated earlier that day. The government just wanted a "close call" by blowing up a vacant building, but instead contracted guys who either purposefully changed the plans or made a colossal mistake.
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Post by Andrew on Apr 3, 2005 13:43:35 GMT -5
Wow. This was an oooold bump. But a good one. I've heard theories (that I don't believe, but here they are) that McVeigh and Nichols were hired by the government. That Reno & Clinton were in deep because of the Waco incident and the Northwest militia snafu, and they needed to garner sympathy for the government and its military action against dissidents. But everything went wrong because the bombers blew up the wrong building. That there was a different government building across town that had been evacuated earlier that day. The government just wanted a "close call" by blowing up a vacant building, but instead contracted guys who either purposefully changed the plans or made a colossal mistake. If McVeigh and Nichols were hired by the government it would have only been by undercover agents organizing a sting operation. This would be why the FBI refuted and did not follow up on witnesses claiming that another man was with McVeigh in the Ryder truck. If that was an undercover agent then the FBI wouldn't say in order to protect his life and/or just his cover. The manner in which McVeigh was apprehended strongly points toward a sting operation. He was pulled over 90 minutes after the explosion in an unrelated traffic stop on the highway. Of course, this isn't proof, but it would have to be one of the strongest coincidences ever. This is just way too convenient to shrug off as random chance. I do not have the OKBIC report with me right now to verify that no other building was evacuated that morning. Although, I'm pretty sure what you are referring to is that the bomb squad was coincidentally only two blocks away at the time of the explosion for a training exercise, as confirmed by Capt. Heady of the OKC county sheriffs dept.
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